ILM Metal/other 'metal' subgenres 2010 POLL NOMINATIONS THREAD CLOSES Saturday 19 December - All are welcome.

was about to say Drudkh!

yeah you're right, boris/torche was a split 7"

Cave - Pure Moods

In what universe is this metal?

if people dont stop moaning jj & I will just remove the heavy rock bit and only allow bands who are listed at http://www.metal-archives.com
so quit moan and get nominating. Minds will not be changed.

I am totally ok with a tracks poll being a bit more loose with the term.
Who else apart from viceroy wants one?

I veto the Swans album it would win #1 for no other reason than lurkers and you know it.

"i veto the year's obviously best metal/heavy rock album because it would be sooo boring if the year's best album actually won a poll it qualifies for."

and hey, if a lurker can put together a coherent ballot with 14+ other albums, plus swans, then they can vote! why not?

well it's not the best, its not that fantastic at all.

then why would it win #1 in the poll? you think a bunch of ilx lurkers care enough about repping for swans in this poll that they'll flood ballots in?

i love cave but it aint going in. I think I'll take out wildildlife too, i ordered that record but i dont think it belongs here.

so as it stands list looks like

1349 - Demonoir
Across Tundras - Old World Wanderer
Agalloch - Marrow of the Spirit
Alcest - Écailles De Lune
An Autumn for Crippled Children - Lost
Arabrot - Revenge
Armored Saint – La Raza
Arsis - Starve for the Devil
Atheist - Jupiter
Atlantean Kodex - The Golden Bough
Barn Owl - Ancestral Star
Bison B.C. - Dark Ages
Black Breath - Heavy Breathing
Black Sun - Twilight Of The Gods
Black Tusk - Taste The Sin
Blind Guardian - at the Edge of Time
Boris - Variations
Boris & Ian Astbury - BXI
Burzum - Belus
Castevet - Mounds of Ash
Cathedral - The Guessing Game
Celeste - Morte(s) Nee(s)
Celestiial - Where Life Springs Eternal
Christian Mistress - Agony & Opium
Coffinworm - When All Became None
Coliseum - House With a Curse
Conan - Horseback Battle Hammer
Cough - Ritual Abuse
Crystal Viper - Legends
Danzig - Deth Red Sabaoth
Darkblack - Midnight Wraith
Darkthrone - Circle the Wagons
Daughters - S/T
Dawnbringer - Nucleus
Death Angel - Relentless Retribution
Deathspell Omega - Paracletus
Decrepit Birth - Polarity
Deftones - Diamond Eyes
Dio - At Donington UK: Live 1983 & 1987
Double Negative - Daydreamnation
Dråpsnatt - Hymner till undergången
Drudkh - Handful of Stars
Ea - Au Ellai
Early Graves - Goner
Eibon - Entering Darkness
Electric Wizard - Black Masses
Embryonic Devourment - Vivid Interpretations of the Void
Enslaved - Axioma Ethica Odini
Envy - Recitation
Exodus - Exhibit B: The Human Condition
Exodus – Exhibit B: The Human Condition
Father Befouled - Morbid Destitution of Covenant
Fear Factory - Mechanize
Flesh Consumed - Ecliptic Dimensions of Suffering
Furze - Reaper Subconscious Guide
Ghost - Opus Eponymous
Gnaw Their Tongues - L'Arrivée De La Terne Mort Triomphante
Gozu - Locust Season
Grand Magus - Hammer Of The North
Hail of Bullets - On Divine Winds
Halford - Made of Metal
Harvey Milk - A Small Turn Of Human Kindness
Hey Colossus & The Van Halen Time Capsule - Eurogrumble vol 1
High On Fire - Snakes For The Divine
Hooded Menace - Never Cross The Dead
Horseback - The Invisible Mountain
Humanfly - Darker Later
Ihsahn - After
Immolation- Majesty and Decay
In Mourning - Monolith
Integrity- The Blackest Curse
Intronaut - Valley of Smoke
Iron Maiden - The Final Frontier
Jesu - Heart Ache & Dethroned
Jucifer - Throned in Blood
Kayo Dot - Coyote
Kill the Client - Set for Extinction
Killing Joke - Absolute Dissent
Knut - Wonder
Kongh - Shadows Of The Shapeless
Krieg - The Isolationist
Kvelertak - Kvelertak
Kylesa - Spiral Shadow
Lair of the Minotaur - Evil Power
Lantlôs - .neon
Le Kraken - Exalt
Les Discrets - Septembre Et Ses Dernieres Pensees
Ludicra - The Tenant
Mael Mordha - Manannan
Magnus Pelander - Magnus Pelander EP
Mar De Grises - Stream Inwards
Mares Of Thrace - The Moulting
Master Musicians Of Bukkake - Totem Two
Melechesh - Epigenesis
Melvins - The Bride Screamed Murder
Mob Rules - The Donor
Monster Magnet - Mastermind
Motorpsycho - Heavy Metal Fruit
Murmuure - Murmuure
Nachtmystium - Addicts: Black Meddle Part II
Nadja - Under the Jaguar Sun
Nails - Unsilent Death
Nails - Unsilent Death
Negura Bunget - Vîrstele Pamîntului
Negură Bunget - Vîrstele pămîntului
Neurosis - Live at Roadburn 2007
October Tide - A Thin Shell
Opeth - Live Concert At The Royal Albert Hall
Orphaned Land - The Never Ending Way of ORwarriOR
Ov Hell - The Underworld Regime
Ozzy Osbourne - Scream
Pathfinder - Beyond the Space, Beyond the Time
PIVIXKI - Gravissima
Ratt - Infestation
Retro Grave - Again
Rosetta - A Determinism of Morality
Rotting Christ – AEALO
Sahg - III
Sailors With Wax Wings - Sailors With Wax Wings
Salome - Terminal
Samsara Blues Experiment - Long Distance Trip
Serpentina Satelite - Mecanica Celeste
Shining - Blackjazz
Sigh - Scenes from Hell
Slough Feg - Animal Spirits
Solace - A.D.
Solefald - Norrøn Livskunst
Spitit Descent - Doominion
Stargazer - A Great Work Of Ages
Suma - Ashes
Sungrazer - Sungrazer
Sweet Cobra - Mercy
Tarja Turunen - What Lies Beneath
The Austerity Program - Backsliders and Apostates Will Burn
The Body - All The Waters Of The Earth Turn To Blood
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Option Paralysis
The Flight Of Sleipnir - Lore
The Howling Wind - Into The Cryosphere
The Ocean - Anthropocentric
The Ocean - Heliocentric
The Red Sparowes - The Fear Is Excruciating
The Sword - Warp Riders
Thou - Summit
Torche - Songs for Singles
Trees - Freed Of This Flesh
Triptykon - Eparistera Daimones
Triptykon - Shatter
Twilight - Monument To Time End
U.S. Christmas - Run Thick In The Night
U.S. Christmas/Minsk/Harvestman - Hawkwind Triad
Ufomammut - Eve
Ultralyd - Inertiadrome
Unearthly Trance - V
Voltax - Fugitive State of Mind
Watain - Lawless Darkness
White Hills - White Hills
Wino - Adrift
Withered - Dualitas
Wolf People - Steeple
Wormrot - Abuse
Yakuza - Of Seismic Consequence
Year Of No Light - Ausserwelt
Zoroaster - Matador

Any complaints about albums please say so, as obviously I am not familiar with all of them.

incase you missed this

if people dont stop moaning jj & I will just remove the heavy rock bit and only allow bands who are listed at http://www.metal-archives.com
so quit moan and get nominating. Minds will not be changed.

Henry is adamant it doesn't qualify. You dont want him to get angry do you?

I have a problem with the "heavy rock" designation for stuff like this. I mean, it's just there so we can include stoner rock and stuff like that, not things that aren't metal but are rock and heavy in a non-metal way.

I'm vetoing Killing Joke, simply because I don't want that wonderful album sullied by this ego-driven clusterfuck of a poll.

okay okay. can we change the poll title, then?

ILM Metal/Heavy Rock & other 'metal' subgenres 2010 POLL NOMINATIONS THREAD CLOSES 31/12 - All are welcome, as long as you vote for albums that we arbitrarily approve them. Oh, and don't worry, one of the year's best albums won't win because we've eliminated it from nominations before we even vote! ISN'T THIS FUN YOU GUYS

lol @ vetoing killing joke

So the Jeff Beck album probably doesn't count either, huh?

jeff otm

i'd like to disqualify all the albums i don't personally enjoy from this poll before voting begins, so people can only vote for albums i like. i'll post the list of approved albums after i decide which of my favorites i'd like people to rank in their ballots. brb

lol yes!

Herman, you know I love you. You're a great part of the ILM family, but you doom your own polls time and time again by being so exclusionary and, in turn, making people angry before voting even begins. I expect the countdown will be epic, though, so I'll tune in.

Wilildlife is as heavy as Torche is nowadays.

I don't get why we've included Jesu or Sunn o)))))))))))) or Om in years past but not Swans this year. None of them is approaching heaviness from a metal viewpoint, no matter what they say or what actual metal stuff various players in those bands have done or continue to do.

hey FOUR OTHER GUYS vetoed it, ok?

And way more than four want it eligible.

i bet i can find four guys who agree it should be in & would vote for it

lol xp

Karma to Burn - Appalachian Incantation
Sahara Surfers - Spacetrip on a Paper Plane
Dead Meadow - Three Kings
Hansel - Never Say Die
Stone Sour - Audio Secrecy
Across Tundras - Old World Wanderer

And Killing Joke aren't metal either. Even if Phil puts them on a year end metal list.

wait a min. stone sour??? are you markers?

Skullflower should totally be on there btw -- shit is waaaayyyy heavier than Sunn O))) even

It shouldn't be shocking that a metal/"heavy rock" poll is exclusionary. That's the point. Taylor Swift and Flying Lotus are also excluded, along with lots of other stuff. It'll be more fun if you just quit bitching and let it go.

I've not heard the newest skullflower so i will include them for now.

lol @ having stone sour nominated, but excluding several of the year's great albums

ez you want the wildildlife put back up then?

I'm not shocked, but I think it's hilarious that people can draw this imaginary line somewhere that's not exactly static. Like I said upthread, it's not like anyone's coming in here nominating Rihanna.

I don't have a problem with wildildlife. And if people have a problem with Killing Joke, we can take them off.

anyway i'll come back when i've cooled down a bit. this is ridiculous, we should've let the poll be run either without a nominations list, or without a couple arrogant vetoes spoiling a good number of voters' ballots in advance.

never had such a strict nominations process in 2008/09 btw! i think several of you are getting crankier w/ age

some of those noms were not-so-subtle digs, obv.

btw i'd like to nominate

Rihanna - Loud

k thx

i <3 u, ilxor

ez you want the wildildlife put back up then?

Probably not going to vote for and I doubt anyone else would. Just had it on my list of heavy stuff I liked this year.

There's nothing "arrogant" about my veto -- Swans are postpunk. Punk is not metal(or what is meant by heavy rock here), and postpunk isn't metal, even if there is metal crossover with both, and even if there is some heaviness involved.

Swans were postpunk in 1985, when being postpunk was still a concern. In 2010, they're Swans. No qualification necessary.

everything in this poll is post-punk -- punk happened in the '70s, this is 2010

Okay, if someone is going to nominate the Ozzy album, I'm going to one up it and nominate a far better album by a rock survivor:

Rob Zombie - Hellbilly Deluxe 2

Then we can have a Swans year-end poll and they will win.

zzzzzzzz

Zombi was nominated last year

and look at the complaints it got (and marnie stern the year before)

More stuff that should be DQ'd (Even if I nominated it) according to the nebulous criteria of the day:

Across Tundras - Old World Wanderer - sorry, Crazy Horse isn't metal
Boris & Ian Astbury - BXI - ha ha ha you kid, right?
Celestiial - Where Life Springs Eternal - a rough night in the woods isn't heavy, dude.
Danzig - Deth Red Sabaoth - cat litter is not credible
Killing Joke - Absolute Dissent - Goth
Ratt - Infestation - glam
Torche - Songs for Singles - I like Helmet too, but no
U.S. Christmas/Minsk/Harvestman - Hawkwind Triad - Various Artists, automatic disqualification
Wino - Adrift - Wino is metal, this is not
Wolf People - Steeple - Wolf in the name - automatic veto
Yakuza - Of Seismic Consequence - jazz-skronk

Zombi wasn't just nominated, it placed pretty damn high. Marnie didn't place, did it?

Wolf in the name - automatic veto

I guess I should be thankful Wolves in the Throne Room didn't have an album this out this year.

There goes my Wolf Parade dream

. Marnie didn't place, did it?

it did