2010 Magazine's Albums Of The Year Thread For Posting Lists and Discussion

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Re: The Roots. I meant more that it's a terrible fucking record as is Black Keys - especially if it's being chosen because of a demographic. The same percentage of our readers hate Salem as people here do. What's the point of chosing a list by second guessing what your readers like?

I'm just traumatized because of the number of tranquilizers I took at ATP. My butt will be back to normal tomorrow.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Sorry, but that Roots record is by no means "terrible".

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

All the indie-baiting songs that got the record buzz are pretty terrible, but the rest of the record is really good.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Roots is the nuts. Ok maybe the second worst Roots records but its like picking yr favourite child when all ten of them are AWESOME (plus the tipping point child.)

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

drugs are bad, mmmkay?

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I agree with you today.

Does everyone like The Roots then? You really do learn something new every day.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

me != everyone.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

they are next up on my 'band i should stop forgetting exist' list

modrić in paradise (blueski), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

but yeah they are the most consistent musicians of the past twenty years and people who don't like them or ?uestlove* are savages.

*in part responsible for two of the best two records of the past decade, voodoo and new amerykah

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

Not to drag out another hoary old trope, but I often wonder how many people that hate the Roots really just hate the cult surrounding them. I mean, hate on some of the cring-worthy lyrics all you want, but these guys are astonishing musicians when they want to be.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

From what I can see 2010 has had no more unjustly overlooked record so far than Nina Nastasia's sublime 'Outlaster', which hasn't appeared anywhere at all yet.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

Bit too smooth, wholesome and sophisticated for me... although I do still have about three albums by them and I agree with you about New Amerykah.

(In fact I don't think it's terrible at all but it didn't really stand out for me.)

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

Sorry XP.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

album i like not appearing itt: Delorean

modrić in paradise (blueski), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

What's wrong with a rap band being sophisticated? /outright trolling

Also listen to Do You Want More???!?!? or Game Theory or Rising Down and you won't be thinking "smooth" or "wholesome".

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

From what I can see 2010 has had no more unjustly overlooked record so far than Nina Nastasia's sublime 'Outlaster', which hasn't appeared anywhere at all yet.

yeah surprised at this - though having said that, while i fucking love the album, it's more "bobbing around the lower reaches of my top 20" than a show-in for any ballot i put together

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

smooth wholesome & sophisticated (esp sophisticated) are the best things abt the roots ... weaknesses are pretty much black thought's lyrical stylings imo

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

the sade and erykah albums haven't appeared on (m)any lists have they?

;_;

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah surprised at this - though having said that, while i fucking love the album, it's more "bobbing around the lower reaches of my top 20" than a show-in for any ballot i put together

It's top three for me easily, so many surprises in there.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it at all but it's something that runs through most of my taste in music (admittedly with plenty of exceptions).

I guess I like the idea of a genre when it's still rough neck and like it less when it gets a make over for bars and expensive clubs etc. I felt the same way about jungle vs. intelligent drum and bass. I'm not really down with the Boomkat aesthetic with dance music for deep listening by the cognoscenti either. It's just a personal preference. In metal terms, it's what makes me like Slayer over Steve Vai or what have you.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

See now I don't hear "bars and expensive clubs etc." at all in the Roots. Maybe its because they are the only famous hiphop band that they have that appearance? And cos they are a telly band? Something like Rising Down is dirty and noisy, much like that Waka was (in totally different ways obv).

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

I haven't had a TV for years and they're not that famous in the UK, so I don't know where this has come from.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah convos about the Roots like this always tend to get caught up more in their image and reputation than what their records actually sound like. that said, How I Got Over runs counter to what people expect of them less than any of their last few albums have.

Local Hardman (some dude), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

I guess I like the idea of a genre when it's still rough neck and like it less when it gets a make over for bars and expensive clubs etc. I felt the same way about jungle vs. intelligent drum and bass. I'm not really down with the Boomkat aesthetic with dance music for deep listening by the cognoscenti either. It's just a personal preference. In metal terms, it's what makes me like Slayer over Steve Vai or what have you.

― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, December 7, 2010 11:31 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so where is flockaveli on your list

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

Rolling Stone singles

50. Ke$ha "We R Who We R"
49. Elizabeth Cook "El Camino"
48. Das Racist "hahahaha jk?"
47. Kid Rock "Born Free"
46. MGMT "Congratulations"
45. The Rolling Stones "Plundered My Soul"
44. Neil Young "Love and War"
43. B.o.B. feat. Bruno Mars "Nothing on You"
42. Surfer Blood "Floating Vibes"
41. Junip "In Every Direction"
40. Kanye West "Power"
39. The Gaslight Anthem "The Diamond Church Street Choir"
38. Spoon "The Mystery Zone"
37. Lloyd Banks feat. Juelz Santana "Beamer, Benz, or Bentley"
36. Drake feat. Nicki Minaj "Up All Night"
35. Massive Attack feat. Hope Sandoval "Paradise Circus"
34. Gorillaz feat. Mos Def and Bobby Womack "Stylo"
33. Wavves "Post Acid"
32. Die Antwoord "Enter the Ninja"
31. Gil Scott-Heron "I'm New Here"
30. Jakob Dylan "Nothing but the Whole Wide World"
29. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers "The Trip to Pirate's Cove"
28. Band of Horses "Laredo"
27. The National "Bloodbuzz Ohio"
26. Robyn "Dancing on My Own"
25. Nicki Minaj "Did It On'em"
24. Eminem "Not Afraid"
23. Jamey Johnson "Macon"
22. Rick Ross feat. Styles P "B.M.F. (Blowin' Money Fast)"
21. Sleigh Bells "Infinity Guitars"
20. Best Coast "Boyfriend"
19. The New Pornographers "Your Hands (Together)"
18. Jenny and Johnny "Scissor Runner"
17. LCD Soundsystem "I Can Change"
16. Cold War Kids "Coffee Spoon"
15. Drake "Over"
14. Big Boi feat. Cutty "Shutterbugg"
13. The Dead Weather "Hustle and Cuss"
12. Mark Ronson and the Business International feat. Q-Tip and MNDR "Bang Bang Bang"
11. The Black Keys "Everlasting Light"
10. Kanye West feat. Jay-Z, Rick Ross, Nicki Minaj and Bon Iver "Monster"
9. Broken Bells "The Ghost Inside"
8. Janelle Monáe feat. Big Boi "Tightrope"
7. Vampire Weekend "White Sky"
6. Mavis Staples "You Are Not Alone"
5. Arcade Fire "We Used to Wait"
4. Katy Perry "Teenage Dream"
3. Sade "Soldier of Love"
2. Cee Lo Green "Fuck You"
1. Kanye West feat. Pusha T "Runaway"

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

Top ten RS singles surprisingly low on white people.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

3. Sade "Soldier of Love"

YES M8 (even though it was technically an '09 single but never mind) (let's ignore what's above it too)

surprised they had nicki m's "did it on em" in there

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

Deej: that would have been in my top 50, much lower than the Freddie Gibbs album which is in my top 30. Again, it's not my list but a group effort.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

wow @ "soldier of love" #3, kickass

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

40. Kanye West "Power"
1. Kanye West feat. Pusha T "Runaway"

^^ these need to swap places

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

yup

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

Thirded.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

"From what I can see 2010 has had no more unjustly overlooked record so far than Nina Nastasia's sublime 'Outlaster', which hasn't appeared anywhere at all yet."

wow, thanks for reminding me. waka flocka and nina might be my number one and two for the pazz & jop poll.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

I guess I like the idea of a genre when it's still rough neck and like it less when it gets a make over for bars and expensive clubs etc. I felt the same way about jungle vs. intelligent drum and bass. I'm not really down with the Boomkat aesthetic with dance music for deep listening by the cognoscenti either. It's just a personal preference. In metal terms, it's what makes me like Slayer over Steve Vai or what have you.

― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, December 7, 2010 11:31 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so where is flockaveli on your list

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, December 7, 2010 11:52 AM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

claiming that if the damn quietus list came out with waka on it would be met with "wow, unexpected! good look!" instead of "smh at you damn multicultis" is strictly bs

banshun, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

Nicki tying Kanye for most appearances on the list is kinda crazy

Local Hardman (some dude), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

I don't care if you're being sarcastic or not I'm suggest banning any annoying person who brings out the 'too black' 'too white' thing in here.

Moka, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

Except that sometimes it can be a completely valid point.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

Not a very interesting or insightful one though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

No it's not jon it's an unnecesary observation that you're only making too incite racial discussion.

Moka, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

But thats about as arbitrary and stupid as saying, "I'm sbing anyone who complains about not enough rap on these lists".

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yes, that's exactly my intent, you're on to me.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

My point was just that Rolling Stone's lists are usually populated by old white guys and I was pleasantly surprised to see this year's top ten much less so. Totally a valid point.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

But thats about as arbitrary and stupid as saying, "I'm sbing anyone who complains about not enough rap on these lists".

― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0)

Ehmm no it's not, sbing about different music opinions is not valid, sbing about trolling is. What kind of answer are you honestly expecting with your comment? Are you inferring RS takes race into consideration when making votes for their best of the year?

Moka, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

Whatever dude. I'm not sure you understand what trolling is.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

at first glance that rolling stone singles list looks like something someone on ilm could come up with. maybe without the tom petty and the stones. and jakob dylan.

sad that peter wolf didn't make the singles list.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

According to wikipedia:

A troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Hey! your comment qualifies!

Moka, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

Hey! No it doesn't! But hey, you SBed me so hopefully enough other people agree with you that I'll be out of your hair with my inflammatory comments.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

His comment here about Rolling Stone is not "off-topic"

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 20:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

Or inflammatory or extraneous given the history of that magazine.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 20:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

claiming that if the damn quietus list came out with waka on it would be met with "wow, unexpected! good look!" instead of "smh at you damn multicultis" is strictly bs

― banshun, Tuesday, December 7, 2010

Those darn multicultis. Because of them this thread is just dominated by ballots of critics forced to vote due to political correctness for Waka, Gucci, Currency and for dancehall, Congolese rumba, reggaeton and old African-American soul singers. Poor Salem and Arcade Fire, done in by multicultis.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 20:26 (4 years ago) Permalink


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