Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy

just itt?

also does that mean no kanye now he has become blipster king?

boy i hate pointless solos -- instrumental passages should always have a thesis statement and supporting argument imo

seriously don't drag the who further into this discourse of kanye

ha i kind of like the autotune solo, i just thought the parallel was interesting. esp because I think most people just remember the awesome chorus of baba o'riley and not all the other boring crap in that song

i kinda like the actual sound and effect of his voice at the end of runaway, but still don't think it was worth doing

missed like two weeks of this thread but I'm gonna say that:

the fact that I can think of my 10 least favorite "Malibooyah reupholsted my pussy sarcophagus king of leona lewis jagger LOOOOOOVE" moments on this album and can only think of one line I love and its from Ross says a lot about why this album isn't the best ever

you gave it a 9 out of 10 though

yeah, its totally amazing, but like seriously, seriously, seriously flawed. And not in a way where you can bullshit it up with "the SWALLOWSHIP imperfections are what make it good"

idk dude a 9 outta 10 is basically saying to me that the flaws aint much of a thing

welcome back btw

ross has a nice verse but lol @ him saying "ciphered with yeezy before he got his jaw wired"...sure you did

oh no, rick ross told a lie!

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO

i just thought it was funny :?

i believe i also saw brandon soderberg say on tumblr that it was impossible for kanye to have ciphered w/ yeezy before his mouth was wired, but it should be pointed out that ross had a verse on the same trina album that had the kanye produced "b r right" on it, so i'll just say that it's not out of the question

he probably did tho, I remember hearing an early Ross track produced by Kanye...

ross has a nice verse but lol @ him saying "ciphered with yeezy before he got his jaw wired"...sure you did

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no idea if it's true but it's at least plausible, Kanye produced for Trina before the accident back when Ross was just another rapper on Slip-N-Slide (xpost)

maybe their ghostwriters ciphered with each other back then

Yeah I mean, maybe Ross didn't RHYME with Yeezy, but he probably was just like, "MAKE ME A DAMN BEAT." Hence: http://realniggatumblr.tumblr.com/post/1202917391/rick-ross-talk-to-me-ghetto-monopoly-2003

But that could just be Yeezy talking shit over the track and not him producing it, although it sounds like a Ye beat.

maybe he just means that he+his bros used to freestyle over kanye instrumentals and be like "damn, these beats are hot"

anybody know what this sold in week two?

108k, dropped to #7 below Boyle, Swift, BEP, and multiple Glee and/or Christmas albums

damn, yo. this economy/the internets, etc.

http://www.billboard.com/#/news/susan-boyle-likely-to-return-to-billboard-1004133389.story

merry christmas, dipshits

still, he'll break 1M by year's end.

i'm guessing ye olde G.O.O.D. Fridays are done at this point, hah?

are you rooting for him?

yeah, i guess i am, alfred. of course, i also root for the yankees. (but not the patriots.)

I got sucked into a WoW vortex (and am about to head back into it for the evening) but I still don't get the "it's disgusting but I'm not disgusted by it" argument. It seems to be impossible by definition; it's a given that the reaction is subjective, so what's wrong with owning up to it? Sometimes the visceral reaction is a better guideline than the reasoned reaction, etc etc.

Like, I'm not objecting to NS's indictment of the album, I am objecting to what feels like a blatantly dishonest expression of that indictment that I can't take seriously. Which is probably not helpful.

i dont see how theres something wrong with asking ppl to use honest critical assessments in negative reviews, even if they feel 'strongly' about it, that there are aspects of this record that we can all hear similarly while disagreeing/agreeing on whether or not those particular strategies work for the artist in question

seems to me that he's saying it's disgusting (for whatever reasons he listed) but that he's so desensitized at this point/expects this shit from kanye & friends that he's not gonna make a big deal about it?

xp

I'm attracted to albums produced by white middle-aged men in the midst of sexual hysteria: Death of a Ladies Man, Gaucho, Empire Burlesque. I find their self-absorption revolting and fascinating. But they're much better examples of craft than Kanye's.

btw did anyone else see the teaser clip for the "Monster" video?

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/12/kanye_monster_trailer.html

oh boy

(that's what made me bring that whole thing back up; dude appears to be channeling Saw)

kinda excited abt this

yeah it looks kind of incredible, altho i felt immediate sympathy for that one model

really too bad they couldn't have figured out a spot for bon iver as well

i've been looking forward to the "monster" video since i heard the song

i wish jay-z's verse wasn't as bad as it is - kanye's grew on me enough to be listenable, but having to fwd through the middle section every time is such a vibe-killer

yeah it looks kind of incredible, altho i felt immediate sympathy for that one model

lol the one who had to kiss kanye rather than the one who was HANGED, right?

lol "had to kiss kanye" is a very mild way of describing what happened there

It's not bad so much as vacuous; it adds or subtracts nothing.

I don't think Jay's verse is that bad (although I do cop to laughing at it more than enjoying it)

ps: LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHVE!

That video kind of looks amazing.

^^

i enjoy jay's verse. like the vegas-era of his career

i mean, its total un-felt garbage obv, but theres something so ridic about it

Vegas era without a "Suspicious Minds."

lol i'd settle for jay's "poke salad annie" at this point

kids at the college where i work are reenacting this thread in real life
a: "have you heard the new kanye album? he's so creative. have you seen the runaway movie? it's like a whole movie."
b: "i don't like kanye. he's a little bitch."

now they're listening to the album on one of the campus computers and one them is rapping along very quietly and poorly

better or worse than kanye's own rapping, y/n