2010 Magazine's Albums Of The Year Thread For Posting Lists and Discussion

who would truly prefer white guys making light of black music and culture to actual hip-hop?

history of rock music crit to thread.

"who would truly prefer white guys making light of black music and culture to actual hip-hop?"

people who don't listen to hip-hop.

i liked the salem album a bunch, but i can't think of any list i would put it on. maybe my "records i like that other people find offensive or horrifying or dreadful" list. or my "poseur doofuses that i have loved" list.

wld rather read scott's poseur doofus poll than all the other polls on this thread

^^

So, what you're saying is, I should pretend to like hip hop stuff at random and lie about it so as not to appear racist to some lunatic on the internet?

"who would truly prefer white guys making light of black music and culture to actual hip-hop?"

This is pure tautology. Unless of course Mulatu Astatke, Ali Farka Toure, Toumani Diabate, Gil Scott Heron, Janelle Monae, Ty Bulmer and P.O.S. are all white guys.

Or let me put it this way: if you think black history and culture is interchangeable with hip hop, then it's you who is racist.

I am kind of disappointed that everyone ignored my blatant trolling, tbh

clearly I'm slipping

We should tell people who haven't been following ILM this year to just keep up with this thread. It's turning into a redux of every argument that people have had this year.

I don't think we ever successfully jammed together the "Janelle Monae tries too hard, what a joke" argument with the "I like this 'Pretty Girl Bag' song" argument; I'd be game for running those together.

^^^ Best mashup since the Girl Talk album amirite?

you're overanalyzing a bit here

So, what you're saying is, I should pretend to like hip hop stuff at random and lie about it so as not to appear racist to some lunatic on the internet?

i didnt say you should pretend to like more hip-hop -- only that salem at #2 was kinda lame (considering it draws a good deal from, to generalize, southern hip-hop from the last decade or so). anyway, i'm glad your tastes and those of your staff are fully and accurately represented. like i said, i think it's a great list, salem aside

This is pure tautology. Unless of course Mulatu Astatke, Ali Farka Toure, Toumani Diabate, Gil Scott Heron, Janelle Monae, Ty Bulmer and P.O.S. are all white guys.

thank you, i realize that there are additional black musicians on your list -- that wasn't my point

Or let me put it this way: if you think black history and culture is interchangeable with hip hop, then it's you who is racist.

never said black history and culture were interchangeable with hip-hop, that's funny though!

anyway... i'm closing the can o' worms now

i like the quietus list!

quietus list once again has most of my favourites on it

how about the rock-a-rolla list?

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Dumb end-of-day exercise. Using 7 lists (Quietus, FACT, Drowned In Sound, Rock-A-Rolla, Q, MOJO, NME, Uncut, Spin), here's artists sorted by average rating first, then by # of lists they appear in:

John Grant 3 4.666666667
Salem 3 5.333333333
The Arcade Fire 7 8.571428571
Ufomammut 2 9.5
Emeralds 3 10.66666667
Drake 2 11.5
These New Puritans 5 11.6
The Fall 3 12
The National 5 12.2
MGMT 4 13
Kanye West 4 13.25
Vampire Weekend 4 13.25
LCD Soundsystem 6 14.16666667
Grinderman 7 14.28571429
Liars 4 16
Paul Weller 4 16
Gayngs 3 16.33333333
Midlake 2 17
Oneohtrix Point Never 5 17.4
The Black Keys 4 18.5
Robert Plant 4 18.5
New Young Pony Club 2 18.5
Big Boi 5 19
Foals 4 20
Laura Marling 3 20.33333333
Neil Young 3 20.33333333
Yeasayer 6 20.5
Best Coast 2 20.5
The Drums 2 21
M.I.A. 2 21.5
Swans 4 21.75
Caribou 4 22
High On Fire 2 22
Deerhunter 5 22.4
Forest Swords 2 22.5
Avi Buffalo 3 22.66666667
The Coral 2 23
Crystal Castles 3 23.33333333
Zola Jesus 3 23.66666667
Manic Street Preachers 4 23.75
Pantha Du Prince 3 25.66666667
Spoon 2 26.5
Beach House 4 26.75
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffitti 4 27.5
Arabrot 2 27.5
Klaxons 2 28
Janelle Monae 7 28.42857143
Hot Chip 2 29
Joanna Newsom 5 30.2
Glasser 2 31
Gil Scott-Heron 7 31.85714286
No Age 3 32.33333333
Gorillaz 6 33.16666667
Teenage Fanclub 3 33.33333333
Solar Bears 2 33.5
Flying Lotus 4 34.5
Mount Kimbie 3 37.33333333
Field Music 3 37.66666667
Edwyn Collins 3 40
Sleigh Bells 3 42
The Roots 3 43.66666667
Robyn 3 45
The Walkmen 2 46
Everything Everything 3 49.66666667

Consensus list sorted by # of lists and then average rating:

The Arcade Fire 7 8.571428571
Grinderman 7 14.28571429
Janelle Monae 7 28.42857143
Gil Scott-Heron 7 31.85714286
LCD Soundsystem 6 14.16666667
Yeasayer 6 20.5
Gorillaz 6 33.16666667
These New Puritans 5 11.6
The National 5 12.2
Oneohtrix Point Never 5 17.4
Big Boi 5 19
Deerhunter 5 22.4
Joanna Newsom 5 30.2
MGMT 4 13
Kanye West 4 13.25
Vampire Weekend 4 13.25
Liars 4 16
Paul Weller 4 16
The Black Keys 4 18.5
Robert Plant 4 18.5
Foals 4 20
Swans 4 21.75
Caribou 4 22
Manic Street Preachers 4 23.75
Beach House 4 26.75
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffitti 4 27.5
Flying Lotus 4 34.5
John Grant 3 4.666666667
Salem 3 5.333333333
Emeralds 3 10.66666667
The Fall 3 12
Gayngs 3 16.33333333
Laura Marling 3 20.33333333
Neil Young 3 20.33333333
Avi Buffalo 3 22.66666667
Crystal Castles 3 23.33333333
Zola Jesus 3 23.66666667
Pantha Du Prince 3 25.66666667
No Age 3 32.33333333
Teenage Fanclub 3 33.33333333
Mount Kimbie 3 37.33333333
Field Music 3 37.66666667
Edwyn Collins 3 40
Sleigh Bells 3 42
The Roots 3 43.66666667
Robyn 3 45
Everything Everything 3 49.66666667
Ufomammut 2 9.5
Drake 2 11.5
Midlake 2 17
New Young Pony Club 2 18.5
Best Coast 2 20.5
The Drums 2 21
M.I.A. 2 21.5
High On Fire 2 22
Forest Swords 2 22.5
The Coral 2 23
Spoon 2 26.5
Arabrot 2 27.5
Klaxons 2 28
Hot Chip 2 29
Glasser 2 31
Solar Bears 2 33.5
The Walkmen 2 46

not that anyone should give a damn or anything but WOW i think this awful awful thread might finally cure me of the habit of reading ILX!

Sorry, by rating I mean place in list. Time to go home.

Using 7 9 lists

not that anyone should give a damn or anything but WOW i think this awful awful thread might finally cure me of the habit of reading ILX!

― Babylon and zing (stevie

Since a bunch of this thread comes from other websites and periodicals, maybe you should give up on much of the internet

wait what are we gonna do without the other "stevie"?! i'm gonna miss his great posts on.......

I didn't expect to see Jamie Johnson so high on Spin's list.

The more I hear it, the more I fidn the Jan Monae record really fucking boring. Boy I hate me some white people.

Janelle Monae isn't white.

not like Amadou and Miriam

Lol rev.

NME readers are tho Rev.

Well, now you all know how I feel when Encoffination and Electric Wizard fail to get into XXL magazine.

xxl is based around 1 genre while quietus isnt?

Well, now you all know how I feel when Encoffination and Electric Wizard fail to get into XXL magazine.

all smh.gifs ever.

ha

i kind of feel all of these proper EOY lists are just a way to kill time until the ilx one, which i'm sure will have many smh moments but in the main tends to be way way better than anything else. who else placed both electrik red and the-dream in last year's top 5? with taylor swift winning the trax list?

Ha! I'd already forgotten that Taylor won the tracks list.

xpost ^^^ Yeah I feel this way. Inadvertent archival ILM review capsules are the best also.

TBH I'm always surprised that people focus so much on the lists themselves when to my mind the review capsules are the more interesting bit. Although TBH that's really "potentially". In practice they're often depressingly inadequate, esp. for the stuff i like.

Looking for the results thread, I realized that musically started the noms process the second week of December (the 8th to be exact). Where's she at this year?

yeah i haven't seen her post, like, since that thread -- was wondering if you or i or both of us would have to take it over again

(i wouldn't mind but didn't want to trample on musically's thing)

(i wouldn't mind but didn't want to trample on musically's thing)

exactly.

she hasn't posted since june, looks like

rip musically

I'll send her a note and see if she's cool with us doing it w/o her.

Sent.

I just stuck 16 UK and US lists in a spreadsheet.

Most selections:

Arcade Fire - The Suburbs 15
National - High Violet 12
Beach House - Teen Dream 11
LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening 10
Yeasayer - Odd Blood 10
Caribou - Swim 9
Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest 9
Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti - Before Today 9
Gil Scott-Heron - I’m New Here 9
Black Keys - Brothers 9
Vampire Weekend - Contra 9
Grinderman - Grinderman II 9
Sleigh Bells - Treats 9
These New Puritans - Hidden 8
Laura Marling - I Speak Because I Can 8
Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me 8
Janelle Monae - The Archandroid 8

and ranked on position (Amazon.co.uk all got 10.5th place.

1 Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
2 Beach House - Teen Dream
3 LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
4 These New Puritans - Hidden
5 Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
6 Caribou - Swim
7 Laura Marling - I Speak Because I Can
8 National - High Violet
9 Foals - Total Life Forever
10 Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me
11 John Grant - Queen of Denmark
12 Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest
13 Robert Plant - Band of Joy
14 Liars - Sisterworld
15 Emeralds - Does It Look Like I’m Here?
16 Forest Swords - Dagger Paths
17 Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti - Before Today
18 Janelle Monae - The Archandroid
19 Salem - King Night
20 Gil Scott-Heron - I’m New Here

#2+#3 together don't outscore #1

More interesting 751 slots has produced 323 albums. BUT if you take out everything that only has one vote (180 albums) you reduce the number only 142 albums filling those 571 slots.

NME, Uncut, Q, The Clash, Mojo, DiS, FACT, Sunday Times, Paste, Spin, Amazon.co.uk, The Fly, Rough Trade, The Quietus, Gorrila vs. Bear and Filter fwiw

GAPDY vs BLAND (beach house, lcd, arcade fire, national, deerhunter)

I'd go with BLANK when Kanye starts picking up steam tbh.

B DANK (Best Coast, Deerhunter , Arcade Fire, National, Deerhunter.)

Bethany would want it that way.

memes of the year, a hoy mag

1. thank you based god
2. snacks the cat
3. deal w/ it
4. robbenballs
5. ? 10.0?

BLANKET (add Emeralds and These New Puritans)

SLANKET

replace beach house with salem, only wear the lists as a joke