Will Oldham/Palace/Bonnie Prince Billie: S&D

"like if you hate him I kinda think you don't actually like/understand popular music in the latter half of the 20th century"

[Disparaging Voice]Yes mate you are totally correct, the essence of 20th century popular music has simply passed me by because I dont like one strand off its entire fabric.

I hear more about the human condition in one simple song by luminaries such as Skip James or Lightning Hopkins than in Dylans entire back catalogue (and I have tried many of his albums).

Admittedly they arguably were making music in the early half of the 20th century, but quite close to his era.

Your response is just the archetypal Dylanapologist arrogance I would expect from folk who cant just settle for him being merely their own particular favoured strand of 20th century popular music. You have this pathological need to elevate him above everyone else in the world, sort of like inverted adult teenyboppers with yer Bobbie Williams. Are you suggesting he is the motherlode of all 20th century greatness? Very shortsighted, deluded and plain wrong.

Obviously because a lot of folk with pallid dungeon-tans and wavering eyes spend a lot of time disserting his greatness, he is obviously not a mere strand but a godlike enigma etc zzzzzzzzzzz. He isn't Mozart, do you realise this?

u mad

#Mozartapologist

first palace bros singles/rarities comp (lost blues) works for me as his most solid work.

― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Thursday, December 2, 2010 1:00 PM Bookmark

^^^

Mozartapologist

Quack Quack Chortle!

the sound of a man choking on a message board post

Not really ballbag, just laughing at Mozartapologist.

u mad

Will Oldham certainly isn't perfect but he is worth a thousand Dylans.

like if you hate him I kinda think you don't actually like/understand popular music in the latter half of the 20th century

^ equally ridiculous

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Your response is just the archetypal Dylanapologist arrogance I would expect from folk who cant just settle for him being merely their own particular favoured strand of 20th century popular music. You have this pathological need to elevate him above everyone else in the world, sort of like inverted adult teenyboppers with yer Bobbie Williams

huge lols at 'dylanapologist'

1) why make it one word? there's no trailing 'a' in dylan!
2) that a well-respected musician can even have 'apologists' is a fucking hilarious idea, and one that can only be held by someone who is taking shit way, way, waaaaaaaaaaay too seriously. apologists are for people that are actively making the world a worse place.
3) you might be right about dylan getting too much love, i dunno, i never got into him that much (tho you have prompted me to put on john wesley harding), but actively hating dylan and his place in the pantheon is webelos grade challoping, try harder.
4) u mad, doggy

Will Oldham certainly isn't perfect but he is worth a thousand Dylans.

like if you hate him I kinda think you don't actually like/understand popular music in the latter half of the 20th century

^ equally ridiculous

You might be right but that is my humble opinion and I am not going to tell you that you know nothing about 20th century music because you beg to differ. Its different with Zimmerman though, isn't it?

"zimmerman!"

*audible sneer*

dude is so phony he doesn't even use his real name

will oldham interviews r kelly - http://www.interviewmagazine.com/music/r-kelly/

ILM needs a revived Will Oldham thread like it needs a hole in its head, but fuck it. Arise Therefore is a weird, weird record, even more so than I remember.

this self-cover has been killing me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-xSxWX7_-4

love it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtX1RSKW4gI&feature=related

Can anyone ID the band in this, especially the singer to his right?

those outfits are the fucking best

The female singer is Angel Olsen. The backing band is the same as Wolfroy.

Angel Olsen

this self-cover has been killing me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-xSxWX7_-4&feature=player_embedded

― j., Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:48 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark

man what the hell did i just watch

been diggin' that all summer. initially because I was all "HEY IT IS ASHTON LANE AND BYRES ROAD IN GLASGOW" but then the song just took over.

yeah i love that video

this new everly brothers tribute CD is about half great, half meh. "kentucky" is gorgeous.

Weird question: does Will work in the food/bev industry now?

thought he was in the fragrance industry - http://sanaeintoxicants.bigcartel.com/product/bonnie-billy
y'all should check this song out, which features oldham on the chorus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wU_jF6okvQ
whole album is great

Ha, but back to my question, I know he did a (weird) ad for Dogfish Head last year but I've kind of pieced together that he's been quietly collaborating with select cult/niche nanobreweries on special beer releases (in Maryland, Delaware, Louisville and... Santa Cruz)?

Just wondering if someone knows a little more.

He has his own coffee brand now, I think.

I have been playing "Whipped" a lot lately

New album 'Singers Grave a Sea of Tongues' out 22/23 Sept!

on drag city?

Yes, it's a full label release this time: http://www.stereogum.com/1701981/new-bonnie-prince-billy-album-singers-grave-a-sea-of-tongues-out-next-month/news/

I tuned out a few albums ago but that recent self-released thing was so good it brought me back. Will buy this

what self-released thing? i lost track of his releases a few years ago. it's easy to lose track.

i missed that one too. guess he's talking about this: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18650-bonnie-prince-billy-bonnie-prince-billy/

huh. was that some crazy limited edition?

If it's self-released, it's definitely limited edition.

been listening to a lot of palace stuff lately, it's so good.

also i have a question: what is "hosing" and why does the fact that death to everyone is gonna come make hosing more fun? serious question lol

btw i have a hard time feeling passionate about anything post i see a darkness. even if some of it is good it doesn't quite match up.

that was the cutoff point for me too, not sure why

I have really been enjoying this Greatest Palace Music album tho

xxp I always just took it as meaning "using a hose", like I imagine a guy watering his garden with a huge smile on his face, thinking about death coming to everyone.

lol

never heard greatest palace music, need to check it out. for me lately it's been lots of viva last blues and arise therefore. joya is good too

The new one is very good although a bit weird. It's mostly re-recordings of songs from 2011's Wolfroy Goes To Town. There is an EP of cover songs that comes with the first run of vinyl versions that is really fun. This is the tracklist:

C1 That's My Kind Of Night (Luke Bryan)
C2 Better Than I Used To Be (Tim McGraw)
C3 Let Me Love You (Ne-Yo)
C4 There Are Worse Things I Could Do (from "Grease")
D1 Loving You Is Fun (Easton Corbin)
D2 Die Young (Ke$ha)
D3 Take Care (Drake)
D4 I'm On My Way Home Again (The Everly Brothers)

so i feel like his voice changed a lot starting with the albums after ISAD, it lost that sense of frailty that was so intriguing in the early palace records. something bland about a lot of the later records. i haven't heard much from "ease down the road" so i don't know if that's a transitional album but there is a stark difference between ISAD and master & everyone, dude smoothed out a LOT and becomes less interesting as result

Didn't he get voice lessons around that time?