Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy

Let's have a bump for the douchebags

― Two and a Half Muffins (Eazy), Wednesday, December 1, 2010 5:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

lol

xpost because he can't play piano+samplers not invented yet? or just because people would be like "woah wtf is this, more like CRAP amirite??"

i'm saying put the guy Kanye in the 70s and see what records he makes, not put Kanye records in the 70s. don't be ridiculous, clearly my sci-fi premise makes more sense than yours!

This thought experiment is fuckin' ri-dick-a-lus.

This album is incredibly stupid in at least one essential, correct way; I am having tons of fun quoting it and hearing/reading other ppl quote/reference its dumber lines as part of conversation.

i'm saying put the guy Kanye in the 70s and see what records he makes, not put Kanye records in the 70s. don't be ridiculous, clearly my sci-fi premise makes more sense than yours!

― My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro) (some dude), Thursday, December 2, 2010 9:36 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no its just that expectations from rappers are diff than expectations for stevie fucking wonder. the context kanye's come up in is entirely different. no one expects MOP to compete with stevie wonder either.

I do

like wait -- a guy known for rapping & making beats cant compete with a songwriter/singer in the songwriter/singer's era?? no shit!

i dunno djp i think this is an effort by somedude/miccio to create alternate reality situations in which it can seem like overwhelming evidence suggests kanye is a hack or whatever, imo the record's flaws are self-evident & dont need this kind of disingenuously biased "WHAT IF..." scenarios

tbf I was making a snarky joke and actually agree with your position 100%

otherwise I would be on the Taylor Swift thread going "but what would happen if we put her up next to Miles Davis?"

i dunno djp i think this is an effort by somedude/miccio to create alternate reality situations in which it can seem like overwhelming evidence suggests kanye is a hack or whatever, imo the record's flaws are self-evident & dont need this kind of disingenuously biased "WHAT IF..." scenarios

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, December 2, 2010 10:06 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

dude u need to chill

haha

fwiw i don't think kanye is a hack, he's just a moderately talented overachiever who made some really great records in the past, and has probably just about hit his ceiling and run out of creative steam by now, at least for the time being.

i mean i think the 70s era of 'uplifting soulful innocence' pre-crack also makes stevie sort of untouchable, kanye has the unfortunate disadvantage of coming out post-crack, even if hes a reaction to post-crack rap hes still as defined by self-consciousness in relation to that as crack rap is directly. the weary cynicism of it all means nothing current can touch the purity of 70s classic soul in comparisons like this anyway

dude u need to chill

― BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Thursday, December 2, 2010 10:10 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

thats just poor wording! i just meant the argument tactic is as i originally said 'kinda batty'

jeez i just meant stevie's records had cooler synths (xpost)

I'd like to clarify something; I didn't actually read the hypothetical argument, I just saw Kanye getting compared to Stevie Wonder and started rmde

so I don't necessarily agree with you 100%

yeesh dudes whats w/ everyone trying to make me sound crazy lately

i dont really think i said anything too out there here! certainly not as out there as 'but how does kanye compare to 70s stevie wonder'

just clowning u dude

sorry i was playing with my banned whiney fingerpuppet since he always going on about how kanye deserves the "stevie award" for 4-5 great consecutive albums

comparing artists of different eras is just Shark v. Dinosaur bullshitting anyway. getting too worked up about it is like being the dude who says 'yes but a shark and a dinosaur could never actually fight unless the dinosaur had a scuba mask on, and how could you even make a scuba mask for a dinosaur???'

^^^good pt

about the mask i mean

hahaha

we should add kanye to that giant 'who would win in a fight?' superhero thread

I just had a massive flashback to late-90s rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe and the epic Storm vs Spiderman argument

i guess "don't be ridiculous, clearly my sci-fi premise makes more sense than yours!" wasn't a big enough tipoff that i wasn't being deadly serious with this whole line of conversation, but sorry guys, i apologize for suddenly making this thread so terrible

(I understood that and lolled, some dude; it was a good remedy for the sprain rmde caused)

everything about ilx is deadly serious

no, i got it some dude

i thought the 70s thing was about whether being self-absorbed was particularly zeitgeisty

i think the public nature of the self-absorption is whats difft now (the cocaine is the same)

You can totally compare their sunglasses.

and there's more worm medicine in the cocaine now

my cokehead dog will be glad to hear that

http://media.photobucket.com/image/dog%20snorting%20coke/timotes253/dog-1.jpg

http://www.sierracountyprospect.com/images/cooter030310.jpg

yeesh dudes whats w/ everyone trying to make me sound crazy lately

^ paranoid, too

bend me break me

i would fucking love an mop soul record

world needs it more than peace and a qatar world cup put together

^ paranoid, too

― da croupier, Thursday, December 2, 2010 12:41 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol

kinda enjoy the shorthand for it being 'staring at candles' tho

yeah, lol'd @ that yesterday

Can't be arsed to read the whole thread, but this album is disgusting and abhorrent.

As fir the brief talk about this being like a audiophle test record, uergh, fucking hell, no. Its horrible.

yeah, but how do you really feel about it?

Ambivalent.

I would love to hear more abt why it is disgusting and abhorrent

yeah there haven't nearly been enough mentions on this thread of pussy reupholstery

do i have to c&p my big ol' review about how he treats women, incl. beyonce the woman he made an 18 year old cry for, into personality free robots who only exist for pussy reupholstery?

wut about his moms