Year-End Critics' Polls '07

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haha "the indie rock" was a funny way to phrase that, sorry, subtract "the" or add a "world/community" at the end.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 13 December 2007 22:26 (sixteen years ago) link

teh indie rockz

Mordechai Shinefield, Thursday, 13 December 2007 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link

who is this band the Indie Rocks and where can I buy their music

latebloomer, Thursday, 13 December 2007 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Why hasn't Ricardo Villalobos been mentioned in any of those lists? Is it because it was not an 'album' or that no one listened to it or (scary?!) that no one liked it?

Popture, Thursday, 13 December 2007 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Was there a new Ricardo Villalobos this year that got a lot of hype? (Last year he was on a bunch of lists...)

Mordechai Shinefield, Thursday, 13 December 2007 23:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Fabric36, I guess?

jaymc, Thursday, 13 December 2007 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

that or fizheuer

max, Thursday, 13 December 2007 23:22 (sixteen years ago) link

fabric 36 never quite lived up to its pre-release hype. i liked it - but didn't love it like some of his other work.

sam500, Friday, 14 December 2007 00:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Some debut's on NME sure, but NME doesn't count as NME only likes debut albums. It is a well-known fact that NME hates anyone who has released more than 1 album and 2 singles.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 14 December 2007 00:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Panda Bear is the worst music I've ever heard.

The Reverend, Friday, 14 December 2007 00:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Reverend is a god among men.

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 14 December 2007 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link

why is glasvegas mentioned on this thread? people are weird

amused to see my #1 of the year isn't on any list at all.. still got it

electricsound, Friday, 14 December 2007 00:45 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't really like person pitch all that much but rev hating an indie album being backed up by the dude who likes mickey avalon and skye sweetnam is shocker non-shocker of the month for sure.

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 00:51 (sixteen years ago) link

it doesn't really seem like hateable music to me. it's just... there. resenting its critical love, maybe. but idk. it's kind of like wallpaper or something.

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 00:53 (sixteen years ago) link

No it is not wallpaper. It is earsplitting. (And actually I don't hate indie, just the way it gets privileged so much.)

The Reverend, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link

(Well, that's to say I don't hate indie on principle. I certainly hate that particular example thereof.)

The Reverend, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link

idk dude whenever i listen to it i just get kinda bored. way too may stretches where nothing really happens. i like the overall mood, but i most def do not get how anyone could really love person pitch.

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 01:11 (sixteen years ago) link

so you chaps who don't get person pitch - how do you feel about animal collective?

sam500, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:18 (sixteen years ago) link

i doubt rev has heard any animal collective, but i think panda's two songs on strawberry jam are better than anything on person pitch besides maybe "i'm not"

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 01:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I haven't heard Animal Collective, actually. I only downloaded Person Pitch after reading that if I liked LCDSS I'd like Panda Bear. Suffice to say, that wasn't true. Maybe after the cd I'm listening to is done, I'll pull them up on the U-Toob.

The Reverend, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link

xp haha

The Reverend, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link

idk if you'd like them. i don't have a great handle on what indie rockier music you might like. the new album is way more song-y than panda bear if that means anything.

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Indie rock albums this year I love: LCD Soundsystem, Charlotte Hatherley, Spoon, Gogol Bordello

Indie rock albums this year I like well enough: Battles, New Young Pony Club, the Hives, the White Stripes, Grinderman

The Reverend, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Truth is, I like a lot of indie music. The National, Iron + Wine, and (well I don't know if indie has claimed them but) The Noisettes are all on my year end lists. I just don't like Animal Collective, Panda Bear, St. Vincent, or Joanna Newsom. I actually hate them, and I've put the time in listening to their albums (Newsom I listened to about half a dozen times) to try and get what's going on there. And I just don't get it.

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Jinx. Oh yeah, I like the Hives + the White Stripes album. I liked a bunch of indie albums this year. Sorry for not liking whiny freak-folk.

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:34 (sixteen years ago) link

rev you might like this but all those albums kinda groove in an SFJ-type way which doesnt surprise me since your tastes seem to skew more towards rap/r&b/reggaeton (yeah?) and animal collective are kind of like weightless on the bottom end and really compressed. def more indie pop than anything you mentioned.

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 01:39 (sixteen years ago) link

newsom blows and new animal collective is def not folk, but i have no handle on what you like mordechai but it seems like you would/do hate the fuck out strawberry jam.

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 01:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Thing is, I like a lot of folk. Or rather, I like music that possibly has some folk resonances. I like Iron + Wine. A ton. Woman King EP is on constant replay in my apartment. It's just that the stuff I just mentioned doesn't click for me. I wish it did because a lot of people are really passionate about it, and I wanna get in on that. But there's something really unpleasant about it. (I don't like Andrew Bird either.)

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, vis-a-vis Band of Horses, I saw them open for Iron + Wine once and they were horrific. Like people were actually talking through their set because of how painful the music was. The only time I saw a more negative reaction was when Coco Rosie opened for Sufjan Stevens and half the place walked out.

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:45 (sixteen years ago) link

i most def do not get how anyone could really love person pitch.

I do, my roommate doesn't. He loves Strawberry Jam though, and said that the reason I love PP so inordinately is because I also like the Beach Boys a lot more than he does. Which is probably accurate. I can understand why people dislike it though, especially given the all the adulation (I dub this the "Destroyer Effect").

I like those OM and Rockarolla lists more than anything else on the thread so far. A lot of my fave stuff (Edward Ka-Spel, Nurse With WOund, etc.) usually misses out in these polls. Good to see a list for jazz reissues also.

It's also really nice to have all this yearend stuff on one thread.

sleeve, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Discovering Tokyo Jihen and Lansing-Dreiden have made me more interested in looking for more current rock bands I might like, but there's such an overwhelming amount of the stuff that I don't like that it's nearly impossible. I just thought I would mention that. I need to try doing a Tokyo Jihen station of Last FM again, but I know what I'm going to get. I'm going to get a lot of j-rock and j-pop that I either don't like, or that is just okay, but that I won't love or care about.

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:49 (sixteen years ago) link

My top ten is changing about every hour on the hour. I heard too much great music this year.

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I have to commend you for having such an international scope.

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:53 (sixteen years ago) link

FACT Magazine Top 100 Tracks of the Year!

http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/da/66290

sam500, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:53 (sixteen years ago) link

person pitch is way too distanced to even register half the time with me. the only song i really love on PP is "i'm not" cuz it's really emotional, like all those sampled voices just hanging in the air. it sounds like old choral or like gregorian chant music. it's the one song on the album that actually has some power.

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 01:54 (sixteen years ago) link

is FACT like the fader of the uk?

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 01:55 (sixteen years ago) link

lol @ "groove in an SFJ-type way"

I'm listening to "Peacebone" right now. (This is from their new album, yes?) The weird intro is cool, but when it gets into the actual tune it completely loses me.

The Reverend, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I'll check out "I'm Not," Jordan. I like Gregorian Chant music when I hear it (I hang out at the Cloisters every now and then). I'll seriously give anything a shot. If you can recommend something on Strawberry Jam, I'll try that too.

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:56 (sixteen years ago) link

The FACT list is really obnoxiously hip, and I like a lot of the things on it.

The Reverend, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:57 (sixteen years ago) link

It's also really nice to have all this yearend stuff on one thread.

-- sleeve, Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:48 PM (Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:48 PM) Bookmark Link

Three hats.

The Reverend, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:57 (sixteen years ago) link

from straw jam, listen to "fireworks" (it's a single) and um maybe "for reverend green". my otehr favorite songs are the panda ones but if you guys really ahte person pitch i wouldn't bother. "chores" is like that same drunk/stoned underwater beach feel of person pitch but an actual song. way punchier. i love it.

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah this FACT list is good.

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link

They seriously have a song called "For Reverend Green"?!

The Reverend, Friday, 14 December 2007 02:03 (sixteen years ago) link

FOOOOOOOOOR RODN3Y GREEN3
AAAAAAAAND CALLE THIRTEEEEEEN
FOOOOOOOR ROOOOOOOODN3Y GREEN3
AAAAAAAAAAAND CALLE THIIRTEEEEEN

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 02:04 (sixteen years ago) link

^this is the chorus

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 02:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm listening to fireworks. I've got the same problem with this as I have with all their music... The music seems pretentiously weird (weird for the sake of weird?), and the vocals aren't strong enough to really make up for that for me. And it really goes on way too long for me. And seriously, "the frightened babies poo"?

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 14 December 2007 02:05 (sixteen years ago) link

No, I'm saying the FACT list is way too "mp3 of the week".

xp haha (Actually Kanye West has overtaken Calle 13 as my album of the year. Shit seriously gets better every listen,)

The Reverend, Friday, 14 December 2007 02:06 (sixteen years ago) link

FACT is a free (half-size) print mag right? But their website has really blossomed this year. Kiran Sande does a very nice monthly round-up of all things electronic in his 'Contemporary Fix' column. He's not afraid to dismiss the hype which is refreshing.

sam500, Friday, 14 December 2007 02:08 (sixteen years ago) link

"Fireworks" is alright except for the horrible singing (so far).

The Reverend, Friday, 14 December 2007 02:09 (sixteen years ago) link

too bad about "fireworks". i had hope. i like graduation less every time i hear it. just seems way less accomplished than his other albums. still very good though. would be in my top 20 if my list expanded that far.

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 02:10 (sixteen years ago) link


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