Ok . MORE Arthur Russell (But This Is Great)

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arthur russells singing is so bad - what a dik

i mean cause like his music is otherwise so great

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Because he has all the access. So what? At least you got to hear ANY Arthur Russell.

b-b-but if they're that great, why not set them free, rather than blathering about it on the internet?

"a fecund debut" (Dave from Norwich), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

They aren't that great! Did you read the descriptions? Arthur is RAPPING on a track. So what, maybe this guy is just bragging about all the music he gets to hear that no one else has access to. Just the idea that no one else has that access is kind of novel to me, at this point, since everything is just one illegal download away.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

arthur russells singing is so bad - what a dik

i mean cause like his music is otherwise so great

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:28 AM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wtf who thinks this??? icey u crazy

deej, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

IM LEARNING TO TROLL

t_g, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link

hay wtf u band bro

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link

woops

t_g, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

ahahaha

deej, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link

b-b-but if they're that great, why not set them free, rather than blathering about it on the internet?
because as it pretty clearly says at the start of the article, they're either unfinished or the tape is rooted.

fela cooties (haitch), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I just saw the documentary last week and I thought it was very good and very interesting. But it left me wondering about what his personality was like, how he was socially, that kind of thing. The S.F. tape in the extras on the DVD where he speaks was kinda neat, though.

I SYMPATHIZE HAMSTER (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Just when you think you know everything about Arthur Russell...

just kidding, I never thought that, but this one had slipped by me. The Death of Don Juan, an Opera in Two Acts by Elodie Lauten featuring cello and vocals by Arthur. Zummo's on it as well. I purchased it from iTunes and it's really fantastic. Alan Licht apparently gave it props on the 3rd edition of his minimalism top 10. It's some serious post-minimalist stuff, ranging from catchy Reich/Glass style stuff done on a Fairlight to more meditative and droney bits. Echoes of Riley and Meredith Monk as well. Really great stuff.

dan selzer, Saturday, 20 December 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah; nice headphone listening while bopping around the streets. arthur's cello sounds great, and blends really well, but some of my favourite stuff on there's i guess the minimalist bits you mention, without him.

schlump, Sunday, 21 December 2008 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Love Is Overtaking Me made my Pazz & Jop and Nashville Scene lists, and I posted some about it on Rolling Country (in the Comments section of my Scene ballot)(had to put it in Reissues because that ballot includes even prev. unreleased music as Reissues:"any album on which at least fifty percent of the music was recorded at least five years ago").I did have to listen to it more than once to get into it, but second time's the charm. The DVD has a very unusually good balance of talk and music, and the imagery, pace of edits, etc. is very musical too, plus good bonuses.

dow, Sunday, 21 December 2008 01:57 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

April 4, 2009
The Music of Arthur Russell
An evening of the composer's vocal, instrumental, and dance music
Co-presented with Justine D. and boomBOOM Presents
Le Poisson Rouge / 10pm doors / 10:30pm show

i remember hearing that there was a performance of the instrumentals at the kitchen before the film came out. so might be interesting.

schlump, Thursday, 29 January 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/345578-01.htm

also on cd.

good for the arthur completist though the packaging could have been better.

it's a delight to finally hear the 12.26 walter gibbon's mix of "go bang!" although now i have i'm a little glad i didn't part with the $200 some japanese dealer was asking for a bootleg 12" of it a few years back.

stirmonster, Friday, 27 February 2009 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link

brilliant. are those the same versions of treehouse/schoolbell from the soul jazz comp?

straightola, Friday, 27 February 2009 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Is Love is Overtaking Me worth purchasing, or not? I quite like World of Echo, but some of the comparisons in this thread scare me.

batmeh (brightscreamer), Sunday, 8 March 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not convinced of his genius yet, but LIOM forced me to reconsider him. Such warm, friendly music. Nothing great, but a perfect morning soundtrack.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 March 2009 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

He makes me sad in a way, because though I believe he was capable of some incredibly brilliant, unique stuff (World of Echo for starters) but he has also done a lot of music that has left me disappointed or scratching my head. I guess it's a good thing he was so prolific.

Gothy McGoth (Bimble), Sunday, 8 March 2009 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link

love is overtaking me = james taylor

some of it's real good though, and it oscillates between totally fully formed stuff - like real ensemble pieces - and scruffier demos. some of it's as classic as everything else though.

schlump, Monday, 9 March 2009 02:43 (fifteen years ago) link

bimble, it's probably worth remembering that a lot of that music wasn't finished, so it's hard to judge him for that. Like some of this stuff he knew would leave you scratching your head, and he didn't finish it, and it never came out, so we can't really knock him for that!

dan selzer, Monday, 9 March 2009 04:25 (fifteen years ago) link

James Taylor my ass. None of that methadone noblesse here, if that's what you meant. Young AR's always always reflective, but always observant, always moving (eventually into Talking Heads-type territory)

dow, Monday, 9 March 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

so, stirmonster's link in that post isn't working for me, so i'm just going to post the tracklist here so we all know how awesome this is...

Arthur Russell - The Sleeping Bag Sessions

01 - Bonzo Goes To Washington - 5 Minutes (B-B-B Bombing Mix)
02 - Felix - Tiger Stripes (Extended Version)
03 - Felix - You Can't Hold Me Down (Extended Version)
04 - Clandestine feat. Ned Sublette - Radio Rhythm (S-I-G-N-A-L-S-M-A-R-T) (Extra Cheese Mix)
05 - Sounds Of JHS 126 Brooklyn - Chill Pill (Underwater Mix)
06 - Indian Ocean - School Bell/Tree House (Original 12" Version)
07 - Indian Ocean - Treehouse (Extended Bootleg Edit)
08 - Dinosaur L - Go Bang! (Walter Gibbons Mix)
09 - Bonzo Goes To Washington - 5 Minutes (R-R-R Radio Mix)
10 - Clandestine feat. Ned Sublette - Radio Rhythm (S-I-G-N-A-L-S-M-A-R-T) (Dub Mix) (Killer Whale)

vinyl: http://www.discogs.com/Various-Arthur-Russell-The-Sleeping-Bag-Sessions/release/1677023

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

(i may have meant jackson browne (i get mixed up)) (but it is so true, all his kinda slow drum machine shuffly eighties stuff)

deveraux billings (schlump), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Russell & Ned Sublette collabo - awesome.

bamcquern, Monday, 9 March 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean, the idea. Never heard the track.

bamcquern, Monday, 9 March 2009 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link

A lot of these are experiments, knockoffs, brief sketches, and just plain screwing around in the studio. What's amazing is how much of this stuff sounds so right even in its unfinished state. But, I suspect Russell is one artist who never really thought any work as definitively finished.

leavethecapital, Monday, 9 March 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I could listen to "Your Motion Says" and the title track all day long.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 March 2009 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry to be grouchy.

dow, Monday, 9 March 2009 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Sleeping Bag Sessions is wonderful. Dance Arthur is still tops for me above folky/Kitchen/singer-songwriter Arthur. The man had such a malleable, off kilter way with the technology and techniques of club/dance music that I could listen and learn forever.

Capitaine Jay Vee, Monday, 16 March 2009 02:10 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...


Your original display name will be displayed in brackets (Display Name), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 05:17 (fourteen years ago) link

m coleman, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link

That is absolutely wonderful, hadn't heard that one before. Has that been reissued on anything? I'd rank that in the tops of his dance stuff.

Soundslike, Thursday, 30 April 2009 00:28 (fourteen years ago) link

west end reissued it about two years ago, you can probably find it at one of the online record stores.

the one that is still infuriatingly out of print is 'kiss me again' - considering sire have reissued things like 'white horse' you'd hope they'll get around to repressing it at some point.

butt_hurton (haitch), Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:28 (fourteen years ago) link

You can find it on the Disco Not Disco comp.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:29 (fourteen years ago) link

haha, that's not in print either now!

butt_hurton (haitch), Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link

also it had a short, edited version. this is the one i'm after.

butt_hurton (haitch), Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, speaking of which, didn't somebody ask about any of the Sleeping Bag Sessions tracks being on Soul Jazz comps? I've got ones with those versions of "Tiger Stripes", "Schoolbell/Treehouse", "Indian Ocean", and "Go Bang!", but all my Soul Jazz comps featuring Arthur are of print, I think, and I've never seen the other tracks on SBS.

dow, Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I secretly like the 6 minute edit of Kiss Me Again that appears on Disco Not Disco better then the 12/13 minute full length and dub versions, but of course all 3 are better then anything else ever recorded in the history of music.

The SBS comp has a version of Go Bang that's never been released, the fabled Walter Gibbons mix.

dan selzer, Thursday, 30 April 2009 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link

really??? i way prefer the longer versions.

autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 30 April 2009 06:49 (fourteen years ago) link

same. dub is my fav

just sayin, Thursday, 30 April 2009 07:41 (fourteen years ago) link

The Walter Gibbons mix of Go Bang has become my favourite.

I think Stirmonster has also done a re-edit of Kiss Me Again which he linked to on an Arthur Russell thread before.

I am using your worlds, Thursday, 30 April 2009 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I think Stirmonster has also done a re-edit of Kiss Me Again which he linked to on an Arthur Russell thread before.

it's really just a "radio" edit of the b-side to the original 12" version that cuts out 5 minutes of it as i couldn't fit the full version onto our "psyche out" mix. it's also useful for when it's hard to fit the full length version in a set but in an ideal world, i'd go with the full length version every time.

stirmonster, Thursday, 30 April 2009 11:01 (fourteen years ago) link

The Soul Jazz Arthur Russell comp is back in print on CD and LP as of a month or so ago, so pick it up if you haven't got it, it's great.

CosMc (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 30 April 2009 11:16 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, really...I heard the edit first and it's just got this harder edge to it.

dan selzer, Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah the soul jazz comp is so much better than the sleeping bag sessions, walter gibbons mix aside and was my gateway to the man really. just listening to tell you on youtube and i need it baaad

straightola, Thursday, 30 April 2009 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I secretly like the 6 minute edit of Kiss Me Again that appears on Disco Not Disco better then the 12/13 minute full length and dub versions

Cosign (minus the secretly).

This Sleeping Bag thing is a mess, obv. I like how Bonzo Goes to Washington, which is essentially Bootsy Collins and Jerry Harrison's record, is now being claimed as a Russell creation. (He mixed it.)

Matos W.K., Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

"Chill Pill" on the Sleeping Bag Sessions is cool.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link

ye, besides the gibbons mix "chill pill" is my favorite on the sbs record

i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

the world always needs more trippy, dubbed out kid-rap

i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link


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