Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy

also I think people are really misusing the terms "minimalist" and "maximalist"

i was just trying to fit in

i'm a maximalist, think his gawker posts are pretty good

max i'ma list

which "ppl" are you talking about here, because I have been a massive booster of 808s since its release

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not u then...but the attitude towards this record was far more favorable on ilx until that review dropped

i mean, al wasnt gonna like it either way

dont get me wrong

ok i just STOLE this

okay the Chris Rock skit works a lot better the second time around because I know how long it is

also "Lost in the World" could be called many things but I don't get how it's boring

also I think people are really misusing the terms "minimalist" and "maximalist"

"minimalist" means something whereas I'm not sure that "maximalist" does, really

yes it is a fake word but imo useful shorthand for the lack of space in the production of this album

http://www.yourdictionary.com/maximalist

lol

http://www.livius.org/th/theory/theory-maximalists.html

lol ok well spellcheck doesn't like it

okay so for the record:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimalism

it's not really about how many instruments are playing at a particular time; it's about song structure and repetition, which points some of the denser tracks here to actually being more minimalist in composition

embraces heterogeneity and allows for complex systems of juxtapositions and collisions, in which all outside influences are viewed as potential raw material

undecided if this applies or not

like, it sort of does, but then the (normal for hip-hop) usage pattern is very minimalist

basically the whole maximalist/minimalist thing is a red herring, is my ultimate point

agreed--can we just use "really loud overstuffed production with no space"

who exemplifies middlemalism & which singers utilize middlemelisma to greatest effect

agreed--can we just use "really loud overstuffed production with no space"

btw are we sure we mean production & not loudness-wars-related mastering stuff? I'm not, there's like 3 mastering dudes working who don't have their heads all the way up their asses AFAIK

overusing and misusing "minimalism" is kind of one of the recurring themes of the entire history of ILM

entire history of western metaphysics imo

or maybe only with the rise of 'criticism'/early romantics

btw are we sure we mean production & not loudness-wars-related mastering stuff?

i'm sure it's mastered to be too loud but i also think the arrangements and mixing are too much, all the time

power and all the lights are the worst offenders--both these songs are pretty much a mess

"Power" is a mess??????

was running on the assumption that maximalism = too much all the time

xp: like, it's basically "Jesus Walks Pt 2", I don't get it unless you dislike both of those songs

the engineering is one of the things i actually like about this. dont hear much loudness wars-esque distortion at all? id have to listen again tho

'monster' beat has great use of space/tension imo

"monster" is really hittin' me hard right now, maybe my favorite thing here overall — btw kanye why the hell are you mixing goose and malibu? not sure what that's supposed to achieve

(other than letting you "call it 'mali-BOOYAH!")

i'm already exhausted by this album and i haven't even heard it yet

well one of the probs with being a bad copy of jesus walks (it actually reminds me more of crack music actually) is that jesus walks already exists

#kanyefatigue trending hard on twitter

"Power" is a mess??????

I know, I had the same reaction but then I remembered I was thinking of the Amy Grant song "The Power," from her 1994 album House of Love, as I assume you also were

the engineering is one of the things i actually like about this. dont hear much loudness wars-esque distortion at all? id have to listen again tho

what format are you listening in

live

kanye sleeps on my futon and performs the album every night at 8pm

what a dark twisted fantasy

that's come baller shit right there

come...baller?

obviously meant to say "corn baller"

okay the worst possible typo

and by worst I do mean best

'Power' is not 'Jesus Walks 2.0' they're both different beasts and they're both great.

it was an obamanation

I can't comment on the lyrics.

why not?

'Power' lyrics are cringeful in several spots.

But I adore what he did on the backing track.