Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy

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not saying kanye should be pfork's pitck bcuz of marketing, but bcuz its a record that hits a lot of aesthetic points for pfork's audience, btw -- that it 'makes sense' as a 10.0 record!

smangs of new york (deej), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

1o.0

Noel 1 Silence 0 (blueski), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

but otoh not giving out 10.0's because you acknowledge that no piece of human art can attain perfection is grumpy old man shit & that handing out a 10.0 once in awhile is more fun

this this this

based lord sotosyn (The Reverend), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

"insidious"!

based lord sotosyn (The Reverend), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

feels like maybe dyed-in-the-wool indies resent pitchfork for breaking its long 10.0 silence to celebrate a MAINSTREAM COMMERCIAL RAPPER — would've been okay if some out-of-nowhere dudes turned into 'the animal collective of 2k11' and made an album that is a testament to the relevance of the indie lifestyle

underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm not saying nobody should ever give something a 10.0 if they really feel it's warranted, I'm just saying that it doesn't seem warranted here and it seems to be done for reasons that are more insidious than just "fun"

― vodka loko lame (some dude), Monday, November 22, 2010 11:31 AM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ooooh what are these insidious, conspiratorial motives?? do tell

i mean do u really think most of pfork's staff doesnt like this record?

smangs of new york (deej), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

when will p4k reveal their evil plan?

based lord sotosyn (The Reverend), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

feels like maybe dyed-in-the-wool indies resent pitchfork for breaking its long 10.0 silence to celebrate a MAINSTREAM COMMERCIAL RAPPER — would've been okay if some out-of-nowhere dudes turned into 'the animal collective of 2k11' and made an album that is a testament to the relevance of the indie lifestyle

― underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, November 22, 2010 11:33 AM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark

what hipster is willing to give a hipster musical plaudits of 10.0?? this seems more pforkian imo

smangs of new york (deej), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

most of them prefer /\/\/\Y/\ secretly

Noel 1 Kanye 10.0 (blueski), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

when will p4k reveal their evil plan?

Watch: Gorillaz Cover the xx

I think they just did

ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

idgi thought this record was p.average. not reading this thread, is this the prevailing view? what to make sure I'm aligned w/the consensus.

should've called it 'long ass songs' tbqfh

mo loko (cozen), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxpost no the point is that pfork isn't hipster anymore — they're not interested in finding 'the obscure new thing' but in getting way to excited about the thing that everyone KNOWS is good — it's 'the new sincerity'

underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

*way TOO excited; *kills self*

underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

my favourite album of the 00s is only an 8.4

... which is? :)

mo loko (cozen), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

lol dan

based lord sotosyn (The Reverend), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

no opinion on what 10 does or doesn't/should or shouldn't mean but fwiw all my shit deserves at least a 10, me and that dolphins band I've been telling you guys about. taking over in 2011 fyi

aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ OTM

ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

the album has made pleasant background music for the last ~30 minutes of talking about the album — just sorta drifting off, tuning back in when it gets interesting

underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

goats/dolphins '12

based lord sotosyn (The Reverend), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

... which is? :)

Studio (actually it might be 8.8 i must check 'nolife.xls' when i get home)

Noel 1 Kanye 10.0 (blueski), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I should make that my new interview look, just turn all the conversations back to "why the fuck don't I have, minimum, 3 10s? everybody knows I deserve that shit, hook me up with a 10 pitchfork, right thing to do imo"

aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

dolphins w/horns
(skalphins?)

underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd say studio is a 10.0

mo loko (cozen), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

dude aero I'm sure you'll get some lovin' when the deluxe reissues drop

underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah 8 means 10.0 for me pretty much don't sweat it

Noel 1 Kanye 10.0 (blueski), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Of course the audio spin-off of Kanye's growing pains would get just the "ten" from us

da croupier, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

ok maybe i sounded a little bit dramatic with the word "insidious" but i just meant it in the sense of the gradual, subtle degradation of things like scores on reviews. what happens if Kanye or, god forbid, another rapper makes an album like MBDTF but clearly better in every way? will they just have to go Spinal Tap with the score since they already hit the ceiling once?

vodka loko lame (some dude), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

too funny to think abt

underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

um, no

they will also give that album a 10.0 if they like it that much

the thing about subjective ratings is that things can end up with the same score and people can still like one more than the other

ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

It's not like giving 5s to Sleep With Angels or Goddess In The Doorway meant a thing to Rolling Stone after the issue dropped.

da croupier, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

(referring to Kanye or, god forbid, another rapper makes an album like MBDTF but clearly better in every way)

underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

kinda wish someone would make an album like To The 5 Boroughs but clearly better in every way, just to blow David Fricke's mind.

da croupier, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't think any other rappers have the money to make an album like MBDTF

prolego, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Will Smith does

ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Geddy Lee.

look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Will Smith does

― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, November 22, 2010 6:09 PM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark


OMG

underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

are y'all thinking what I'm thinking

underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

what does that even mean, though? there's nothing that technologically or instrumentally complex on it that anyone w/ a professional studio couldn't pull off more or less, and the guest list isn't much more extravagant than the average major label rap album (besides "All Of The Lights," where you can't even hear most of the big names). (xpost)

vodka loko lame (some dude), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean albums can really never be like special effects-driven movies where you really can feel or see or hear the budget in the final product in any meaningful way. that's part of why blockbuster movies are ultimately more viscerally exciting than this album, which is basically the aural equivalent of a Michael Bay movie.

vodka loko lame (some dude), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

rly looking forward to
willow smith - "scourge (feat. will smith, aaliyah's ghost, zooey deschanel, and someone from glee)"
blowing up the charts in appx. 1.5 years

underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

those track credits are missing Wicked Wisdom

da croupier, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

so i now own this, but had to finish listening to cough's "ritual abuse" on the drive back. "ritual abuse" might well get an 8-something from me, it does not deserve a 10.0 tho

questeon the answers (call all destroyer), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

btw pitchfork obv could not bust out a 10 for an indie record; this was like there only chance to *do it up* in the last 5 years and prob will be for the next 5.

questeon the answers (call all destroyer), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

they probably could've done it for MPP last year.

prolego, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link

they could have but a) i maintain they will not do it for an indie album and 2) who says that was anco's *career peak*

questeon the answers (call all destroyer), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

lol a) and 2)

questeon the answers (call all destroyer), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

they're betting that kanye never makes an album this good again

questeon the answers (call all destroyer), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i think they could have done it for Funeral easily but that was quite a while ago

ciderpress, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

don't think you can give a 10 to a first album

questeon the answers (call all destroyer), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link


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