Germs Reunion: ANYBODY?

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Not to my ears, it's not. I only listened to it once, granted, but I didn't hear anything I'd ever want to hear again.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 3 December 2005 22:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

I still can't remember whether i heard the ROIR tape first before hearing the album. I think i did, cuz i remember being really surprised by how tight the band was on the album and all i knew about Germs was sprawling mess.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 December 2005 22:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

Listen to it one more time.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 December 2005 22:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

>Listen to it one more time.

What, homework? Life's too short, the stack of unplayed CDs by my stereo is too tall. I'll listen to Claude Coma and the IVs' Art From Sin again, instead - back when I was 13 and just getting introduced to punk by my crazy friend Lowell (who had heisted all the best records out of his older brother's room), that was one of my favorite albums.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 3 December 2005 22:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

this thread led me to buy (GI) offa iTunes - my vinyl of it's back in California, and the reissue has pretty much all the Germs you need, except for the live DVD, which is totally essential. I know life's short 'n' all, but I really do feel the Germs were a singularity: not just great punk but really no-holds-barred cage match punk, the stuff that sorta makes good on the threat. Also, Smear is playing rings around everybody in the scene besides Jeffrey Lee Pierce, and it's kinda exciting.

iTunes man! you don't gotta accumulate any extra stuff! or not, just sayin', very little counts as "classic" to me but (GI) does

― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 3 December 2005 23:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

then again, I put the new Bolt Thrower in the "classic" shelf after one listening

― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 3 December 2005 23:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

I saw the reunion gig in LA with Shane West *as* Darby. It was very, very strange. The band still totally kicks ass and the songs are great, but the whole Darby-as-played-by-actor dynamic makes everything very disturbing and overdetermined. It's not bad but it's very perverse and symptomatic and interesting. I went home and wrote a long ass essay about it that's going to come out some time so I won't blather on forever here. But basically it creates a very perverse extra layer of meaning at certain points in certain songs, and it becomes like, I dunno, a Civil War re-enactment of an old battle or something. I recommend it, but strap down for an odd experience.

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Monday, 5 December 2005 05:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

The word canon in this thread bothers me because the Germs are nowhere near canonical enough IMO. Don Bolles is a great guy and I imagine the others are too and it's stupidly stingy to begrudge them some extra recognition and maybe a few dollars. This is not a fucking Sex Pistols reunion or something people.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 5 December 2005 05:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

What's wrong with the Sex Pistols reunion?

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 5 December 2005 06:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

John Lydon already has enough cash from his Malibu real estate dealings or whatever. I was just kidding though. I can think of 1000 bands I would pick on for reuniting before I would pick on the Germs.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 5 December 2005 06:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

I saw the reunion gig [...] It was very, very strange. The band still totally kicks ass and the songs are great, but the whole [...] dynamic makes everything very disturbing and overdetermined. It's not bad but it's very perverse and symptomatic and interesting. [...] basically it creates a very perverse extra layer of meaning at certain points in certain songs [...]

Drew, are you me writing about Gang of Four? If not, please get out of my brain ("overdetermined" indeed). Thanks.

― xero (xero), Monday, 5 December 2005 06:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

shane west doesnt get it and sucks

― howell huser (chaki), Monday, 5 December 2005 06:47 (7 years ago) Permalink

shane west?!?!?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 5 December 2005 07:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

Don Bolles is a great guy

!!!!

thought I couldn't be shocked anymore, then I read that.

― A Person, Monday, 5 December 2005 07:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

Well, I don't know him or anything. He just seems like an interesting guy.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 5 December 2005 07:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

I saw the show and to me it was always about the music, not the "scene". Darby never sang into the mike anyway. It was pretty good although I though the guitar wasn't loud enough.

― Hec Ramsey, Monday, 12 December 2005 21:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

Drew's essay, which was delivered at EMP Pop Conference last spring, is amazing. Tho I can't see how the print version will live up to the live performance, which included video of Drew getting a Germs Burn.

― carl w (carl w), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 06:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

What we do is get profiled.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

I didn't realize who Shane West was until I read that article last week. All I could think was "Oh *that* guy from ER. He is *so* not Darby!" But I guess I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Better or worse than the Edie Sedgwick movie, I wonder?

― nickn, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 21:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

Or as Don Bolles christened me, 'Shane Wreck.'

haha perfect

― marmotwolof, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 21:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

the Darby movie is finally opening (just NY/LA?) this Fri.

Did Drew ever publish his essay?

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 14:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

The film was profiled today in Salon. They gave it a meh.

― leavethecapital, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

slate also gave meh however film threat and variety gave props

however this:

the Mae Shi performed as the Screamers

― Edward III, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

meh seems the consensus opinion.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 13:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

I think getting wasted and listening to Germicide in a big room w a bunch of people'd be better than that tour.

Also, man listening to a record ONCE is so dumb! I mean if it's not yr usual thing, anyway. How're you gonna know if it could BECOME yr thing? Listen to it a LOT! Buy records you think you won't like AND LISTEN TO THEM TIL YOU DO! It's way more fun than hearing some boring thing you already know you'll like, and pretty selfilluminating too

― Niles Caulder, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 14:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

Buy records you think you won't like AND LISTEN TO THEM TIL YOU DO! It's way more fun than hearing some boring thing you already know you'll like, and pretty selfilluminating too

most OTM thing said on ILM in ages

― J0hn D., Wednesday, 6 August 2008 15:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

it's true - many of the bands I love I didn't like at first listen. I've developed an instinct that says "I'm not digging this but there's something there, I need to listen to it again."

― Edward III, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 16:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

in other news, they should've hired realicide to be the screamers

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQxZ0Vaj6FE

― Edward III, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 16:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

too lazy to c+p? no worries

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQxZ0Vaj6FE

― Edward III, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 16:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

They're playing in London in a couple of weeks.

I'm not sure either way what they'd be like to see live now - I'm usually all for going to see reformed bands and not usually that bothered if it's all original members or not, but I've read Shane West isn't just singing for the Germs, he's still acting the role of Darby Crash from the movie onstage, which I dunno, kinda seems a bit weird.

― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 16:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

Kind of a parallel to this is when Henry Rollins sang for the Ruts - another band whose singer OD'd at the beginning of the 80s - but he wasn't onstage in the role of Malcolm Owen, he was just singing the songs, and I have no problem with that (in fact I kinda wish I'd gone to that gig).

― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 20:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

wow What We Do Is Secret is shamefully, hilariously bad. possibly the worst "rock biopic" I've ever seen.

― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha yeah i made it about 20 minutes

― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 May 2012 00:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

wow What We Do Is Secret is shamefully, hilariously bad. possibly the worst "rock biopic" I've ever seen.

Oh come on, it's certainly better than the Def Leppard biopic that VH-1 put together (the one with Anthony Michael Hall as Mutt Lange).

― Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 4 May 2012 00:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

but both the Chips and Quincy punk rock episodes are far better (and less tedious than What We Do...)

― Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 4 May 2012 00:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh come on, it's certainly better than the Def Leppard biopic that VH-1 put together (the one with Anthony Michael Hall as Mutt Lange).

― Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:35 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha omg how did i miss that???

― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 May 2012 00:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

That Def Lep movie is awesome! Fuck the haters.

― EZ Snappin, Friday, 4 May 2012 00:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

WWDIS is a miracle of poor construction, it doesn't even really have scenes or characters - it follows this weird model of a talking head says something happened > show that thing happening for 10 seconds > brief music interlude > on to next thing.

― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Agree that the Def Leppard movie is great. There is a lot of subtlety in it, and it's really fun to watch. No, I'm not being sarcastic.

― Poliopolice, Saturday, 5 May 2012 01:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

do you think darby ever once said "cut your hair you krautrock hippy" like in the film

― am0n, Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:22 (11 months ago) Permalink

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