Amadou and Miriam : What's their deal?

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Senegal fast food is tres Manu Chao-y and a great driving song.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 August 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Dimanche à Bamako is my favourite album of 2005 thus far. There, I've said it.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 22 August 2005 09:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Hooo-ray! The lyrics are incredibly cringe-worthy though...

Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Monday, 22 August 2005 10:05 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Dimanche à Bamako very fun.

anyone heard the earlier records? any recommendations on one to get that's not the 'best of'?

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

They are quite unbelievably fantastic live... intensely, relentlessly pleasurable.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I have now heard Dimanche A Bamako and Sou Ni Tile and I prefer the latter.

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Sunday, 9 October 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

My girl claims that their earlier material is better; I'm borrowing a few discs to check that.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 October 2005 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

"borrowing a few discs"

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Sunday, 9 October 2005 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

wow. why isn't everyone going nuts for amadou and mariam (and manu chao for that matter)???

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Thursday, 20 October 2005 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I wanna love 'em but can't afford the disc yet. And Manu Chao is somewhat more frothy and lite-ish than he has to be.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 20 October 2005 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Still an amazing album and a real crowd-pleaser in this household.

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

frothy and lite-ish

here, you mean? i really love the sound of this. with so much going on in a lot of the songs, everything gets to shine through. i haven't listened to his solo stuff in years, so i can't compare it, though.

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, as much as I dislike the guy and could do without his guest vocals on the album, his production is pretty great on this.

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Everyone in France is going nuts for Amadou & Mariam. They're proper pop stars over there.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't get enough of this album. I love the Manu Chao 'sound', too, and I don't necessarily agree that's it's too frothy but I like the descriptor.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, I seem to remember all the chat that Clandestino was recorded on various four-track cassette machines around Latin America, or something. I hardly can believe that with the way it sounds!

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link

once again, i have to really recommend "Siberie M'etait Contee". I had not previously liked manu chao but this really turned me around. very, very unlike "clandestino." production sort of similar to the amadou and miriam record. don't know how easy it is to track down tho.

b'angelo, Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll try Manu Chao more. I'm pretty sold on this A&M album being great though, they both look like Stevie Wonder!

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyone seen them live? They're playing here in Brussesl next month and I'm pretty tempted to go

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link

of course, i now notice they were just in chicago last month. hearing this now, i'd have loved to opportunity to have seen them live...

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, in chicago a month or so ago. it was pretty good, had to leave early due to an extremely tired companion. the live performance was a little less varied than the record, though. very gallic rhythm section. i would say check it out.

b'angelo, Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Manu Chao sorta annoys me. Try living in France for a while among the culture of gushing faux-gypsy teenage girls that have grown to adore him. As for his music - it sounds great when you first hear it, but it really wears over a WHOLE album, let alone three or four.

High Tea in the Chinese Quarter (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link

The idea that their is a culture of gushing faux-gypsy faux-teenage (faux?) girls in France that are growing to adore Manu Chao makes me almost want to like him.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't recommend their live show highly enough. I actually thought it was more varied than the album, in that it drew more explicitly on non-African music styles, almost like an encyclopedia of popular music from last 50 years. At various points, I heard traces of Eddie Cochran riffs, 60s garage rock, hard rock, reggae, blues, Latin/Cuban, hip hop, funky house, tribal house, techno and trance. There's an ultra-enthusiastic dreadlocked percussionist who almost steals the whole show, but the whole band radiate pure joy. Except for Mariam, who remains imperiously stony-faced throughout, even when the dreadlocked percussionist guy is playing right underneath her nose. And Amadou is a fantastic, fluid guitarist. It's also important that you clap along every now and again, even if you don't care much for clapping along, as A&M kind of thrive off the feedback, if that doesn't sound too patronising.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

The idea that their is a culture of gushing faux-gypsy faux-teenage (faux?) girls in France that are growing to adore Manu Chao makes me almost want to like him.

Alex, these people are just the French equivalent of Berkeley granola -type people, the sort of people you usually proclaim to be "assholes".

Not that this is a valid reason for not enjoying Manu Chao's music, just a bit of anecdotal detail...

High Tea in the Chinese Quarter (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

...I mean I LIVE in Berkeley and I eat granola!

High Tea in the Chinese Quarter (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

That culture is way more pervasive in France than its Berkeley equivalent...

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, but these folks are in France and I don't have to be around them which makes them more endearing than their American counterparts.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I find violent criminals endearing so long as they stay locked up in jail!

High Tea in the Chinese Quarter (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, I'm totally playing devil's advocate.

High Tea in the Chinese Quarter (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey if the Franchies can dig Jerry Lewis I can be amused by their weird attempts to appropriate gypsy culture. Whatever this has to do with Manu Chao I have no idea.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

haha

High Tea in the Chinese Quarter (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

once again, i have to really recommend "Siberie M'etait Contee". There's so little info on this. Is it a proper Manu Chao album? Is it available anywhere in the states?

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Anywhere to legally hear some of this online?

Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Amazon and junk'll have it. It's on the listening at the Tower near me.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Amazon does have it, but it's a "limited edition import" and lists 6 tracks and not much information.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link

um?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link

if, hypothetically people are interested in hearing the "Siberie", maybe email info at jazzinfection dot com? hypothetically.

b'angelo, Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

and, yeah, it seems difficult to find. It is a collaboration w/a french illustrator, i guess there's an accompanying book as well?

b'angelo, Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh sorry to be unclear Alex, I was talking about Siberie.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I got the 'Best Of' which compiles their previous three albums and it is Solid. Very different from the techno-tight Chao production. I'm not sure if either is better than the other, they're both doing different things. I'm listening to them both a lot.

I really like what Chao brought to the new record, I'm fine with toe-tappin' drum machines setting the pulse & extra reverb, it's a strange hybrid. A lot more successful than Chao's solo records (which, like Adam, I can't listen to all the way through).

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 20 October 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Incredible!!! I am totally sold on Amadou & Miriam.
I have purchased all of their albums through iTunes and I hope to be able to purchase more.
I also hope that they return to the U.S. to perform!
I work for an airline and I will travel to any state to see and hear them.
This is REAL music!!!
After being thoroughly immersed in Amadou & Miriam, I can now say that I have experienced a quality sound which is extremely pleasant and excellent!!!

humbug ditto, Saturday, 22 April 2006 07:43 (eighteen years ago) link

This is REAL music!!!
-- humbug ditto (necrofles...), April 22nd, 2006

I like 'em too, but calling them 'real music' presupposes that too many other types of music are not "real" music. I doubt that Amadou & Mariam would use such a term.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Saturday, 22 April 2006 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

26/04/2006 : MIAMI
salle : Artime Theater

28/04/2006 : SAN FRANCISCO
salle : Bimbo's

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 22 April 2006 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I am still mystified as to why ILM didn't jump all over this album. Last night in Millenium Park they had a good few thousand peeps of all colors and ages (including a really cute couple behind me in their 60s or so) on their feet, arms in the air, hips twisting. Amadou is just a smokin' guitarist. Great band. Beautiful night. I only wish I had caught the whole set...

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Friday, 30 June 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Some ILMers did, some others did not for reasons listed above, and some folks just automatically reject all African music as some sort of staid public radio, National Geographic, old people aging hippie music, or as music for Malians or others who do not have English as their first language, but not for them.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Friday, 30 June 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I like it, but it's a little sweet, a little too afro-poppy for me. Just not enough OMG to it.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Friday, 30 June 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I just heard of them, at http://www.amadou-mariam.com/ where they have a couple of videoes . yes it's very poppy but I liked., especially that high envolée in beau dimangche when he sings Les djembés et les n'doulous(?) résonnent partout

S. (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 30 June 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Cool record. The whole transcontinental, multi-culti funk-pop thing usually grates, but "Dimanche a Bamako" transcends all that.

TONS of great tunes, and a surprising amount of variety (love the chanting on "La Réalité" where it sounds like they're saying, "Soul Fire" over and over again). It's light and poppy enuf for summertime dancing & drinking, but the fundamental weight and beauty of the Malian blues base really shines through. Tough tightrope to walk...

Never comes across as weak, watered down, hippified or strictly for the NPR set, either. I mean, it'll certainly appeal very strongly to them fuckers, but it doesn't seem to be a product of their sensibility, or a sop thrown in its direction. Basically, "Dimanche" just sounds natural -- relaxed and joyful in spite of the sometimes heavy-handed mod/pop production.

Truth be told, I could use a little less of Manu Chau on this record. While some of its best moments benefit hugely from his influence ("Caminons Sauvages"), I'd like the album better without borderline-Afro-kitsch tracks like "Sénégal Fast Food" and "Taxi Bamako".

Still, pretty much every tune is instantly appealing, and more than half are durable, out-of-the-park winners. One of the best pure pop albums I've heard in the last few years, no matter what the origins.

P.S. I've heard some of their earlier material, and it hasn't appealed to me nearly as much. Deeper and arguably more "authentic", but the standout tracks are fewer and farther between.

fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Friday, 30 June 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

They were great last night but I think I liked Seu Jorge's set even better. One hell of a great free double-bill though.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 30 June 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

En français pour toi Michel:

http://next.liberation.fr/article/barack-obama-invite-amadou-et-mariam

baaderonixx, Saturday, 29 November 2008 01:11 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

ok seriously what is holding up US release of the new one

what is the problem

admittedly it's a grower, at first it just seemed too redux with only two standout tracks but those tracks were so over the top outstanding I kept going back to the whole thing and all reservations were liquidated -- it's not redux at all, if anything they worked even more in there this time

Milton Parker, Monday, 2 February 2009 07:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Amadou & Mariam’s new album, Welcome to Mali, will be released in the US this March Talk to their US label Nonesuch. Nonesuch just released Rokia Traore's in the US even though it came out last year overseas.

curmudgeon, Monday, 2 February 2009 07:56 (fifteen years ago) link

It's on iTunes. Change your settings from the US (to UK or Canada) maybe?

Lostandfound, Monday, 2 February 2009 08:06 (fifteen years ago) link

For me it was a slow burner... but it turns out Welcome to Mali is a great record. It's surprising ILM didn't give a damn about it.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Agreed. Initial impression was "Pfft, we've heard all this before" - but I think that was a hangover from having played Dimanche A Bamako to death and beyond. I love the last track (as listed on the sleeve, not the hidden bonus track).

Rokia Traore's album also great.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:52 (fifteen years ago) link

This American is still waiting for A & M's March release here. Rokia's in the US on tour now. May go see here next week and need to get the new disc now that it's finally out here

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 13:12 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Cd finally coming out in the US Tuesday March 24. Big New York Times profile in Sunday March 22nd paper.

curmudgeon, Monday, 23 March 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

I really like the cd. They're on tour in the US now. Did Boston the other night and New York tonight. Plus they're on the Jimmy Fallon tv show at 12:35 am or something. Coming to the Birchmere outside DC Wednesday.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.expressnightout.com/content/2009/06/amadou_and_mariam.php World peace via Amadou & mariam says Christopehr Porter, or something like that.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Great one and a half live show at the Birchmere, outside Washington DC last night. A very good percussionist, 2 energetic women dancers/background singers, keyboard, trap drums, and bass plus A & M. Amadou's guitar playing nicely captures Malian styles and psychedelic rock

curmudgeon, Thursday, 11 June 2009 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link

One and a half hour. Mariam's voice is impressive too

curmudgeon, Thursday, 11 June 2009 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link

They're also doing arena shows opening for Coldplay. I wonder what their audience thinks?

curmudgeon, Thursday, 11 June 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

They're also doing arena shows opening for Coldplay. I wonder what their audience thinks?

Time to buy a hot dog.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Thursday, 11 June 2009 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

holy shit I had never heard this sabali song b4! looked them up on youtube just because they were so awesome when I saw them at a festival this summer and i was feelin lonely 4 the friends i saw them with

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Dimache a Bamako is the shit

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes it is.

Si tu parles, tu meurs. Si tu te tais, tu meurs. Alors, dis et (Michael White), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Beautiful.

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Yep

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Just put it on a few weeks ago for a friend who'd never heard it. Don't actually know what he thought of it, but I loved the hell out of it.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

New album is out!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 10:44 (twelve years ago) link

In case you forgot, here's "Dougo Badia" (feat. Nick Zinner & Santigold)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfJ-EmoQil8

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 10:46 (twelve years ago) link

Seen mixed reviews of it, but have not heard it yet myself (well, one song).

NPR is streaming it for a bit

http://www.npr.org/2012/04/01/148919868/first-listen-amadou-and-mariam-folila?ps=mh_fl

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 12:55 (twelve years ago) link

And the Pitchfork review was discussed on a Pitchfork thread

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 12:56 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

i really can't believe dimanche a bamako is 10 years old! that fact is making me feel weird this morning

this is still in my every morning playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH4K-WLpVuo

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Sunday, 13 April 2014 14:59 (ten years ago) link

ok....9 years old. still

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Sunday, 13 April 2014 15:00 (ten years ago) link

Back in 2005 dimanche a bamako was my winter commute to work album, played on some horrendous quarter a gig samsung mp3 player that seemed like good kit at the time. I still love this album but have given up trying work out where the fuck the last decade has gone.

xelab, Sunday, 13 April 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link

I couldn't pick a fave because the album is jam-packed, but this ruled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kp9cmTNaMw

xelab, Sunday, 13 April 2014 21:54 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SJR81-JIwA

calzino, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link


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