Great Animated Movies That Aren't For (Or Aren't Necessarily For) Kids

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrKgyY5aDvA

ogmor, Sunday, 14 November 2010 04:36 (thirteen years ago) link

^w/ amazing terry riley

ogmor, Sunday, 14 November 2010 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Y1PhOt6sM

ogmor, Sunday, 14 November 2010 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link

"you should have had sushi in bombay, it would have been better"

i love how good that is

ogmor, Sunday, 14 November 2010 04:44 (thirteen years ago) link

this thread is awesome!

T-Rex's erotic imagination (Z S), Sunday, 14 November 2010 05:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i was tempted to post yr horse gif but i guess anything <10 seconds isn't a 'movie'

ogmor, Sunday, 14 November 2010 05:29 (thirteen years ago) link

can't overstate how much i'd love to see some of this stuff in the cinema. more john whitney w/ more amazing music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7h0ppnUQhE

ogmor, Sunday, 14 November 2010 05:36 (thirteen years ago) link

the inside of harry smith's head:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh0vVK9LpZU

need to see the full version of this. i'm curious as to how much these early guys knew each other's work.

ogmor, Sunday, 14 November 2010 06:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Bill Plympton's I Married a Strange Person and Mutant Aliens. prefer the former, but they're both pretty terrific.

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Sunday, 14 November 2010 06:07 (thirteen years ago) link

an animated companion to the human centipede

HEEEELLLLLLLOOOOOOOO new screen name

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 14 November 2010 06:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Trying to find clips, zanything on a Bulgarian animated short called "Konservfilm", which I saw on Ch4 years and years ago. It shows this weird dystopian society, inhabited by tins of fruit(!) Every so often there is a coup, and all of the fruit tins have to change their labels from strawberres to okra or whatever. The humour is v twisted, and at times it is quite tragic. towards the end of the film, the little cans:

http://www.bgmovies.info/images/movies/Konservfilm_1990.jpg

...seem to take on this air of pitiful endless martyrdom, it's hard to explain w/o seeing it, really. It's, I guess, moving.

the above image is the only pic I could find, I could find no ref to it on google video, imdb has a page w/a couple of user reviews, so I guess it exists, and someone else saw it besides me. If anyone knows of anywhere this thing can be located, let me know plz, I'd love to see it again.

Pashmina, Sunday, 14 November 2010 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Love Whitney's Arabesque - saw it a few years ago at a warehouse cinema and it was absolutely fantastic.

Also want to third When the Wind Blows - horribly moving/frightening post-nuclear bomb drop animation from the creator of The Snowman.

Although: Its one of those movies that leaves it very ambiguous as to if and when the characters die in it.
They die. Sorry about that.

Channel 4 used to show loads of adult-oriented adult shorts during night-time programming, but this is the only one that stands out in my memory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3GJmkUZlyo

emil.y, Sunday, 14 November 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

*adult-oriented animated shorts

emil.y, Sunday, 14 November 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0Rj7nn0ZVs the trailer doesn't really do it justice but this movie is terrific and yeah, the review calling it a hitchcock anime film is otm.

hoy orbison (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 14 November 2010 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

just saw on youtube an animated CGI clip of dolphins -- temporarily -- saving surfers from a shark attack. one of my biggest fears brought to life, via animtion (tho CGI-technology isn't the type of animation i was referring to).

i'm going to check out each of these clips movies (viewed many already). also: lots of cool russian animation films, e.g., the cow (a "paint-on-glass" technique?) and the glass harmonica (tbf, i've skimmed both of these, so i can't vouch for them in full or promise they're free of offensive content).

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 14 November 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Just watched The Cow the other day, actually, it's really beautiful.

emil.y, Sunday, 14 November 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Everything by Ladislaw Starewicz, here's The Cameraman's Revenge :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIC0Sb6pLvI

Blackening Electrical Connections (Matt #2), Sunday, 14 November 2010 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Cool World and Bebe's Kids are two of my guilty pleasures because I grew up watching them on cable. Not that they're necessarily great by any means, but they are entertaining on a campy level.

That's not a "laugh track", it's an audience and you're in it. (MintIce), Sunday, 14 November 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Two that are probably aimed at kids but which probably connect just as much, if not more, with adults: Nausicaa (as do many of Miyazaki's films for that matter), and Wall-E, which undoubtedly got much inspiration from Miyazaki as well.

Sean Carruthers, Sunday, 14 November 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

check out all the films of Satoshi Kon who passed away only a few months ago
dude was amazing
* Perfect Blue
* Millennium Actress
* Tokyo Godfathers
* Paranoia Agent
* Paprika

forksclovetofu, Sunday, 14 November 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

miyazaki has earned widespread affection now, lupin is the most adult & good fun too. another anime i really enjoyed was tekkonkinkreet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gWxUVcXyPA

ogmor, Sunday, 14 November 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

also i'm seriously jealous of emily's big screen whitney viewing

ogmor, Sunday, 14 November 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Me too. Best thrift store find of the year for me was "Digital Harmony: On the Complementarity of Music and Visual Art" by John Whitney. Features lots of great full-color stills of his stuff, very detailed explanations of how he made his motion graphics, and even a BASIC program at the end!

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 14 November 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Really sad that his films are still unreleased on DVD. Would <3 for the Whitney family to have a McLaren-sized box set release. Or at least a nice sampler. Same for Harry Smith and Jordan Belson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANliclGDsDY&playnext=1&list=PL89FCD63D82A840C4&index=5

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 14 November 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

"The Happy Prince" from 1974 - it is what it is, but something about the way it's done still destroys me by the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqYIQ_41RTo&playnext=1&list=PL59048CB16AA9B873&index=8

Kim, Sunday, 14 November 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Major cosine to satoshi kon reccomendaysh

irritable bol syndrome (s1ocki), Sunday, 14 November 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

As posted on exp. film thread but apt for this one too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMY-3Wg3eE0&feature=player_embedded#!

The Beatles (admrl), Sunday, 14 November 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link

i didn't even know there was an experimental film thread! thanks. that video is cool, too.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 14 November 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

avant-garde, experimental, surreal film

The Beatles (admrl), Sunday, 14 November 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

a couple of interesting films from down under to check out: "Mary & Max", and "$9.99".

The latter freaked me out more than it probably intended.

The Great Cool Lulu who sleeps in Riley... (dog latin), Monday, 15 November 2010 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

lots of stuff to check here, wow.

waltz with bashir is one of my favourite films in memory really, i've seen it about 10 times and would watch it another 10. is there anything specifically like that? people say persepolis but it isn't really that similar...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 15 November 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i've never read/heard anyone say persepolis is like WWB. both great, but totally different, in animation style at least (both have a pretty somber tone tbf).

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 15 November 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Ronan, not an animation, but you could do worse than check out the comics of Joe Sacco maybe? I've just discovered him and his cartoon-reportage on Palestine/Israel is fab!

The Great Cool Lulu who sleeps in Riley... (dog latin), Monday, 15 November 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

haha I was going to rec the same thing. Palestine and Safe Area Gorazde are both great. Perseoplis was a good movie but comparing it to Waltz w/Bashir seems a little...unimaginative.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 15 November 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah totally, i sort of knew that when people compared. i can't stress how much i liked waltz with bashir, it's like my personal ideal film.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 15 November 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i saw some of joe sacco's stuff and sort of read the covers when i worked in a bookstore back in 07, always found it interesting. it's sort of weird, i've never really known anything about graphic novels or animated films, but i am pretty sure i really like them based on the tiny few that permeate the mainstream which i end up seeing and liking.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 15 November 2010 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

dunno if it's been listed yet, really enjoyed 9. Probably adolescent aimed.

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Monday, 15 November 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

i love this stuff, wish there was more out there...

Fear(s) of the Dark / Peur(s) du noir is cool. love the animated Charles Burns.

Grave of the Fireflies is devastating, adult anime though it's about kids (orphans surviving in WWII Japan).

and i'll stan for both American Pop and Heavy Metal, warts'n'boobies'n'all

very wary hairy Barry (herb albert), Monday, 15 November 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

and Time Masters is like the animated Metal Hurlant - adult sci-fi from Moebius and the director of Fantastic Planet

very wary hairy Barry (herb albert), Monday, 15 November 2010 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man, I saw part of Time Masters once. It was fucking crazy! OTOH I was on mushrooms but I'm pretty sure the movie was still crazy.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 15 November 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Wings of Honneamise or however it's spelled
sacco recommendations: the fixer, palestine and footnotes in gaza are all required reading.

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 04:03 (thirteen years ago) link

and 2nd the recommendation of time masters. like everything i've seen by laloux, though. fantastic planet especially, but light years, too.

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 06:17 (thirteen years ago) link

so many good suggestions here. i've only begun to work my way through them.

we saw megamind this weekend. clearly geared for kids, but some stuff for adults, too! especially the cool soundtrack. best bit was the use of g-n'-r's welcome to the jungle at the beginning of the big battle scene.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 27 November 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel like stop motion guys like Bros. Quay and Jan Svankmajer belong on here. My youngest brother reminded me that I let him watch "Alice" with me when he was seven. "You're the one responsible for ruining my mind!"

― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Saturday, November 13, 2010 11:27 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

Yeah, Svankmajer and the Quays absolutely. Surprised more people aren't repping them ITT. I think you can watch a bunch of Svankmajer stuff free or cheap on here:

http://mubi.com/cast_members/458

Bakshi's great. Shakey linked to The Complete Ralph Bakshi in the other thread, and it's really one of the best animation related books you could ever read.

A couple other things that spring to mind:

Marquis, French live action/stop motion blend about the Marquis de Sade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcc9E_r_wTw

Isao Takahatao's Omohide Poro Poro or Only Yesterday - there's really nothing else exactly like this in anime, from an animation or storytelling perspective. It's a contemplative, expressionistic story about a 27-year old woman reflecting on her childhood, family and future. I believe there's no official release in the United States due to references to menstruation, but shouldn't be hard to find a region-free copy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9WNAcPcIGY

Disgraced Homo Cop (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 28 November 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I think Marquis has a scene where a lobster is stuffed in someone's butt. Haven't seen it in 20 years so the details, while traumatizing, may be slightly off. One of only a handful of movies I've ever walked out on.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 28 November 2010 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/MeMTN.gif

Disgraced Homo Cop (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 28 November 2010 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty sure I need to see this

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Sunday, 28 November 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link

that's a prosthetic i'm sure of it.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 28 November 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I just watched Mia and the Migoo and I am pretty sure it is FOR kids. I say this because it was just painfully didactic with the most and worst explainy dialogue! But it looked really good. Maybe one to turn the sound off & light a J at home.

I'll show you the power of laughter! (Abbbottt), Sunday, 26 June 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

Probably the best thing about it was the colors + the nice impressionistic backdrops – hard to find pics that show that tho

http://static.euronews.net/images_old/08/W300px_cinema-MiaMigou.jpg

I'll show you the power of laughter! (Abbbottt), Sunday, 26 June 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

I saw a dubbed version & I would like to think maybe the translation is what made the dialogue so unbearably bad – but I doubt it!

I'll show you the power of laughter! (Abbbottt), Sunday, 26 June 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

One of the claymation pieces I love from the Tournee of Animation I mentioned upthread is up. Csaba Varga, Luncheon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMzx_e6l0cM

frogbs went a-courtin' (WmC), Sunday, 26 June 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

akira

cozen, Sunday, 26 June 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

five years pass...

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