I have pretty good audio equipment and it sounds good. the layers will get separated by good sound equipment, but yeah it can def sound mushy the lower you go on the sound equipment scale.
I was impressed by the drum sounds on lost in the world
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 06:19 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that was definitely one of the better sounding songs to me. although i'm pretty tired of all of kanye's uptempo songs having an airy PSHHHH snare sound.
― deej otm? (some dude), Saturday, 13 November 2010 06:27 (thirteen years ago) link
"rapist known as freedom freed doom"
-_-
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― swagl (dayo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 06:45 (thirteen years ago) link
"abomination of obama's nation"
-0-
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 06:46 (thirteen years ago) link
reupholstered pussy buffet
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 06:47 (thirteen years ago) link
I think some of these songs are the equivalent of bacon wrapped corn dogs deep fried in butter w/ french fries stapled to the sides. they sound really good but are exhausting to listen to. think runaway works so well because the arrangement is relatively spare & simple.
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 06:55 (thirteen years ago) link
so what you're saying is all the songs should be 9 minutes long
― Simon H., Saturday, 13 November 2010 07:12 (thirteen years ago) link
the single version of runaway I downloaded a month ago is much better than the album version
― dayo, Saturday, 13 November 2010 07:21 (thirteen years ago) link
hood phenomenonthe lebron of rhyme
^^i think this makes waaaaaay more sense than kanye realizes
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 07:37 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd put "devil in a new dress" up w/ the top 10 songs off all his albums
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 07:43 (thirteen years ago) link
where is the nabisco review btw, couldn't see it on pf
― hoy orbison (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 November 2010 07:45 (thirteen years ago) link
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/11/filthy_rich_kanye_wests_royal.html
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 07:47 (thirteen years ago) link
cheers
― hoy orbison (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 November 2010 07:48 (thirteen years ago) link
kanye really is the worst lyricist working in rap today
― dayo, Saturday, 13 November 2010 08:07 (thirteen years ago) link
nah -- even in his sphere of super popular pop stars, he's a much better lyricist right now than wayne or drake
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 08:09 (thirteen years ago) link
& lyrics are much more important to the success of the music of both of those two
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 08:11 (thirteen years ago) link
I judge kanye differently; he wants to make world changing music but his rapping is just...
I mean drake and weezy are just tryna have a good time you know
― dayo, Saturday, 13 November 2010 08:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm not gonna reward laziness
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 08:19 (thirteen years ago) link
so appalled, spalding ball
― dayo, Saturday, 13 November 2010 08:25 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm not gonna defend "so appalled"
nor am i gonna defend kanye's lyrics, altho he's better on this album than i previous thought and/or anticipated
but i will defend him vs the lyrics of lil wayne & drake
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 08:26 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean do you really want me to start posting lil wayne lyrics in here cuz his whole career since the carter III has been "so appalled, spalding ball"
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 08:27 (thirteen years ago) link
just feel there's a massive disconnect between the gravitas of kanyes production and the lyrics
― dayo, Saturday, 13 November 2010 08:43 (thirteen years ago) link
gonna invent a new genre to categorize this album: prog rap
i don't disagree xp
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 08:43 (thirteen years ago) link
also, I dunno, kanyes delivery just makes me feel he's self consciously clever and impressed with himselfover his shitty puns
― dayo, Saturday, 13 November 2010 08:50 (thirteen years ago) link
You mean like in Gorgeous?
'cause those same people trying to blackball me/forgot about two things/my black bals
― Josh L, Saturday, 13 November 2010 09:41 (thirteen years ago) link
that line is dope tho
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link
'cause those same people trying to leak nude photos of me/forgot about two things/my black balls
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link
otm, and his delivery.
― otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 November 2010 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah the way he leans into his worst lines and shouts them is a lot of what makes him such a worse rapper than even he was a few years ago imo. most of these songs have like 8 solid inspired bars and then he just gets lazy and starts spitting garbage for the rest of the song. he should just go all the way Diddy with it and get ghostwriters.
― deej otm? (some dude), Saturday, 13 November 2010 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link
soon rick ross is gonna be writing every major label rap album
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i really prefer devil in a new dress w/o the rick ross verse
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 13 November 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link
that's insane, his verse is really incredible imo
― The Brainwasher² = (The Brainwasher) X (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 13 November 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
"chain heavy" is kind of unnecessary esp w/ kweli & consequence verses, but it's pretty much worth it just for "i'm the day that ice cube met michael jackson"
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link
also i think gucci would've sued him for stealing a chorus
they definitely could've made the Ross verse on "Devil" feel less tacked on, there's kind of a pause and it feels like the song's ending and then he just shows up
― deej otm? (some dude), Saturday, 13 November 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link
yea plus it's weird to hear ross over a soul beat imo. idk im not a huge rick ross fan tbqh
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 13 November 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
there have been plenty of soul beats on Ross albums, even a Bink production
― deej otm? (some dude), Saturday, 13 November 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
ross' last couple albums have been like 75% soul beats?
― dark side of the goon (The Reverend), Saturday, 13 November 2010 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link
definitely my favourite kanye west album, with the caveat that i have never really liked kanye west as a rapper, so i'm not as concerned abt whether he dropped off or not because its always just been ignoreable & occasionally lol to me. and perhaps more importantly have never cared enough to listen to any of the earlier albums around the time they came out, besides 808s (which is my 2nd favourite).
anyway this album is just so hilarious and relentlessly entertaining. he is so dedicated to making everything really BIG and dramatic and then he deflates it all with like, "i sent this girl a picture of my di-ick." just the melodies and arrangements make me laugh. i think i might like the 30 film even better cause fuck a lot of these guest verses. feel like a lot of the more negative criticisms are coming from people who have taken him seriously at some point in time but he's always been a huge clown and cornball to me, & this is just the ultimate expression of all of his excesses
― haute couture wolf gang frill them all (samosa gibreel), Sunday, 14 November 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess, man. i mean even when i 'took him seriously' it was as an artist who had a lot of humor (intentional and otherwise) in his music. i think as his puns have gotten more eyerolling i laugh more at him than with him, though.
― deej otm (some dude), Sunday, 14 November 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess also it is debatable whether i am being an ironic fuck or not, but i really do get tonnes of pleasure and entertainment out of this, the humour is inextricably woven into the goodness. i guess i prefer laughing at him, though
― haute couture wolf gang frill them all (samosa gibreel), Sunday, 14 November 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link
rick ross verse may be my fav verse on the whole album
― ciderpress, Sunday, 14 November 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that rick ross verse is killer. who's ghostwriting for him now? also it's lol considering how shitty the one on 'monster' is
do kanye beats get mixtaped a lot? would love to hear other rappers freestyle on em
― dayo, Monday, 15 November 2010 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link
some songs more than others, but yeah, totally. not sure what ones on this album are gonna get remixed a lot besides "Monster" and "Power" and "So Appalled," though.
― deej otm (some dude), Monday, 15 November 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I always lol at the clean version of "Monster" turning Rick Ross' "FAT MOTHERFUCKER" into "FAT Fat fat fat..."
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link
yes that's excellent
― Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
so does anybody see kanye charting any of these songs in the top 10?
― dayo, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes.
― otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link
which ones?
― dayo, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link