Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy

Yeah, but, deej, it's clear nabisco admires it FOR those qualities despite reservations, whereas I don't admire it and have lots of them.

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This -

The constant push for more sometimes makes the album feel bloated and indulgent, or like it’s too interested in turning hip-hop into moody art music;

- coincides with my feelings about Graduation, the last time I cared about him.

i dont think you read the review then

― whats goin on witchu iron mane (deej), Friday, November 12, 2010 9:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

was agreeing with alfred's post describing his take on the record, not re: the review. although the review, while it had good parts, i can't say resonated with me beyond just my opinion on the quality of the record.

haha status on fb:

J**** D**** after years of saying he was a genius who could compete with the likes of Radiohead, Kanye West has finally become just that. What an album.

to which I responded

didn't think he could make an album that sucks as hard as in rainbows but here we are...

promptly deleted. love trolling.

The increasing navel-gazing is generally a bummer, but I'm sort of in awe at how he's able to fold such a diverse set of samples and ideas into a pretty cohesive sound. If his lyrics were half as generous as his beats, he'd blow (more) minds. That said, I'm really enjoying the record overall - hell, the guy even makes Fergie sound good.

looooool xp

I love Cudi's bit on "Gorgeous" (he sounds menacing and attractive in a way Kanye can't mimic)

fuck outta here with this

this is like an audiophile test record, like people will play it to show off how awesome their system sounds but nobody will actually listen to this for pleasure

i think the sequencing is pretty fine, but the massive posse cuts kind of do throw off the flow of things -- like i think has pretty much been judicious and spot on w/ his guests dating all the way back to college dropout, but this one is like "oh hey another jay-z verse sandwiched in here", "oh hey it's the rza", nicki kinda steals the show there for a minute -- it's just a bit odd

i will listen to this for pleasure, also i don't have a soundsystem

what the hell are these shouty parts added to runaway

to clarify, i like cudi's bit on "gorgeous" too, but saying that he's "menacing and attractive in a way that kanye can't mimic" is, to borrow a phrase, twaddle

wtf at runaway being an 8 minute long guitar noodle fest now

wait what

did he get trey from phish to guest

As ever I love nabisco's prose and thought, but I have no idea what the record sounds like or if I'd like it.

Pretty sure I am just gonna uncheck "So Appalled" at all times. Hate the Swizz + Jay parts especially.

i kinda like the so appalled beat but its a weird choice of beat to use for a posse cut imo

this is a ponderous album

this is like an audiophile test record, like people will play it to show off how awesome their system sounds but nobody will actually listen to this for pleasure

― swagl (dayo), Saturday, November 13, 2010 12:04 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i wonder how 'good' this actually sounds to an audiophile, though, compared to other rap or just in general. it feels to me like there's a lot of layers and a lot of stuff in the mix but i'm not really dazzled by the texture or the clarity or anything (especially compared to Late Registration), and i kinda wonder if this is one of those records where everything being made and heard on expensive studio monitors kinda made them think it would sound like a million bucks but on the average regular person's stereo it's nothing special.

I have pretty good audio equipment and it sounds good. the layers will get separated by good sound equipment, but yeah it can def sound mushy the lower you go on the sound equipment scale.

I was impressed by the drum sounds on lost in the world

yeah that was definitely one of the better sounding songs to me. although i'm pretty tired of all of kanye's uptempo songs having an airy PSHHHH snare sound.

"rapist known as freedom freed doom"

-_-

― swagl (dayo), Saturday, November 13, 2010 2:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

"abomination of obama's nation"

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reupholstered pussy buffet

I think some of these songs are the equivalent of bacon wrapped corn dogs deep fried in butter w/ french fries stapled to the sides. they sound really good but are exhausting to listen to. think runaway works so well because the arrangement is relatively spare & simple.

so what you're saying is all the songs should be 9 minutes long

the single version of runaway I downloaded a month ago is much better than the album version

hood phenomenon
the lebron of rhyme

^^i think this makes waaaaaay more sense than kanye realizes

i'd put "devil in a new dress" up w/ the top 10 songs off all his albums

where is the nabisco review btw, couldn't see it on pf

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/11/filthy_rich_kanye_wests_royal.html

cheers

kanye really is the worst lyricist working in rap today

nah -- even in his sphere of super popular pop stars, he's a much better lyricist right now than wayne or drake

& lyrics are much more important to the success of the music of both of those two

I judge kanye differently; he wants to make world changing music but his rapping is just...

I mean drake and weezy are just tryna have a good time you know

i'm not gonna reward laziness

so appalled, spalding ball

i'm not gonna defend "so appalled"

nor am i gonna defend kanye's lyrics, altho he's better on this album than i previous thought and/or anticipated

but i will defend him vs the lyrics of lil wayne & drake

i mean do you really want me to start posting lil wayne lyrics in here cuz his whole career since the carter III has been "so appalled, spalding ball"

just feel there's a massive disconnect between the gravitas of kanyes production and the lyrics

gonna invent a new genre to categorize this album: prog rap

i don't disagree xp

also, I dunno, kanyes delivery just makes me feel he's self consciously clever and impressed with himself
over his shitty puns

You mean like in Gorgeous?

'cause those same people trying to blackball me/forgot about two things/my black bals

that line is dope tho

'cause those same people trying to leak nude photos of me/forgot about two things/my black balls

just feel there's a massive disconnect between the gravitas of kanyes production and the lyrics

otm, and his delivery.