Will there be vinyl?
― kwhitehead, Monday, 8 November 2010 22:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
According to Ian, no. (This was asked and answered above...)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 November 2010 22:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
Ned, just got my copy that Ian kindly sent me. I am at work and couldn't wait to get home to listen. I am at my desk, headphones in and I am not doing much work.
It sounds sonically stunning hearing these tracks on a proper CD for the first time.
A review will appear here http://crumbsinthebutter.art.officelive.com/default.aspx
very soon!
― crumbsinthebutter, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 13:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
I can't but agree to all that.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 13:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'm looking at that cover and all I'm seeing is a stickman running up the inner curve of that soundwave. Tell me it ain't so...
― Sméagol-Eye Cherry (NickB), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 13:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
I have only had one look at my copy and that isn't a stick man. Looks more like a crack in a building.
― crumbsinthebutter, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 13:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
Stickman it ain't. Just some farm/building complex in the original shot.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 13:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
And writing a review of this is going to be hard, as I have far too much excitement running through my head at the moment to remain sentient!
― crumbsinthebutter, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 13:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
And all was well with the world. xp
― Sméagol-Eye Cherry (NickB), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 14:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
In a weird way, I'm actually very glad I *don't* have to write a review of this. I'm interested to hear others' takes.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 14:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
Ned, are you sure you don't want to? hahaIt is going to be a challenge but I suppose I should just say what I have been saying about this band for so long!
― crumbsinthebutter, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 14:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
Actually, here's an idea.
Maybe we could get the people from this thread to write a little about this release and we could make that into a review.
If not, it is down to me to spew forth vignettes of loveliness!
― crumbsinthebutter, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 14:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
Meantime the forthcoming issue of Yeti, now available for pre-order:
http://yetipublishing.com/
...features an article of mine on the band and my fandom. Might be of interest to some here so I just wanted to let folks know about it!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 November 2010 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
?
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 12:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
Oddly you can already buy it from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/5-Eps-Disco-Inferno/dp/B00424PF1E/
'Temporarily out of stock'
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 12:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
Still due sometime in the next few months, am checking on any further word.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
I know I have all these songs, but I still want this.
― Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:40 (2 years ago) Permalink
It will come.
Also wanted to remind everyone about that Yeti issue I linked a few posts back.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 February 2011 18:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
i love that article ned!
― 69, Monday, 7 February 2011 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
Thanks!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 February 2011 20:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
Unless various searches mislead me, I'm surprised no ILM poster has ever gone for an "In Snarky Water" pun.
― EDB, Monday, 7 February 2011 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
I have word of a formal release date -- Sept. 12.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 May 2011 13:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
yesssss
― ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
going back to the thread start:
* Its current release date is September via One Little Indian
clearly Ned was right all along about September, just never told us 2011, right? ;)
― ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
Mm.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
Pitchfork going to be 10.0ing this bitch and hoovering up all of Ned's cred.
― Hazy, Monday, 16 May 2011 15:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
What matters is the music gets heard. The rest is gravy.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 May 2011 15:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
i hear Ned is going to guest-review this for Pfork, give it a 10.0 and baffle all the Sleigh Bells-loving hipsters
― ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Monday, 16 May 2011 15:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
day after my birthday! :D
― spätzle logic (donna rouge), Monday, 16 May 2011 16:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
Okay folks, it took way longer than I ever figured but!
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Disco Inferno‘The 5 Eps’ released 12/09/11One Little IndianCD + Digital Cat. No. tplp1082cd/ tplp1082dl"We're hated... and the reason we're hated is that we're 'pretentious' enough to try for something"Ian Crause, quoted in Melody Maker, March 5, 1994“The whole is much greater than the sum of it’s parts… one of the most creative uses of sampling I’ve ever heard. It sounds like the future. I’m still figuring out just how cool they are.”Ben Goldwasser, MGMT quoted in Q Magazine, January 2011Almost entirely out on their own, out of step with the times, Disco Inferno were widely ignored and underappreciated during their (pre-internet) existence. Remaining largely unknown beyond a small but slowly expanding cult of devotees, they were probably the most ambitious and isolated band of the '90s. Over the three-year span (1992-95) that this compilation covers, they were also quite simply, jaw-droppingly great - a virtually peerless group mining a steady stream of uncompromising, pioneering recordings. One of the first wave of 'post-rock' acts (and perhaps it’s ultimate example), they combined avant-garde aesthetics with a basis in solid pop hooks, credibly depicting suburban alienation and national decay through embittered, intelligent lyrics.Whilst it's now almost second nature for a band to incorporate digital technology into their armoury, you'd struggle to find anyone who went anything like as far as DI. In 1992, they took the quantum leap from their modest beginnings to totally rewire themselves and become the most radical, forward-thinking guitar band on the planet, with a revolutionary sample-based approach that was simply years ahead of the curve. Whilst numerous acts were making use of the sampler and MIDI technology, no other band integrated it so thoroughly into the process. DI didn't simply tack on a dance beat or spice things up with the addition of a few novel sonics or quirky quotations. The technology was hard-wired into the very heart of their music. Veering between the deeply challenging and the downright catchy, they continually attempted to push themselves forwards, resulting in two unrivalled albums and a dazzling collection of EPs that consistently redefined the boundaries.Track-listed chronologically, this compilation gathers together for the first time all five long-out-of-print EPs which were originally released between 1992–95*, a period bookended by their radical rebooted re-emergence in Autumn 1992 and their depressingly premature demise in Spring 1995. Whilst these tracks were never originally conceived to fit together as a coherent whole, the compilation nevertheless functions perfectly as a sequential overview of the band’s development and the sheer breadth of ideas they explored. Even when comprising just two tracks, these releases were clearly construed as EPs, rather than singles in the established, album-marketing sense. Only one of them ('It's A Kid's World') was actually taken from an album. Regularly clocking in at between six and eight minutes long, each track received equal billing. There were no below-par b-sides, no dead weight. The release of each EP (on both CD and 12" vinyl) set down a fresh marker, became the latest in a series of stepping stones leading further out in creative investigation of a set of different angles / approaches. As though functioning as the experimental R&D for the two albums, they didn't just raise the bar for themselves, but consistently rewrote the ground-rules. They never dwelt on a formula, but continuously strove to push forwards exploring new possibilities.Regardless of the injustices of history, DI were without doubt a trailblazing, unique, utterly important band. With huge ambition and integrity, they rejected the easy routes and rewards. Setting themselves directly against the stylistic regression and rabble-rousing bluster dominating Britpop and grunge, against the bland facelessness of so much of the dance / electronic scene, DI ought to have been widely championed as an antidote, a vital blast of nonconformist bravery and brilliance. In reality they received very little coverage. Buried away for way too long, their recorded legacy continues to offer revelations to the open-eared and actively inquisitive. Whilst it may have been their curse to have been overlooked throughout and long past their short existence, the chances of some overdue recognition rescuing them from the limbo of obscurity have nonetheless recently risen. In 2004, One Little Indian reissued both Rough Trade albums, targeting in particular the US market, where 'Technicolour' had never previously been released ('Go Pop' had been licensed to US indie Bar-None back in 1994, but inevitably achieved minimal sales), and where the band had never toured. The notoriously low-marking Pitchfork site's 9.3/10 review of the 'Go Pop' reissue resulted in a swell of activity across internet message boards, and appears to have left a continued wake of interest. Certainly more popular now than they were during their creative peak, you might detect either direct influence or certain similarities in the likes of The Third Eye Foundation, Hood, Epic45, Piano Magic, Deerhunter (particularly offshoot projects, Lotus Plaza and Atlas Sound), Matmos, Animal Collective, Black Dice, The Avalanches, The Books, Battles, and No Age. But no-one has really come close to replicating their awesome output and utterly singular aesthetic. Whilst digital music technology has evolved dramatically, becoming smaller, faster, cheaper, and consequently far more widespread, Disco Inferno's inspired approach and consequent sound seems unlikely to ever be reproduced without seriously compromising its futurist spirit. Littered as pop history is with unsung heroes and buried brilliance, few bands are so deserving of such recovery as Disco Inferno.*The original Eps were: Summer's Last Sound (Cheree, 1992)/ A Rock To Cling To (Rough Trade, 1993)/ The Last Dance (Rough Trade, 1993)/ Second Language (Rough Trade, 1994)/ It's a Kid's World (Rough Trade, 1994)
"We're hated... and the reason we're hated is that we're 'pretentious' enough to try for something"Ian Crause, quoted in Melody Maker, March 5, 1994
“The whole is much greater than the sum of it’s parts… one of the most creative uses of sampling I’ve ever heard. It sounds like the future. I’m still figuring out just how cool they are.”Ben Goldwasser, MGMT quoted in Q Magazine, January 2011
Almost entirely out on their own, out of step with the times, Disco Inferno were widely ignored and underappreciated during their (pre-internet) existence. Remaining largely unknown beyond a small but slowly expanding cult of devotees, they were probably the most ambitious and isolated band of the '90s. Over the three-year span (1992-95) that this compilation covers, they were also quite simply, jaw-droppingly great - a virtually peerless group mining a steady stream of uncompromising, pioneering recordings. One of the first wave of 'post-rock' acts (and perhaps it’s ultimate example), they combined avant-garde aesthetics with a basis in solid pop hooks, credibly depicting suburban alienation and national decay through embittered, intelligent lyrics.
Whilst it's now almost second nature for a band to incorporate digital technology into their armoury, you'd struggle to find anyone who went anything like as far as DI. In 1992, they took the quantum leap from their modest beginnings to totally rewire themselves and become the most radical, forward-thinking guitar band on the planet, with a revolutionary sample-based approach that was simply years ahead of the curve. Whilst numerous acts were making use of the sampler and MIDI technology, no other band integrated it so thoroughly into the process. DI didn't simply tack on a dance beat or spice things up with the addition of a few novel sonics or quirky quotations. The technology was hard-wired into the very heart of their music. Veering between the deeply challenging and the downright catchy, they continually attempted to push themselves forwards, resulting in two unrivalled albums and a dazzling collection of EPs that consistently redefined the boundaries.
Track-listed chronologically, this compilation gathers together for the first time all five long-out-of-print EPs which were originally released between 1992–95*, a period bookended by their radical rebooted re-emergence in Autumn 1992 and their depressingly premature demise in Spring 1995. Whilst these tracks were never originally conceived to fit together as a coherent whole, the compilation nevertheless functions perfectly as a sequential overview of the band’s development and the sheer breadth of ideas they explored. Even when comprising just two tracks, these releases were clearly construed as EPs, rather than singles in the established, album-marketing sense. Only one of them ('It's A Kid's World') was actually taken from an album. Regularly clocking in at between six and eight minutes long, each track received equal billing. There were no below-par b-sides, no dead weight. The release of each EP (on both CD and 12" vinyl) set down a fresh marker, became the latest in a series of stepping stones leading further out in creative investigation of a set of different angles / approaches. As though functioning as the experimental R&D for the two albums, they didn't just raise the bar for themselves, but consistently rewrote the ground-rules. They never dwelt on a formula, but continuously strove to push forwards exploring new possibilities.
Regardless of the injustices of history, DI were without doubt a trailblazing, unique, utterly important band. With huge ambition and integrity, they rejected the easy routes and rewards. Setting themselves directly against the stylistic regression and rabble-rousing bluster dominating Britpop and grunge, against the bland facelessness of so much of the dance / electronic scene, DI ought to have been widely championed as an antidote, a vital blast of nonconformist bravery and brilliance. In reality they received very little coverage. Buried away for way too long, their recorded legacy continues to offer revelations to the open-eared and actively inquisitive. Whilst it may have been their curse to have been overlooked throughout and long past their short existence, the chances of some overdue recognition rescuing them from the limbo of obscurity have nonetheless recently risen. In 2004, One Little Indian reissued both Rough Trade albums, targeting in particular the US market, where 'Technicolour' had never previously been released ('Go Pop' had been licensed to US indie Bar-None back in 1994, but inevitably achieved minimal sales), and where the band had never toured. The notoriously low-marking Pitchfork site's 9.3/10 review of the 'Go Pop' reissue resulted in a swell of activity across internet message boards, and appears to have left a continued wake of interest. Certainly more popular now than they were during their creative peak, you might detect either direct influence or certain similarities in the likes of The Third Eye Foundation, Hood, Epic45, Piano Magic, Deerhunter (particularly offshoot projects, Lotus Plaza and Atlas Sound), Matmos, Animal Collective, Black Dice, The Avalanches, The Books, Battles, and No Age. But no-one has really come close to replicating their awesome output and utterly singular aesthetic. Whilst digital music technology has evolved dramatically, becoming smaller, faster, cheaper, and consequently far more widespread, Disco Inferno's inspired approach and consequent sound seems unlikely to ever be reproduced without seriously compromising its futurist spirit. Littered as pop history is with unsung heroes and buried brilliance, few bands are so deserving of such recovery as Disco Inferno.
*The original Eps were: Summer's Last Sound (Cheree, 1992)/ A Rock To Cling To (Rough Trade, 1993)/ The Last Dance (Rough Trade, 1993)/ Second Language (Rough Trade, 1994)/ It's a Kid's World (Rough Trade, 1994)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 July 2011 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
w00t!
― dog latrine (NickB), Thursday, 14 July 2011 17:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
That press release is hilarious. They think they're some pretty hot shit, don't they?
― everything, Thursday, 14 July 2011 20:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Whatever OLI wants to do, I figure.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 July 2011 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
fuck it. It's all true.
Loving DI Go Pop just right now. Very loud.
― kraudive, Thursday, 14 July 2011 22:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
That's September, right? Not December? Right?!
― Phill Nilbog (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 15 July 2011 04:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Correct.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 04:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
The notoriously low-marking Pitchfork site's 9.3/10 review of the 'Go Pop' reissue resulted in a swell of activity across internet message boards, and appears to have left a continued wake of interest.
o_O
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Saturday, 16 July 2011 01:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
This is incredible news, and I missed this thread until today (I was away from ILM for years). I still treasure the CDR Ned made me so many years ago; it contains some of the most gorgeous moments in my entire music collection (or anyone's!). It doesn't fit as neatly into the whole post-rock pioneers / sampler-wielding narrative, but I LOVE the earliest JD/Durutti morose delay pedal exercises sooooo much. If you haven't heard In Debt, you really have to.
― Clarke B., Saturday, 16 July 2011 17:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
still havent myself. i love everything else though!
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 22 July 2011 03:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm glad these are finally coming out since I sold off my originals on ebay the second ned announced this was happening...what, 2 years ago?
― akm, Friday, 22 July 2011 03:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ha, not THAT bad. A year, three months, but yeah, longer than anticipated. Just a couple of months now...
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 July 2011 04:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
hey ned. i've got the head over heels and the elemental eps, but is there any other ian crause material out there? i read something a few years ago where he said he was planning to release some new stuff, but haven't heard anything since. figured you might know.
― zingzing, Sunday, 7 August 2011 04:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Sorry for the delay -- there's nothing formally available but he is working on solo work again. I've been lucky enough to hear a brief snippet but since he's still fine-tuning what he would like it to be I'd be hesitant to go into details. If it turns out to be what he hopes for it'll be quite remarkable; it's very recognizably 'him' without either being DI or the solo work.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 17:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
thanks for the update. the thing i read (which i can't find for the life of me, but it was some comments he left on a blog,) made it sound like he was very ambitious about it. i can't quite recall what he said, but i think he said something about a double (or triple) album. i could very well be wrong though.
― zingzing, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
That's about right; it's certainly a pretty ambitious project given not only its relative length but how he'd like it to be heard. We shall see!
Meantime I've had a chance to see a layout of the CD booklet in full. A month to go!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 14:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
Tom E. on the reissue and the band in the Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/aug/11/disco-inferno-reissue
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 August 2011 21:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
lots of good reviews popping up. one review said something about "a live ep" (which could be the mixing it session), and that got me thinking... is there any di live material out there? a video would be very informative...
― zingzing, Saturday, 10 September 2011 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah I'm starting to see it all get written about as well. I still can't believe it's finally here!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 September 2011 23:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
so i'm guessing you don't know of any live stuff then? don't be holding out...
― zingzing, Sunday, 11 September 2011 02:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
Nope, couldn't tell you about that!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 September 2011 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink