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dfa vinyl release on sept.8, god willing. trevor jackson did the artwork - it's sick, especially for the output/dfa stuff.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 4 August 2003 03:59 (twenty years ago) link

s1utsky, it was a bad joke. Very bad. Every time I tried to download the band I had to put up with tracks from Anita Baker's Rapture LP. And Justin and Kylie live at the Brits.

I still wanna know about the alternate 'HOJL' I downloaded though. Hopefully, it's the album version but probably not.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 4 August 2003 04:10 (twenty years ago) link

was it the Geist rmx?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 4 August 2003 04:13 (twenty years ago) link

Nope. The mp3 was subtitled 'Another version' and I have the 12" too.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 4 August 2003 04:28 (twenty years ago) link

On a DFA related note, I just flipped over to CITV and the kid leads on 'Wilmot' are accidentally crossing 'Losing My Edge' with the Streets.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 4 August 2003 14:37 (twenty years ago) link

There's a Cosmos (Tom Middleton) remix of HoJL now, it's sort of boompty chicago style, pretty cool.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:21 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.nme.com/features/105669.htm

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:00 (twenty years ago) link

Barima - is it off the Insound sampler? The one with little or no oonce?

flightsatdusk (flightsatdusk), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

It's called Echoes and their faces are echoing!

s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:09 (twenty years ago) link

it's a pretty good cover, all things considered.

better daft punk/trevor jackson stylee than more distressed photocopy font.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:11 (twenty years ago) link

What was that fake-broken-typewriter font called again?

s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:14 (twenty years ago) link

I dunno, flightatdusk. I don't have the sampler for one thing.

That cover is cool, lots better than the Playgroup one too. It's got the 'moved-on-up-ness' of Discovery's cover in relation to Homework's-and mo' props for using their actual faces.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I caught the band at Fopp on Earlham St. last night. They were an hour late but it was more or less worth it. They played 'Out Of The Races', 'Sister Saviour' and 'HOJL' then signed copies of the single (me: the 12", the 7" and a poster the staff gave me for free). For the first time in ever, I actually got nevous-chatty talking to a band. WTF up with that? I even forgot to ask them about the damn mp3! They are all pretty cool though, I would've tried to blag my way to the boat party tonight but the queue etc.

Trevor Jackson was also there and I told him I found an old Brotherhood 12" in a quid bin. "Always sad when they end up there", he said, probably fuming inside. I told him I'd been listening to Playgroup a lot over the weekend (I was trying to figure out where that duff reggae number fit into the scheme of things and I was mostly listening to 'Bring It On', 'Medicine Man' and 'Too Much'). "You're a madman", he told me before leaving.

Barima (Barima), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:13 (twenty years ago) link

The reggae one is fucking great dude!

I saw the Rapture at Tribal Gathering's big acid house warehouse thing in Manchester on Saturday and they blew my mind. They were in a small backroom with graffiti everywhere and sweat dripping off the roof playing to a crowd which was really jumped up, not least after the DJ before them played Go and then Hardtrance Experience.

Anyway they really gave it everything and seemed to enjoy it so much, the singer was screaming and then stage dived, it really felt like a seminal moment of the year, I enjoyed them as much as anything else this year, and I am firmly a dance fan.

Sister Saviour is a dementedly good record.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:19 (twenty years ago) link

Does anyone else feel sad to be letting them go?

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:20 (twenty years ago) link

Go where? The stratosphere?

I would've been at Tribal too, but I couldn't afford to return to a place I semi-hate, spiritually and financially.

Barima (Barima), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:28 (twenty years ago) link

yeah go big, leave the muso zone.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:31 (twenty years ago) link

They can handle it. They were working the crowd just so back in May when I saw them, bring on the bigger venues and let all enjoy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:37 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah it was cool having them as the little secret but god can they handle it. They are going to be so popular, I am now convinced.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:42 (twenty years ago) link

hey Barima, i was there last nite too! it rocked. so much better than the glastonbury gig, not an outdoors band at all! look, i even wrote about it in my group blog...it's all in your mind

they should be on top of the pops, daytime radio 1, radio 2, the works, let nothing hold them back!

also got tickets to the gig at Heaven on sept.30th...

pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:43 (twenty years ago) link

d'oh fuck i mean it's all in your mind

pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:44 (twenty years ago) link

Thing is, we need a band like the Rapture to be popular in the hope that pop will pay attention to an entire genre besides hip hop and r'n'b (as far as I could tell for example, dancehall blowing up this year actually amounts to Sean Paul and 'Diwali' blowing up) and because I want the DFA to achieve their 'engagement with pop culture' dreams.

Pete, I was hoping to find out if anyone here would go but I found out too late for a message. I was the only black person there if that helps. And yeah, they are grebt indoors.

Barima (Barima), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:48 (twenty years ago) link

Thing is, we need a band like the Rapture to be popular in the hope that pop will pay attention to an entire genre besides hip hop and r'n'b (as far as I could tell for example, dancehall blowing up this year actually amounts to Sean Paul and 'Diwali' blowing up) and because I want the DFA to achieve their 'engagement with pop culture' dreams.

Pete, I was hoping to find out if anyone here would go but I found out too late for a message. I was the only black guy there (probably, there was one obnoxious-ass 6'5 dude, but I think he left) if that helps. And yeah, they are grebt indoors.

Barima (Barima), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link

Oh damn.

Barima (Barima), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:50 (twenty years ago) link

the last pink single was a bit dfa, a tiny bit. er was it?

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:59 (twenty years ago) link

It sounded like the Fantasma-era Cornelius record Beck desperately wanted to make (cf. 'Milk and Honey' and in the same way the meat of that rekkid wanted to do Prince).

Barima (Barima), Thursday, 28 August 2003 14:12 (twenty years ago) link

barima, i think i saw you talking to luke at the signing table. i was in a black top/white earrings, standing with trevor for much of the event.
if you describe how the mp3 sounds a bit more, i might be able to i.d. it for you.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:46 (twenty years ago) link

i have three distinct versions:

the echoes version
the insound version
the 12" a-side single version

(then the mixes:)
the 12" b-side morgan geist mix
the musik disco punk version
the playgroup dj kicks version
the colette no 4 version

i think i know the version that barima is talking about though... it's the insound tour support EP version.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:52 (twenty years ago) link

Was the Cosmos one for the UK release or something? The Geist mix is magic.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 August 2003 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

how different are the non-remix versions?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 28 August 2003 22:38 (twenty years ago) link

the last pink single was a bit dfa

Heh, DFA's the label, innit?

hstencil, Thursday, 28 August 2003 22:48 (twenty years ago) link

I don't get it!

The non-remix version I heard had tinnier higher pitched percussion after the "shakedooooown" part, that's as much difference as I noted.

I am enjoying the Cosmos remix alot, it's not better than the original and there's not alot of point to remixing HOTJL but it's still cool.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 08:08 (twenty years ago) link

Hey lauren, think I remember you too. I'm away from the mp3 right now, people, but gygax seems to be closest to an ID. Basically, this version is 5.58 mins long, the guitar riffs that sound a little like rave synth stabs form the intro then carry on as a drumbeat (actual, not programmed) comes in 4 or 8 bars later (can't really remember) then the other elements (cowbell, bass riff etc) come in-I think the new intro and a slightly different mix are what makes this a new one. I think the housey breakbeat is either fairly muted or doesn't appear b/c I can't fully remember it being there.

I wasn't so into the remixes-I think Geist just about covered it all, though Middleton gave a good stab.

Barima (Barima), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:31 (twenty years ago) link

Britney supposedly recorded something w/James Murphy but "her label wouldn't let her release it" though that's probably completely made up

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:03 (twenty years ago) link

it's true - britney did go into the studio with james and tim for an afternoon.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:14 (twenty years ago) link

barima-

that is the version from the insound tour support EP.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:19 (twenty years ago) link

has anyone heard the ends remix of "killing"? that and alabama sunshine are my two current rapture favorites.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

who is "the rapture"?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 29 August 2003 14:18 (twenty years ago) link

am i the only one who thinks "Like I Love You" is the bizzaro HOJL?

fcussen (Burger), Friday, 29 August 2003 14:44 (twenty years ago) link

Heh heh heh.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 14:45 (twenty years ago) link

i say we start calling them the ratpure anyway.

glenny g2003 (glenny g2003), Saturday, 30 August 2003 08:25 (twenty years ago) link

has anyone heard the ends remix of "killing"?

When you say the ends, are you refferring to "are you really from the ends" ends?

T. Weiss (Timmy), Saturday, 30 August 2003 08:52 (twenty years ago) link

yup.

lauren (laurenp), Saturday, 30 August 2003 12:48 (twenty years ago) link

Mystery solved.

I'm gonna give the 'Killing' rmx another listen. There was some potential buffness there, but why it ain't on vinyl anyway mystifies.

Barima (Barima), Saturday, 30 August 2003 13:03 (twenty years ago) link

Argh. Anyone from the States managed to register on the UK site (to hear the full tracks)?

It's stuck on "processing" permanenty.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 31 August 2003 21:45 (twenty years ago) link

Gang of Four - Check.
A Certain Ration - Check.
One Step Beyond - Hang on, who put that in here?

mark grout, Monday, 1 September 2003 14:34 (twenty years ago) link

I can't for the life of me like the Rapture. I sort of assumed I would (but they are postpunky! but they have foxy percussion!), that I was just waiting for my love for them to kick in, a few more listens to HOJL and 'out of the races...' and it would All Make Sense. Caught them at Reading and blamed my lack of interest on the fact that I ws half-asleep at the time; caught them at the FOPP instore and realised that no, really, they just do not appeal. Except 'I need your love', is it called? With the keyboards: yes.

They just seem to have so many songs based on the same, rather staid, four-four tempo, with negligible verses above and fairly basic rhythms below. I guess it doesn't help that I think the singer's weak (perhaps there are two? the yelpy one and the one I barely notice?) and am not too fond of the DFA's production. But I'm left still feeling like I'm missing out on something: I should by rights like them and yet I can't work out what's likeable about them at all.

cis (cis), Monday, 1 September 2003 18:20 (twenty years ago) link

have you heard the album yet?

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 18:25 (twenty years ago) link

(if not, reserve judgement.)

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 18:26 (twenty years ago) link


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