Luck: HBO series: David Milch, Dustin Hoffman, Michael Mann

Yeah when he's introduced you're just like oh here's our squarejawed noble hero, but eventually it just turns out that he's a bully and a dickhead?

and awesome

Deadwood is def my fave show ever. Please do not compare it to Boardwalk Empire.

Joan Allen has joined for an arc.

The challenges of filming at Santa Anita.

Despite some logistical challenges and ensuing "mental stress," HBO is "thrilled beyond belief" to be filming the high-profile drama at Santa Anita, said Henry Bronchtein, the co-executive producer of "Luck."

looking forward to this getting cancelled in the middle of the story

Milch on Zenyatta and the Breeders' Cup Classic
http://www.drf.com/news/final-and-deepest-gift-zenyatta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4cgvV9m6mE

Michael Gambon on board as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8yOQJ288GQ&feature=player_embedded

yeah that looks frickin sweet

it'll be nice to see hoffman doing something substantial again

Wow--nice.

this looks awesome

"i cast tom waits as nick nolte as a kentucky trainer with a lot of mileage in his past"

horse riding sequence looked surprisingly exciting. also I think I spotted a very Mann-ish chair-kicking shot.

sorta feel like this and treme's second season might force my hand to get hbo finally

lol you watch treme

not lol. no lols. stern serious lectures you watch treme.

this board's derision for treme mystifies me but hey ymmv

I don't think it was just this board

yeah i guess there was the boston herald too
http://www.metacritic.com/tv/treme/season-1/critic-reviews

yes a lot of critics gave treme As when it came out

If they still liked it when the season ended I dunno, but few pro critics were like "I shit on this show about New Orleans from the Wire guy" when it came out

Treme is great.

I didn't actually mean critics though. I don't know anyone irl who liked it and a lot of people who strongly disliked it.

i don't really talk to anybody irl about television tbh

Unfortunately 90% of my conversations are pop-culture based

i'm not saying that with any pride btw, it's just that most of my friends watch different tv than i like
and i can't see chatting up the work folks with "that modern family is a SCREAM, rite?"

My father-in-law liked it but he's a professional musician who has probably skipped out of many cab fares in his day so I think he's biased

Treme is great. suckers walked into it expecting The Wire set in New Orleans and got mad that it was a different show.

treme is dope. gotta say that luck looks awesome, too. wish i had hbo, might have to re-up on that.

treme was really good. different from simon's other stuff but who wants him to do exactly the same thing over and over? I don't. glad to see him out of baltimore for a change.

luck looks good. HBO has some good stuff, again, after a year or two there where it was getting kind of bankrupt.

I have high hopes for Armando Ianucci's upcoming HBO show "Veep"

I didn't like Treme much, but what I like even less is people who say I didn't like it because it wasn't "The Wire."

What do I know, though, I liked John from Cincinnati a whole lot.

u only liked John from Cincinnati bc it took place in an old timey western frontier town

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yeah i realize thats a disingenuous throwaway remark, sorry.

i loved John from Cincinnati too

I loved John from Cincinnati with the Milch commentary track on and the regular audio track off.

when do we get a tv show created by the cohen bros

Not too surprising:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-mann-david-milch-split-181092

i'm actually really surprised mann had that big a hand in it in the first place. i figured it'd be a thing where he just directs the pilot and slaps his name on the show a la scorsese & boardwalk empire, but according to this:

After what an HBO source describes as "serious" discussions, Milch has the final word on scripts, but Mann decides everything else, from casting to cutting to music. Clearly that is not a situation to which Milch, the Emmy-winning writer-producer of NYPD Blue and Deadwood, has lately been accustomed.

rad, cochi loco is in this

mann loves ortiz.

Mann decides everything else, from casting to cutting to music.

wonder who else is directing

Terry George and Allen Coulter apparently (me neither).

HBO's gonna have their 'house' guys direct it like they do with every show.

Didn't Terry George do Hotel Rwanda?

Totally inevitable. Two of the smartest, toughest, most head-strong, most perfectionist auteurs in the biz, collaborating? Ha. I'd watch a show about their behind the scenes fights.

Premieres in January.

trailer

http://www.slashfilm.com/tv-trailer-michael-manndirected-hbo-drama-series-luck-starring-dustin-hoffman-nick-nolte/