ILM's Best Shoegaze / Dream Pop / Post-rock TRACKS poll - RESULTS THREAD

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22. Slowdive - Allison (7 votes, 208 points)
Souvlaki (1993)
Youtube

Nah, just reacting to what's coming up. I've never liked any Ride post-Nowhere, Adorable and Teenage Fanclub and The Telescopes don't seem particularly gazey to me, and ...well, that's about it I guess.

"Allison" is one of the Slowdive songs I dig, so huzzah.

'leave them all behind' is kind of nice as a footnote to early 90s stadium-sized bombast, but killer drumming aside, everything on ride's debut destroys this.

shit, is slowdive peaking too early??

"In a Different Place"? (*snortle*)

Gotta go. Leave you with the last song of the day. See you tomorrow for the final countdown.

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21. Chapterhouse - Pearl (9 votes, 211 points)
Whirlpool (1990)
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To recap

100. COCTEAU TWINS "Cherry Coloured Funk (1990) [90 points, 3 votes]
99. MAHOGANY "Supervitesse" (2006) [90 points, 4 votes]
98. MOOSE "Suzanne" (1991) [90 points, 5 votes]
97. SLOWDIVE "40 Days" (1993) [91 points, 3 votes]
96. LOW, TRANSIENT WAVES & PIANO MAGIC "Sleep at the Bottom" (1998) [92 points, 3 votes]
95. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Cupid Come" (1988) [92 points, 5 votes]
94. CRANES "Starblood" (1991) [93 points, 5 votes]
93. MOGWAI "Mogwai Fear Satan" (1997) [94 points, 5 votes]
92. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Loomer" (1991) [95 points, 5 votes]
91. BARDO POND "Tommy Gun Angel" (1997) [96 points, 4 votes]
90. LUSH "Nothing Natural" (1991) [97 points, 4 votes]
89. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Swallow" (1991) [97 points, 5 votes]
88. DNTEL "The Is the Dream of Evan and Chan" (2001) [98 points, 4 votes]
87. YO LA TENGO "From a Motel 6" (1993) [99 points, 6 votes]
TIE 86. SWERVEDRIVER "Never Lose That Feeling" (1993) [100 points, 3 votes]
TIE 86. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Lose My Breath" (1988) [100 points, 3 votes]
85. THE SUNDAYS "Skin and Bones" (1990) [101 points, 3 votes]
84. THE CHAMELEONS "View From a Hill" (1983) [101 points, 4 votes]
83. SLOWDIVE "Slowdive" (1990) [101 points, 5 votes]
82. GLENN BRANCA "Lesson No.1" (1980) [102 points, 4 votes]
81. DISCO INFERNO "Summer's Last Sound" (1992) [103 points, 4 votes]

80. JULEE CRUISE "Falling" (1989) [104 points, 6 votes]
79. SPACEMEN 3 "Suicide" (1989) [105 points, 4 votes]
78. M83 "Run Into Flowers" (2003) [106 points, 4 votes]
77. VERVE "A Man Called Sun" (1992) [107 points, 5 votes]
76. WIRE "The 15th" (1979) [108 points, 5 votes]
75. MOOSE "Jack" (1991) [109 points, 4 votes]
TIE 74. PALE SAINTS "Throwing Back the Apple" (1992) [110 points, 5 votes]
TIE 74. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "I Only Said" (1991) [110 points, 5 votes]
73. LUSH "For Love" (1992) [110 points, 6 votes]
72. THE TELESCOPES "High on Fire" (1992) [111 points, 4 votes]
71. SPACEMEN 3 "Hypnotized" (1989) [112 points, 5 votes]
70. RIDE "Taste" (1990) [113 points, 5 votes]
69. DISCO INFERNO "Second Language" (1994) [114 points, 4 votes]
68. SLOWDIVE "Souvlaki Space Station" (1993) [115 points, 7 votes]
67. THE HOUSE OF LOVE "Destroy the Heart" (1988) [116 points, 7 votes]
66. A.R. KANE "Lollita" (1987) [117 points, 3 votes]
65. RIDE "Drive Blind" (1990) [118 points, 3 votes]
64. CHAPTERHOUSE "Breather" (1990) [118 points, 7 votes]
63. GROUPER "Heavy Water / I'd Rather Be Sleeping" (2008) [119 points, 4 votes]
62. SLOWDIVE "Avalyn I" (1990) [120 points, 3 votes]
61. SPIRITUALIZED "Medication" (1992) [121 points, 5 votes]

60. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Off Your Face" (1990) [122 points, 4 votes]
59. TEENAGE FANCLUB "Star Sign" (1991) [123 points, 6 votes]
58. THE BOO RADLEYS "Does This Hurt?" (1992) [124 points, 5 votes]
57. THE SUNDAYS "Here's Where the Story Ends" (1990) [124 points, 6 votes]
56. COCTEAU TWINS "Heaven or Las Vegas" (1990) [125 points, 6 votes]
55. BARK PSYCHOSIS "A Street Scene" (1994) [126 points, 3 votes]
54. SPIRITUALIZED "Run" (1992) [127 points, 4 votes]
53. KITCHENS OF DISTINCTION "Drive That Fast" (1990) [128 points, 7 votes]
52. SLOWDIVE "Morningrise" (1991) [129 points, 6 votes]
51. M83 "Don't Save Us From the Flames" (2005) [130 points, 4 votes]
50. LOOP "Arc-Light (Sonar)" (1989) [132 points, 5 votes]
49. BLUR "Sing" (1991) [134 points, 5 votes]
48. BRIAN ENO "Here Come the Warm Jets" (1974) [135 points, 5 votes]
47. CURVE "Ten Little Girls" (1991) [136 points, 6 votes]
46. TALK TALK "I Believe in You" (1988) [137 points, 6 votes]
45. SLOWDIVE "Catch the Breeze" (1991) [139 points, 7 votes]
44. CURVE "Horror Head" (1992) [140 points, 4 votes]
43. GALAXIE 500 "Blue Thunder" (1989) [142 points, 5 votes]
42. LOOP "Black Sun" (1988) [143 points, 6 votes]
41. GALAXIE 500 "Listen, the Snow Is Falling" (1990) [146 points, 6 votes]

40. SWERVEDRIVER "Son of Mustang Ford" (1990) [148 points, 7 votes]
39. RIDE "Seagull" (1990) [150 points, 7 votes]
38. DISCO INFERNO "The Long Dance" (1993) [151 points, 5 votes]
37. RIDE "Chelsea Girl" (1990) [152 points, 5 votes]
36. MERCURY REV "Frittering" (1991) [153 points, 8 votes]
35. SLOWDIVE "When the Sun Hits" (1993) [154 points, 7 votes]
34. CURVE "Coast Is Clear" (1991) [157 points, 7 votes]
33. THIS MORTAL COIL "Song to the Siren" (1983) [158 points, 5 votes]
32. DISCO INFERNO "Love Stepping Out" (1992) [165 points, 6 votes]
31. PALE SAINTS "Sight of You" (1988) [167 points, 6 votes]
30. COCTEAU TWINS "Carolyn's Fingers" (1988) [172 points, 6 votes]
29. LUSH "De-Luxe" (1990) [173 points, 7 votes]
28. ADORABLE "Sunshine Smile" (1992) [174 points, 7 votes]
27. SWERVEDRIVER "Rave Down" (1991) [175 points, 8 votes]
26. THE SUNDAYS "Can't Be Sure" (1989) [181 points, 6 votes]
25. TEENAGE FANCLUB "Everything Flows" (1990) [186 points, 7 votes]
24. RIDE "Leave Them All Behind" (1992) [200 points, 7 votes]
23. THE TELESCOPES "You Set My Soul" (1992) [205 points, 7 votes]
22. SLOWDIVE "Allison" (1993) [208 points, 7 votes]
21. CHAPTERHOUSE "Pearl" (1990) [211 points, 9 votes]

ARGH. Locked out of the top 20? Poor Pearl. Worth a thousand Slowdives, Rachel Goswell's vocal on that.

^^^endless concurrence.

It does, however, appear to have had the most individual votes so far so I'm thinking that it wuz robbed.

yay, another one of my noms ('pearl'). not that somebody else wouldn't have suggested it, what with 9 votes and all.

yep i've even got an enduring soft spot for 'in a different place'. even if it occasionally makes me cringe.

If Sweetness & Light and Vapour Trail don't turn up top 20 I'm gonna burn down some dreams, alright.

I gave both ^ votes.

Okay, so those will be in the top 20 (right?), along with Only Shallow and Soon. I'm still hoping as many people love The Spangle Maker as I do, but the fact that I had to nominate it after 15 other Cocteaus tracks had been nominated makes me wonder.

I still think Ride ceased being a shoegaze band before Going Blank Again ever came out.

Tell it to Mark Gardner then, whenever he plays this song now he usually introduces with "who wants to shoegaze a bit"

#1 is "Soon" and #2 is "Fait Accompli"

I'm fine with where Slowdive, Lush and Ride are placing

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I really don't see "Fait Accompli" as #2.

Echoing thoughts already expressed on the Verve thread, man, I hope Gravity Grave gets some love on this poll, but I've not got much hope as I would have expected it to place lower so it probably didn't turn up at all.

5 of mine showed tonight, taking me to 12/34 in total - meaning at least two are condemned not to show, curses

xps: but then again I didn't see it beating "Horror Head" or "Coast Is Clear" so what do I know

I'm visiting my parents at the moment. That^ is the tracklist from a Lush gig in a tiny venue in Brighton from about February 1990, which I've just worked out how to scan. I have a ton of Sounds/Melody Maker/NMEs from 1990/1991 here. If anyone wants a review of a particular album / EP / gig scanned and uploaded I could probably do that while I'm here.

'Gravity Grave''ll make it. I've got a treat lined up for when it does, too.

i'm quietly hopeful that lush's relatively modest turn-out so far means that there'll be a whole swag of tracks littering the top 20. there's still a number of nommed gems in there.

If you could find *that* infamous cover with Mark Gardener and Tim Burgess acting out Lady & The Tramp* with a stick of bubblegum, I'd be much obliged.

*this really happened, right? This wasn't just some demented acid trip my housemate invented to torture me with, huh? It was a real thing. I know it was.

Two sticks of rock, it was - to promote a gig in Blackpool or Brighton iirc

Melody Maker 1998-05-09

STILL singing as though her esophagus is coated in thick toxic Chernobyl sludge, Toni Halliday drags Curve's larvae-infected carcass out for one last public humiliation before the abattoir's gates loom irrevocably.

R: "Why the f*** are they back together? They were never any good. All their records were crummy. They were part of all the shoegazing bollocks. All those groups like Ride and Chapterhouse were shit. It was the worst time for music, ever. And this song sounds worse than Garbage. As dreadful as ever."

M (folds sleeve into an aeroplane, opens window and flies it out onto Camden's streets below): "It doesn't even make a good paper aeroplane. Totally useless."

--Daniel Booth, with Richard & Mike from 60FT Dolls

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I never really got into Slowdive even though I liked what I heard and even thought they were really good when I saw them open for Ride. I dunno, I guess I was getting my daily quotient of shoegaze back then. I need to rectify that.

I wasn't massively into them at the time. I bought the Slowdive EP when it came out, because I'd just seen them live (supporting Ride, then supporting the Pale Saints about a month later) and liked it, but on the whole I felt they lacked the energy and aggression of groups like Ride. I taped the next two EPs off a mate and didn't bother with the album. Then about two years later I suddenly discovered I loved them.

NBS - nme ran a 'twenty years of the indie chart' retrospective in about July 91, I'd like to see that. Also a 'top drummers of all time' feature at about the same time. Wouldn't mind seeing the reviews of Fall EP and Nowhere too if you have time, and anything earthshattering/amusing you might happen across (like Mr Abusing, say)

Why do I remember it being bubblegum? Wishful thinking?

a ha haha, oh, the video for Pearl. No matter how many times I've seen this projected over the stage at Sonic Cathedral, it still makes me laugh every damn time. It's just *so* Smash Hits, ethereal style. All these floppy haired shoegaze boys filmed through a smear of vaseline staring moodily upwards into blue light like the Blessed Virgin Mary. It makes me laugh so hard.

I had big returns today:

08/20 Overall

Five #1 votes:
Adorable - Sunshine Smile
Slowdive - When the Sun Hits
Chapterhouse - Pearl
Swervedriver - Rave Down
Ride - Leave Them All Behind

Three lesser votes:
Mercury Rev - Frittering
Pale Saints - Sight of You
Slowdive - Allison

Seeing 'Chelsea Girl' and 'Seagull' and 'Leave Them All Behind' all out of the way already, I'm thinking Ride aren't going to get too many high placing tracks.

I still think Ride ceased being a shoegaze band before Going Blank Again ever came out.

LTAB was definitely Shoegazing. I don't think anyone would make that claim for Twisterella or Making Judy Smile, though.

Great to see 'You Set My Soul' place so highly. I love that song (and that album), but have rarely come across anybody else who does. It was googling the Telescopes that first led me onto ILM more than six years ago.

IK - I'll see what I can find...

I always come back to "Time Machine". Seemed like their most natural step forward from the all-pedals-are-go days.

Seeing 'Chelsea Girl' and 'Seagull' and 'Leave Them All Behind' all out of the way already, I'm thinking Ride aren't going to get too many high placing tracks.

I imagine 'Dreams Burn Down' and 'Vapor Trail' will be pretty high up there. Would love to see 'Like A Daydream' in there too but I doubt it will place.

And as I mentioned upthread, aside from LTAB, Going Blank Again is not a shoegaze album.

"Vapour Trail" is in the Top 5 or else.

'Time Machine''s a really nice tune. Whole album's ripe for reappraisal imo - maybe we should poll it after the dust settles here?

Personally, I'd love to see 'Close My Eyes' up there, but I can't honestly see many people (who aren't me) voting that higher than the Ride tracks we've already seen.

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^ A slightly underwhelming 4-star review of Nowhere from Sounds.

Where are you 'Christine'? :(

check ILTMI

I could be a total optimist and hold out hope for Sennen but I know that's just foolishness.

HOL LOLs xp

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From Melody Maker, 31 August 1991, the backlash against Shoegazing already well underway, a bit of a kicking delivered to the Slowdive album...

That'll do me for tonight. Might dig out some more stuff tomorrow morning.

US "Vapour Trail" version of the Today Forever EP was an embarrassment of riches.

What critics liked Slowdive at the time? I mean I don't remember a backlash against the genre so much as them (and I concurred, I've always loathed them).

i remember an interview with slowdive where one of the members said the only bands he listened to were new order (maybe the cure as well) and oddly, duran duran.

Lester otm there I'm afraid - that's what I was getting at upthread when I said if only they'd managed Souvlaki for the debut.