10 Intelligent questions for Oneida

who will be the first HeadgeMazeGaze band?

(this live set is pretty smoking btw: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Oneida/Live_at_Primavera_Sound_2009_on_WFMU_1784)

dl/ty

Thanks for that link, looking forward to listening to it. First track is a two-song jam clocking in at 43:58? Niiiice.

That drowned in sound article is so good. Pissed that I am stuck at work! I just wanna JAM.

all files have finished downloading!!!!!!!

^ exclamation points for emphasis

oh holy shit

haha. also this, which i haven't heard yet: www.nyctaper.com/?p=2721

^I grabbed that one as soon as it was put up, I think.
Really nice to hear them doing a set of mostly covers.
Cave played at that event.

kalimba-like guitar bit at about 17/18 min on the opener is so damn nice

fuck, not to mention the organ drone after [/livebloggin]

Will be dling both sets tonight! Love this band so much. Any news on the third in the "Thank Your Parents" trilogy yet? Not that I'm even close to bored with Rated O, but always ready for more.

I'm sure I read somewhere that part three isn't coming out until summer 2011, although a quick search for that hasn't turned up any concrete info so I might be misremembering. Kid says it has no drums and will be one disc:

What's the third part going to be like?

KM: It's going to be no drums. It's done, it's finished. I don't know when it's coming out. We have to submit it to the label first but it is done.

Are there any morsels of information you can tell us about it?

KM: It's conceptually coherent and it is one disc long. It's kind of all the same piece.

http://thequietus.com/articles/04574-white-hills-oneida-interview-kid-millions

Thanks. I admit to being skeptical about the "no drums" thing, but I'm sure these guys can pull off something amazing anyway.

That article was great. This band is almost "too good." A ridiculous, overused phrase. But seriously? Seriously.

hey, even more live oneida, again courtesy nyctaper: http://www.nyctaper.com/?p=4227

Oneida? More like OneIdea, amirite?

lol j/k

I gotta load up my ipod with all these live O jams.

sample from Thank Your Parents part 3:
http://www.scjag.com/mp3/jag/horizonedit.mp3

it's called Absolute II and its out 6th june, whoop!

can't listen to it at work but: yessssssssssssssssss!

no drums on this one.
just got sent it by the fine fine label so gonna give it a listen in a bit

no drums!?

I felt like crying when I heard this. I probably had too high an expectation of it.

I just heard about this yesterday...it's already on rym on the Jagjaguwar page

no drums!?

― tylerw, Wednesday, April 27, 2011 2:33 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

These guys have pretty much done everything. I think that they've earned the license to do whatever they want.

Oh, agreed, and I'm still looking forward to this more than pretty much everything, but Kid Millions is such a brilliant drummer that its still a little disappointing. Kind of like hearing King Crimson in their prime would have a record without Fripp playing guitar or something.

fromt he Jagjaguwar site:

SONG LIST:
Pre Human
Horizons
Gray Area
Absolute II

Absolute II CD / LP (JAG190, released: 06/07/11)
Absolute II is the final piece in Oneida's Thank Your Parents triptych of releases, begun in 2008 with Preteen Weaponry and followed by 2009's acclaimed triple disc Rated O. With this release, the Brooklyn group concludes a challenging and profound long-term project. The Thank Your Parents triptych, totaling around 200 minutes, is intended to be listened to as a whole or in its component parts. Absolute II stands on its own, in addition to serving as a chapter in an immense whole.

The music on Absolute II is startling, rigorous and demanding. Oneida is a band that has been strongly identified with the frenetic, fluid drumming of Kid Millions and the relentless pulse of classic Krautrock, but this release contains neither audible drums nor identifiable "rock" music. The recordings move freely across accepted boundaries of rhythm, harmony, and tonality – not in the form of dramatic, willful experiment, but as a musical distillation of several themes that have emerged in the wake of Rated O's dynamism: paralysis, entropy, stasis, possibility, and finality among them.

While Oneida is known for unpredictability and sui generis musical forms, this release is particularly resistant to categorization, and it remains difficult to identify precise influences on the music contained here. This is particularly unhelpful, we realize; suggestions and recommendations for updating this info release would be welcome, as the band themselves don't really know or are being recalcitrant.

in the Quietus interview with K Millions and the guy from White Hills from last year, it was stated that this would have no drums

10 Intelligent questions for Oneida

Yeah, I remember that now. I was kind of hoping it was one of those off-the-cuff things that didn't end up being totally true. Still super psyched for this.

Kind of like hearing King Crimson in their prime would have a record without Fripp playing guitar or something.
or seeing the credit on a led zep album: "John Bonham: Keyboards"
but yeah, like tripmaker said! they can do whatever they want.

Maybe they decided to give Kid a rest on the new Oneida in consideration of his all-drums project, Man Forever?

i trust y'all have seen this: http://www.nyctaper.com/?p=5562
haven't grabbed it yet (requires a donation) but I plan to...

The Shinji Masuko album Woven Music that was just released on Brah is pretty great.

yeah I want to check that out

(can anyone recommend me some DMBQ btw?)

Just to qualify: I thought no drums was a great idea and was really looking forward to some kind of cosmic synth masterpiece but on first listen I found it really airless, monotone and unengaging. That said they're a band who often does stuff that grows on me.

listening to each one teach one right now what an album

...on first listen I found it really airless, monotone and unengaging.

― PG Harpy (Doran), Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

see, thing is, i want good news

listing now to _up with people_ v v loud. d-_-b

I caught the second part of the Japan benefit Ocrop shows they did. It was really a feat of endurance. Three long (40+ min. IIRC) jams that went through various Oneida modes. I watched Kid collapse onto the kit at the end of the final set. Very worth donating and listening to! They are doing another Ocrop. a weekend in June - three consecutive dates. And they will be "presenting" The Ocropolis at ATP in Sept!!! So much Oneida love!

In a recent issue of the L Magazine (Brooklyn free mag) they posed the question: What's Wrong With The Brooklyn Music Scene? The first answer, from a lovely chap named Jason Diamond, "It's something of a crime that Oneida is still around and they aren't looked at as the best and most important band to come out of this whole Brooklyn renaissance of the last decade. I have no affiliation with the band, but I've watched for years as their contemporaries become famous, or far lesser bands jock their sound. That's a shame."

Nuff said!

Jason Diamond OTMFM

They're such a brilliant band. Which is why it might be necessary for me to listen all of Thank Your Parents in order on acid to see if the final part makes more sense like that.

God, I'm still getting my head round Rated O.

Frankly I just don't listen to Oneida as much as I wish I did. They're such a good band, but I have to be in a certain mood and in the right company to really enjoy them. You can't just stick em on in the background while you do the washing up.

ve watched for years as their contemporaries become famous, or far lesser bands jock their sound.
might be true, but it might be at least in part the band's own fault? they don't seem too interested in pursuing a standard indie rock career, at least in terms of touring/promotion, etc. which is good in a lot of ways, but it also means that they're going to be a little less known. i think it'll all even out in the end.

Well, to be fair, I think that they used to tow the typical indie rock line. At this point, dudes are married with children, and it's pretty tough to be a family man living on the road. Hence these marathon Ocropolis sessions, I suppose. I mean, I've seen them ten times in my life but none of those shows were in the last five years. And I've only been to NYC twice.

I think that they are just too extreme/weird/sincere/awesome for mass acceptance.