ILM's Best Shoegaze / Dream Pop / Post-rock TRACKS poll - RESULTS THREAD

What's all this G500 doing in this poll btw? Makes about as much sense as Teenage Fanclub or Spacemen 3.

^^

love G500 but don't get why they're here

100. COCTEAU TWINS "Cherry Coloured Funk (1990) [90 points, 3 votes]
99. MAHOGANY "Supervitesse" (2006) [90 points, 4 votes]
98. MOOSE "Suzanne" (1991) [90 points, 5 votes]
97. SLOWDIVE "40 Days" (1993) [91 points, 3 votes]
96. LOW, TRANSIENT WAVES & PIANO MAGIC "Sleep at the Bottom" (1998) [92 points, 3 votes]
95. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Cupid Come" (1988) [92 points, 5 votes]
94. CRANES "Starblood" (1991) [93 points, 5 votes]
93. MOGWAI "Mogwai Fear Satan" (1997) [94 points, 5 votes]
92. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Loomer" (1991) [95 points, 5 votes]
91. BARDO POND "Tommy Gun Angel" (1997) [96 points, 4 votes]
90. LUSH "Nothing Natural" (1991) [97 points, 4 votes]
89. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Swallow" (1991) [97 points, 5 votes]
88. DNTEL "The Is the Dream of Evan and Chan" (2001) [98 points, 4 votes]
87. YO LA TENGO "From a Motel 6" (1993) [99 points, 6 votes]
TIE 86. SWERVEDRIVER "Never Lose That Feeling" (1993) [100 points, 3 votes]
TIE 86. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Lose My Breath" (1988) [100 points, 3 votes]
85. THE SUNDAYS "Skin and Bones" (1990) [101 points, 3 votes]
84. THE CHAMELEONS "View From a Hill" (1983) [101 points, 4 votes]
83. SLOWDIVE "Slowdive" (1990) [101 points, 5 votes]
82. GLENN BRANCA "Lesson No.1" (1980) [102 points, 4 votes]
81. DISCO INFERNO "Summer's Last Sound" (1992) [103 points, 4 votes]

80. JULEE CRUISE "Falling" (1989) [104 points, 6 votes]
79. SPACEMEN 3 "Suicide" (1989) [105 points, 4 votes]
78. M83 "Run Into Flowers" (2003) [106 points, 4 votes]
77. VERVE "A Man Called Sun" (1992) [107 points, 5 votes]
76. WIRE "The 15th" (1979) [108 points, 5 votes]
75. MOOSE "Jack" (1991) [109 points, 4 votes]
TIE 74. PALE SAINTS "Throwing Back the Apple" (1992) [110 points, 5 votes]
TIE 74. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "I Only Said" (1991) [110 points, 5 votes]
73. LUSH "For Love" (1992) [110 points, 6 votes]
72. THE TELESCOPES "High on Fire" (1992) [111 points, 4 votes]
71. SPACEMEN 3 "Hypnotized" (1989) [112 points, 5 votes]
70. RIDE "Taste" (1990) [113 points, 5 votes]
69. DISCO INFERNO "Second Language" (1994) [114 points, 4 votes]
68. SLOWDIVE "Souvlaki Space Station" (1993) [115 points, 7 votes]
67. THE HOUSE OF LOVE "Destroy the Heart" (1988) [116 points, 7 votes]
66. A.R. KANE "Lollita" (1987) [117 points, 3 votes]
65. RIDE "Drive Blind" (1990) [118 points, 3 votes]
64. CHAPTERHOUSE "Breather" (1990) [118 points, 7 votes]
63. GROUPER "Heavy Water / I'd Rather Be Sleeping" (2008) [119 points, 4 votes]
62. SLOWDIVE "Avalyn I" (1990) [120 points, 3 votes]
61. SPIRITUALIZED "Medication" (1992) [121 points, 5 votes]

60. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Off Your Face" (1990) [122 points, 4 votes]
59. TEENAGE FANCLUB "Star Sign" (1991) [123 points, 6 votes]
58. THE BOO RADLEYS "Does This Hurt?" (1992) [124 points, 5 votes]
57. THE SUNDAYS "Here's Where the Story Ends" (1990) [124 points, 6 votes]
56. COCTEAU TWINS "Heaven or Las Vegas" (1990) [125 points, 6 votes]
55. BARK PSYCHOSIS "A Street Scene" (1994) [126 points, 3 votes]
54. SPIRITUALIZED "Run" (1992) [127 points, 4 votes]
53. KITCHENS OF DISTINCTION "Drive That Fast" (1990) [128 points, 7 votes]
52. SLOWDIVE "Morningrise" (1991) [129 points, 6 votes]
51. M83 "Don't Save Us From the Flames" (2005) [130 points, 4 votes]
50. LOOP "Arc-Light (Sonar)" (1989) [132 points, 5 votes]
49. BLUR "Sing" (1991) [134 points, 5 votes]
48. BRIAN ENO "Here Come the Warm Jets" (1974) [135 points, 5 votes]
47. CURVE "10 Little Girls" (1991) [136 points, 6 votes]
46. TALK TALK "I Believe in You" (1988) [137 points, 6 votes]
45. SLOWDIVE "Catch the Breeze" (1991) [139 points, 7 votes]
44. CURVE "Horror Head" (1992) [140 points, 4 votes]
43. GALAXIE 500 "Blue Thunder" (1989) [142 points, 5 votes]
42. LOOP "Black Sun" (1988) [143 points, 6 votes]
41. GALAXIE 500 "Listen, the Snow Is Falling" (1990) [146 points, 6 votes]

Of their material, tho, I at least think "Blue Thunder" should qualify

Still (STILL!) can't believe only 3 other people voted for "Horror Head". One of ILM's greatest threads ever is sort of about that song.

Oh how times change.

I didn't even notice that "Here Come the Warm Jets" was nominated. That's what happens when you vote in a rush, etc. It's probably my favourite Brian Eno song.

Every track from #60-#41 is a winner (I voted for six of them)

Yeah sorry that would be 4 other people if I'd got my shit together and voted :(

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only 3 from the last 20, making my grand total = 11

Reading the responses here is like overhearing people trying to decided which bands are punk or metal. I didn't realize dream pop/shoegaze fans were so militant.

For me, dream pop includes a lot of early Siouxsie and the Cure, and it certainly includes the Sugarcubes. If I'd seen the nominations thread I would have nominated a lot of stuff which, seemingly, would have proven controversial to a bunch of you lot.

for me, it's just to stop the poll options being ridiculously unwieldy. i like almost all of what's been nominated but when 'easter theatre' was nominated it felt like things had gotten a bit silly

3 for me too, bringing me to 5. Though I only voted for 28 tracks & frontloaded my ballot w/ those of my favorites which I thought had the potential to score highly, so I imagine the days to come will yield more returns.

I think Mudhoney was where I drew the line. I mean I fucking love Mudhoney, I like them more than pretty much every other band nominated, but shoegaze/dream pop, errr??

nominated 25. 4 picks have come up so far

I remain baffled that Loop were nominated, on the same kick, CP. They're psych/drone, theyre not shoegaze by ANY stretch. Thats liek saying Suicide are shoegaze i mean come on.

Reading the responses here is like overhearing people trying to decided which bands are punk or metal. I didn't realize dream pop/shoegaze fans were so militant.

For me, dream pop includes a lot of early Siouxsie and the Cure, and it certainly includes the Sugarcubes. If I'd seen the nominations thread I would have nominated a lot of stuff which, seemingly, would have proven controversial to a bunch of you lot.

― Kent Burt

Siouxsie and the Cure got nominated and voted for, I think I even voted for them. The Sugarcubes is closer to 'post-punk' than 'dream pop' at least I think the band seemed fashionably closer to punk than pop. I'm willing to say The Sundays border on dreampop, the Sugarcubes definitely dont.

"Mission From God" is where it's at for Curve.

Siouxsie and the Cure got nominated and voted for, I think I even voted for them.

I was surprised there weren't more selections from both is all - and earlier stuff. I see them as the inventors of this so-called genre (Happy House, Israel, Fireworks, A Forest, The Drowning Man, etc.) - especially The Glove project from Smith/Severin.

How "Birthday" is not dream pop I will never understand.

Agree the whole "Just One Kiss" / "This Green City" phase is predictive of a lot of subsequent material stylistically, but I suspect very few people really listened to those records.

""Mission From God" is where it's at for Curve."

--this is true. Only 'catch the breeze' from the last bunch made it to my ballot. i guess my idea of the all time greats is different from everyone else's.

"Lillies Dying" was good too, little bit industrial in there.

little bit industrial in there. - I too like that aspect of their sound, esp. when they kept it reigned into the rhythm tracks (metallic kick-drum sounds & ominous synth bass etc.) & still went all 'gaze guitars & breathy vox over top of it. Some of their later stuff is a little too NIN for their strenghts imo.

Cuckoo is an underrated album & has both elements coexisting throughout.

"Mission from God" is indeed a great track as well. Actually, I had a difficult time choosing b/w that & HH as my Curve song to really get behind.

I just assumed that, of the two, HH would stand a better chance of placing highly. tbh I'm surprised it came in as low as it did, given the outpouring of ILX love it got in ^ that thread). I figured it had top-ten potential even. Didn't it win a Doppelganger poll as well?

While utterly brilliant in more or less every way, 'I Believe In You' is the weakest track on Spirit Of Eden

I ended up pouring a lot of votes into "Fait Accompli" and "Perish"

Curve's "Perish" & Kevin Shields

No Lilys yet huh? Should have voted.

lilys got some votes from me, but probably not enough points to get em in. probably shoulda ordered my ballot in hindsight

'cause feb 14 would have been #1

I would have given many points to Claire Hates Me. Love that song more than anything on that list.

Goodness. I'd got to thinking 'Ten Little Girls' might win this, it looks like the peak of the genre from here. I'm surprised their other tracks get so much love, they're obviously one of those bands who loaded everything into their first shot and suffered diminishing returns afterwards because they had nowhere else to go. Still good like, but they were only ever going to make one stunning record and it was this. I totally understand why it got everyone so excited.

7 out of about 34 for me now.

interesting, 'cause 10 little girls isn't even in my curve top 20.

^ yeah, this.

Actually, I take that back. Listening to it now, I think it could probably worm its way in to my Curve top 20. But it's not one of the ones I ever reach for first.

Did you hear them at the time or get into them later? As I recall, the first eps were received ecstatically but the feeling from then on was 'more of the same'. It's certainly how I feel about them, but I can see how it might be different if you don't have that to colour your view.

interesting, 'cause 10 little girls isn't even in my curve top 20.

Thirded

I heard Doppelganger first, then the Pubic Fruit compilation. Actually, Doppelganger was in the first batch of cds I ever bought after I got my first cd player in 1992. (Doppelganger, the Shakespeare's Sister album, and AC/DC's Back in Black...viva variety!)

Ten Little Girls is in my top Curve top ten, maybe even my top five. I didn't vote for it in this poll though (I voted for two other songs that haven't shown up yet).

Okay, looking forward to seeing everyone's lists in the shakedown now.

Shoegaze poll effect observed in the wild: Trayce, yr in my neighbours.

^ oops, in last.fm

Oh rly? Who you on lastfm?

Wait nm found yer.

:)

I don't know that I've ever heard the original of Listen Snow Is Falling. (or if I had, it was so long ago I had forgotten it) But <3 <3 <3

I don't even think this poll has anything to do with shoegaze any more, it's just "a cluster of songs that people who tend to like one, they like the other" with no regards to genre, really.

"yer" is a bizarre transliteration if you are an american

How?

I'm just assuming it's supposed to be pronounced like "ya" and not w/heavy american rhoticism??

"10 Little Girls" is the only Curve song I voted for, they're far from my favourite shoegaze band anyway.

I don't think people have been militant enough! The fact that something by Blur gets more votes than, say, "Off Your Face" in a shoegaze poll is crazy. But, y'know.

Crut: no, more like its spelt! "yer". Aussies slur everything.