ILM's Best Shoegaze / Dream Pop / Post-rock TRACKS poll - RESULTS THREAD

(3 votes, 126 points) niiiiice

I mean, I can see kind of where you're coming from but, in my book, a critical component of dreampop is "ethereal" and "Birthday" is weird, expansive, meandering, and all around awesome, but way too forceful a vocal performance to be considered "ethereal".

I wouldn't have The Sundays here but what can you do? They're not far away imo but they're not fuzzy at all and that's one of the top requirements for me. If there's ever a c86 poll they should be on that.

xxxpost: Yep last instance in this poll where a song gets that high with such lower number of points. We've got a pair of 4voters ahead tho.

The Sundays has more motion to them than most of the C86 bands, though, who were all pretty rigid.

Love this track dearly, but it did not fit within my self-set (and admittedly very rigid) voting parameters.

they'd clean up then

xpost. I'm thinking 'Birthday' as dreampop more from an instrumental perspective. Regarding the vocal performance, I agree with you.

Ok just to wrap up my last opinion on the sundays discussion. Dreampop's connection to shoegaze is atmospherical for the most part. The Sundays songs are too clean and polished to be considered dreampop imho, if maybe there was some sort of soundwall burying her voice or the acoustic guitars then maybe I could consider it dreampop. Even a reverb-soaked or echo-ey guitar would do.

This board got me to listen to Bark Psychosis a few years ago, btw. Didn't do a thing for me.

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55. Spiritualized - Run (4 votes, 127 points)
Lazer Guided Melodies (1992)
Youtube

^ 54 not 55.

I have that album with the name spelt 'Spritualized'

lol oops

Shine A Light and If I Were With Her Now and maybe Angel Sigh are my faves from that album, wonder if any of 'em will crop up (doubtful)

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53. Kitchens Of Distinction - Drive That Fast (7 votes, 128 points)
Strange Free World (1990)
Youtube

SUPER!

"Birthday" is weird, expansive, meandering, and all around awesome, but way too forceful a vocal performance to be considered "ethereal".

Yeah maybe, but it's closer to the Cranes or the Cocteaus or Hugo Largo or whoever than the Sundays ever were imo.

Run was my one Spiritualized vote iirc. It seems everyone other than me really took into account the genre appropriateness of the noms before voting. I didn't, just went with my favs on the list which resulted in at least a quarter of my ballot being filled with stuff I'd never call shoegaze OR dreampop.

This is the first thing I'd voted for to show up since Tuesday. xps

I think you meant this for Kitchens of Distinction

Very happy about the Kitchens of Distinction votes. One of the most underrated shoegaze bands I think.

Next one sounds goth-gaze to my ears and it aint the Cure.

I never really connected KoD to shoegaze, personally.

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52. Slowdive - morningrise (6 votes, 129 points)
Morningrise (1991)
Youtube

here's a Youtube of that song playable in the US

I got a bit bored with a lot of KoD, but 'Drive That Fast' still has the power to clobber me.

Guys I promised a friend I'd go jogging with her and she arrived early. I'm gonna leave you now and I'll be posting the following 10 when I get back in a couple of hours. Sorry.

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51. M83 - Don't Save Us From The Flames (4 votes, 130 points)
Before the Dawn Heals Us (2005)
Youtube

I'll be posting the following 10 when I get back in a couple of hours. Sorry.

UNACCEPTABLE! I'm just going to make up the next 10.

lol ok I'll give you a clue, 3 bands that haven't appeared so far appear twice in the following ten numbers.

Here's the bottom half of the top 100(+2) for those keeping track:

100. COCTEAU TWINS "Cherry Coloured Funk (1990) [90 points, 3 votes]
99. MAHOGANY "Supervitesse" (2006) [90 points, 4 votes]
98. MOOSE "Suzanne" (1991) [90 points, 5 votes]
97. SLOWDIVE "40 Days" (1993) [91 points, 3 votes]
96. LOW, TRANSIENT WAVES & PIANO MAGIC "Sleep at the Bottom" (1998) [92 points, 3 votes]
95. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Cupid Come" (1988) [92 points, 5 votes]
94. CRANES "Starblood" (1991) [93 points, 5 votes]
93. MOGWAI "Mogwai Fear Satan" (1997) [94 points, 5 votes]
92. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Loomer" (1991) [95 points, 5 votes]
91. BARDO POND "Tommy Gun Angel" (1997) [96 points, 4 votes]
90. LUSH "Nothing Natural" (1991) [97 points, 4 votes]
89. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Swallow" (1991) [97 points, 5 votes]
88. DNTEL "The Is the Dream of Evan and Chan" (2001) [98 points, 4 votes]
87. YO LA TENGO "From a Motel 6" (1993) [99 points, 6 votes]
TIE 86. SWERVEDRIVER "Never Lose That Feeling" (1993) [100 points, 3 votes]
TIE 86. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Lose My Breath" (1988) [100 points, 3 votes]
85. THE SUNDAYS "Skin and Bones" (1990) [101 points, 3 votes]
84. THE CHAMELEONS "View From a Hill" (1983) [101 points, 4 votes]
83. SLOWDIVE "Slowdive" (1990) [101 points, 5 votes]
82. GLENN BRANCA "Lesson No.1" (1980) [102 points, 4 votes]
81. DISCO INFERNO "Summer's Last Sound" (1992) [103 points, 4 votes]

80. JULEE CRUISE "Falling" (1989) [104 points, 6 votes]
79. SPACEMEN 3 "Suicide" (1989) [105 points, 4 votes]
78. M83 "Run Into Flowers" (2003) [106 points, 4 votes]
77. VERVE "A Man Called Sun" (1992) [107 points, 5 votes]
76. WIRE "The 15th" (1979) [108 points, 5 votes]
75. MOOSE "Jack" (1991) [109 points, 4 votes]
TIE 74. PALE SAINTS "Throwing Back the Apple" (1992) [110 points, 5 votes]
TIE 74. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "I Only Said" (1991) [110 points, 5 votes]
73. LUSH "For Love" (1992) [110 points, 6 votes]
72. THE TELESCOPES "High on Fire" (1992) [111 points, 4 votes]
71. SPACEMEN 3 "Hypnotized" (1989) [112 points, 4 votes]
70. RIDE "Taste" (1990) [113 points, 5 votes]
69. DISCO INFERNO "Second Language" (1994) [114 points, 4 votes]
68. SLOWDIVE "Souvlaki Space Station" (1993) [115 points, 7 votes]
67. THE HOUSE OF LOVE "Destroy the Heart" (1988) [116 points, 7 votes]
66. A.R. KANE "Lollita" (1987) [117 points, 3 votes]
65. RIDE "Drive Blind" (1990) [118 points, 3 votes]
64. CHAPTERHOUSE "Breather" (1990) [118 points, 7 votes]
63. GROUPER "Heavy Water / I'd Rather Be Sleeping" (2008) [119 points, 4 votes]
62. SLOWDIVE "Avalyn I" (1990) [120 points, 3 votes]
61. SPIRITUALIZED "Medication" (1992) [121 points, 5 votes]

60. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Off Your Face" (1990) [122 points, 4 votes]
59. TEENAGE FANCLUB "Star Sign" (1991) [123 points, 6 votes]
58. THE BOO RADLEYS "Does This Hurt?" (1992) [124 points, 5 votes]
57. THE SUNDAYS "Here's Where the Story Ends" (1990) [124 points, 6 votes]
56. COCTEAU TWINS "Heaven or Las Vegas" (1990) [125 points, 6 votes]
55. BARK PSYCHOSIS "A Street Scene" (1994) [126 points, 3 votes]
54. SPIRITUALIZED "Run" (1992) [127 points, 4 votes]
53. KITCHENS OF DISTINCTION "Drive That Fast" (1990) [128 points, 7 votes]
52. SLOWDIVE "Morningrise" (1991) [129 points, 6 votes]
51. M83 "Don't Save Us From the Flames" (2005) [130 points, 4 votes]

Yay, 'A Street Scene'! Can take or leave a lot of Bark Psychosis, but I love that track. Also 'Morningrise' was my only Slowdive vote, affection at least partly driven by the fact it was the first of theirs that I heard.

US-playable M83 Youtube

Could Slowdive give MBV a run for their money in terms of tracks that place?

er.. number of trax that place.

Right now it is 6-5 w/ MBV in the lead

& out there still are at least two big Souvlaki tracks & one early single. A shitload of MBV as well, obv.. o_O @"Machine Gun" & "Blue Skied an Clear" & "Waves" not being nominated.

it's all Slowdive and MBV from here on out PB...

my prediction for #1 = You Made Me Realise

From that last batch, my picks were "Off Your Face", which still might be my favourite MBV track; "Morningrise", and "Here's Where the Story Ends" - one of a few Sundays tracks I rounded off my ballot with. They don't fit the description of shoegaze or even dreampop in my book, but such is my love for Reading Writing and Arithmetic - best LP of the 1990s by a chalk of any length - that I couldn't resist throwing some of their songs into the mix. God, I love that album.

xp: callin it "Only Shallow"

Wow, heaps of people voted for "Does this Hurt?". (inc myself). Awesome x

Dang! I haven't been on ILM much and completely missed the voting for this. I would have given all my votes to "Sometimes" FWIW.

Aight I'm back. Let me drink water and I'll start.

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50. Loop - Arc-Lite (Sonar) (5 votes, 132 points)
Arc-Lite (1989)
Youtube

^Liking the sound of this one.

that song sounds very Oneida-y

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49. Blur - Sing (5 votes, 134 points)
Leisure - UK version (1991)
Youtube

^okay I def. voted for this & gave it a good amount of points too...

Brilliant song. Didn't vote for it but glad it made it to the top 50.

I had no idea this was only released in the UK version of the album. No wonder I've never heard of it until Trainspotting dug it out for us in the American continent.