funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

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this is a totally ilx-ish reference but it reminds me of luciano's "madre mother mere" or whatever it was called

deej, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 02:21 (fifteen years ago) link

ha it goes into an opera-y singing thing that sounds perfectly all over the place in a basement jaxx way. or maybe thats the next song?

deej, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 02:22 (fifteen years ago) link

and the vocal track @ 61:10 is killin it too

deej, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 02:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha ha Jess said to me in an e-mail that he really wants to hear the funky house track I described as sounding like Cadenza + Bounty Killer samples.

I will make some attempts at track IDs this evening folks - thanks for posting those mixes rtc and jacob!

"Right now it's much more like when people were talking about 'sunday scene' and 'RIPGroove' first came out and the potential that had to eventually evolve into 2step."

I dunno, couldn't you say the "sunday scene" moment was when "The Cure & The Cause" first blew up? I don't know whether these scenes map on to one another timewise really, but if I had to guess I'd say this is the equivalent of 1998 for 2-step.

Ha ha let's do track equivs:

"The Whole Night (Crazi Cousinz Mix)" = "My Desire (Dreem Teem Mix)"
"Feeline" = "Destiny"
"Bongo Jam" = "Straight From The Heart"
"Yellowtail" = "Spirit of the Sun (S. Gurley Mix)"
"Hypnotic" = "Sincere"
"Segalizer" = "Kaotic Madness"
"Leader" = "Madness On The Streets"

Tim F, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link

deej: http://youtube.com/watch?v=D8e4iWhQHYc

('live wire', nice try marcus!)

quite neat that rose windross should find herself in the midst of all this really.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link

and yeah otm it is very jaxxy indeed what with the fake capleton-sounding guy in there as well

also 61:10 vocal: http://www.myspace.com/djperempay

r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 03:30 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.myspace.com/urbance - i like this new 'to be vocalled soon i hope' melancholy banger on ng's page

(amazing pink bruise sunrise in ldn right now giving me a cheapo napa moment haha)

r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 04:01 (fifteen years ago) link

j@cob you notice the bit in your ravey one where it goes "mario play the bloodclaat bass"? yeah.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 04:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean don't get me wrong I think funky does suffer from being too girly/commercial sounding for most crits/bloggers to get excited about it, but it's also early days.

Dissensus/Wire-types are mystifyingly into Rustie and aquacrunk/wonky or whatevs rather than this stuff.

Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 07:42 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost: thanks!

Nobody else pick up on that tune? It's doing something quite different with the cheap synth sounds apple uses...

J@cob, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 08:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah "Mario Play The Bloodlclart" (that ravey tune) is great! The use of the synths feels like an extension on a kind of perky carnivalesque siren thing that quite a few tunes do - see Baby Faced Jay's "Tribal Zone" for example.

Tim F, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 09:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Carnivalesque = Jaxxy?

Jaxx:Funky :: Todd Edwards:2step?

J@cob, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 09:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes! This is why I'm hoping Basement Jaxx get counter-inspired on their next album and return to their roots a bit (and abandon their pointless recent attempts to beat nu-rave at its own game).

Tim F, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 11:05 (fifteen years ago) link

APHRODISIAX - UNFINISHED BUSINESS

OMG this is so fucking next level.

It's like a funky equiv. of James Lavonz's "Mash Up Da Venue" or the Bump & Flex Dancehall Dub of "All I Do".

Check the myspace for a sample:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=368460659

Actually it sorta sounds almost like IDM in isolation - better in the mix where its essential housiness shines through.

Tim F, Friday, 11 July 2008 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Their "Keep it Moving" is also massive, though again I didn't quite realise it till I heard it in the mix - in Footloose's show for this week.

Also on that mix, Bearfoot Monk's "Wearwolf" is another so-wired-it's-almost-IDM track - makes me think of The Black Dog.

Tim F, Friday, 11 July 2008 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Great Arms Remix of Lloyd's "How We Do It In The A" too.

Tim F, Friday, 11 July 2008 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

that Aphrodisiax track reminds me a lot of early Luciano, but ruffffer. which is a really really good thing!

feeling that Producer Mario track a very very great deal. is he the one behind that tune which samples Jagged Edge?

big up once again all of you guys bringing the sets and knowledge, massive appreciation

Marcus Nasty on 1xtra is sounding ridiculous

Benjamin, Monday, 14 July 2008 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Not really funky, but how nice is Davinche and Tinie Tempah - "Tears"? It's like funky is even re-galvanising grime to become sunnier and more clubby. He even says "Davinche, we bringing grime back to the clubs" in the intro...

(disclaimer goes here if this track is actually like 6 months old)

J@cob, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 03:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Fuck the current Footloose show is so good. Get on it before it disappears in maybe 24 hours or so!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/footloose/

Tim F, Monday, 21 July 2008 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Yo does anyone know the identity of that insane remix of "Bongo Jam" on the Marcus Nasty June show with Rankin? Not the DJ Naughty remix or the live version from their myspace, it's kind of rattling funk though.

Tim F, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 13:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Also the VIP remix of "Feeline" that's playing on the new Footloose show (follow the link above - it's about three songs in) is just insane.

Tim F, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

OMG Dub Boy's "Funky Underground" is more next level shit - those rolling drums!

Tim F, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 13:35 (fifteen years ago) link

this Footloose show is amazing, thanks Tim. these guys are demonstrating / cultivating an EMBARRASSMENT of riches. i cannot wait to get myself to a rave

Benjamin, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, I listened to this crap. Can I have the last eight minutes of my life back?

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lols

deej, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link

(gread stuff in this thread. i always imagine when i open this thread it'll just be a picture of someones ass or something. ok back to yall)

goole, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

"It does mystify me that there isn't more of a groundswell of support for this stuff. There's, like, 5 regulars on this thread? Grime got much more of a response from ILX/the world at large.

Am I the only one who thinks this music is clearly as exciting as that was? (probaby even more so?)"

No, I'm with you on that. Definite shades of 2003 grime for me but coupled with something I felt I missed by not catching 2-step in the moment. The energy's just too intoxicating. Growing interest has turned into unhealthy obsession for me in the last couple of months.

I only just discovered this gold mine of a discussion though, thanks to Siah I think. Here I was hanging around Dissensus wondering why the Funky thread there was so quiet...

paul nomos, Saturday, 26 July 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, this is basically 2-step redux for me, in terms of my relationship to the music. It's just so vibey. Except i got into 2-step in the second half of 99 when it was already fully-formed, pretty much. It feels like such a privilege to watch this music unfold before my ears.

Tim F, Sunday, 27 July 2008 13:04 (fifteen years ago) link

MORE VIBES, MORE PRESSURE

Tim F, Sunday, 27 July 2008 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Sound quality ain't the best but the Mak10 DejaVu FM set on Butterz has same bad boy tunes.

http://verybutterz.blogspot.com/2008/07/free-mixes-from-mak-10.html

Tim F, Monday, 28 July 2008 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link

hi thread! nothing much to say, happy to listen, happy to boggle at footloose playing 3 boss tunes as varied as

Donae’o – African Warrior
Delinquent ft Kcat – I Got You (Delio D’Cruz Mix)
Roska – Feeline VIP

straight out the gate and for it to still make total sense, happy to continue to let finney formation dat, left to the right. hurrah.

wondering what that ace carl craig 69-ey thing is in between marlon b 'funky angel' and fuzzy logic's 'work the love' about 1:84 into that show.

i should also like to add to the above (perhaps irrelevantly to some) that in listening to various other shows (ng/ma1/half of rinse these days) in lieu of marcus' singular uh, funky alembic i've been truly impressed at the health of the uk house scene in general, so much so that i could almost forgive them getting crabby about their new attention.

r|t|c, Monday, 28 July 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

havent yet heard jme's 'terminator' or 'blanka', but i'm thinking why bother waking up an old grime thread for this hotness eh

http://www.zshare.net/audio/16128003c4a554e1/

r|t|c, Monday, 28 July 2008 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

crazy cousinz newie called 'don't u like the way' is some swanky excellence

r|t|c, Monday, 28 July 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Feeline review is up at RA. Come bring the hate.

Jacobw, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 02:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Great piece Jacob! I wonder though how many people will know what "Destiny" is though...

You don't mention "Climate Change" the track in your review - what do you think of it?

I agree that "Pyramids" is kinda like a variation on a theme, like one of those Apple reworks of "Mr Bean".

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 02:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Roska didn't send me 'Climate change' as part of the promo pack so I don't actually know!

Jacobw, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Also - I preferred my original opening sentence - "this is not the house of your fathers" but editor changed that...

Jacobw, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 03:20 (fifteen years ago) link

as we were sitting down to dinner last night in like 100 degree heat some car parked outside our house and then started playing 'some times i wake up early in the morning, to play my con-con-congo' real loud. it was awesome.

t_g, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 07:49 (fifteen years ago) link

"Feeline is like dubstep with a sex drive"

Snickers quietly,

Right on Jacob.

Siah Alan, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:31 (fifteen years ago) link

"Roska didn't send me 'Climate change' as part of the promo pack so I don't actually know!"

:-( Where is my promo. Jacob download the Marcus Nasty "Sexy UK House Set" with Shantie on the mic (from Marcus's myspace) - it has a fabulous mix from Perempay's "Hypnotic" into "Climate Change", and Shantie's pretty great over it too.

It's kind of like a better, more impacting, more focused version of "Pyramids".

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 11:11 (fifteen years ago) link

oh there is an ilm thread, i had no idea! i spent much of the weekend getting into this - initial super-faves are the perempay & dee rmx of ma1/sophia's 'i'm right here' (so...blissful and generous), perempay and clea soul's 'time to let go' (she sounds like minnie riperton!), the tawiah rmx already mentioned here, and above all dj ng's 'tell me' - so ominous and propulsive!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 11:21 (fifteen years ago) link

"happy to boggle at footloose"

Yeah I'm increasingly thinking that Footloose is such an interesting selector, he's so rangy and unpredictable, though Marcus has the advantage of MCs.

But, like, that Suges "We Belong To The Night" track, which isn't even UK funky and is (I can only assume) pretty obscure, works perfectly enmeshed with pretty fucked up tracks from Aphrodisiax and the like. His sets are full of this kind of intuitive connection.

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

does anyone know of any archived Footloose shows? i'd love to have some to listen to away from the computer... agree 100% with the sentiments expressed above, he is a superb dj, amazing selection and sequencing

enjoyed your blog piece Tim

Benjamin, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

But, like, that Suges "We Belong To The Night" track, which isn't even UK funky and is (I can only assume) pretty obscure, works perfectly enmeshed with pretty fucked up tracks from Aphrodisiax and the like. His sets are full of this kind of intuitive connection.

yeah. at least one can rest smug in the knowledge we won't hear any dj gregory or seamus haji, though.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

That DJ Gregory remix that starts off this week's show is excellent!

I think this is the key to Footloose's use of more "conventional" US house - quality control. Perhaps because he's not invested in some notion of the UK funky house scene as an elaborate homage to the US he seems to plump only for particularly catchy/inventive US tracks.

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link

i take it his all-american house special for the 4th july was good then?

r|t|c, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Probably, but I didn't catch that one so I'm not sure. Looks good though - lots of Kenny Dope.

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link

tsk, set up the trap and now i cant be bothered. i agree with your original assertion of footloose as master juxtaposer, but then the idea that he's only like, creaming off the top of boring old house - i mean would you really have noticed 'we belong to the night' as something special if it were in a less kaleido context? i wouldntve. this follows on (praps overdeterminedly) from jacob's dig, which, while probably just being a well-meaning lunge for a bit of hype, also rings somewhat unfairly: "younger, hungrier, and freed almost entirely from the Chicago tradition" - young, hungry and free enough to giddily embrace chicago tradition until its not tradition anymore, maybe?

it's gonna be v interesting listening to a new set by marcus & co after all this footsie fun, anyway.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

also o what joy to hear footloose say his mix of 'thats gangsta' is doing well and has a video that'll be on mtv! hah if some batshit spazz stomper with sheek louch shouting out d-block over and over ends up caning the charts then i actually will enlist in the navy or something ready 2 die for this excellent island.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link

really can't decide what to rave about most so far - maybe seani b 'lift me up', another vintage nasty crew style carnival tank; fuzzy logik 'cuban linq' and funky akatriel 'on & on', more salsa madness; or maybe the malice rmx of quentin harris, which is just fucking jawdropping

r|t|c, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Dream Sellers – House Music Lives: a banger that doesnt lie

r|t|c, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link


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