ILM's Best Shoegaze / Dream Pop / Post-rock TRACKS poll - RESULTS THREAD

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I think I voted for two mbv, possibly three - none have appeared yet anyway. I mostly find it hard to differentiate between their tracks actually. If they hadn't released singles I probably couldn't tease the Loveless stuff out at all.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for 6 MBV songs but "Lose My Breath" is the only one I voted for that's come up on the list so far

crüt (markers) (crüt) (markers) (crüt) (markers) (crüt), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

& that's also the one I gave the most points to

crüt (markers) (crüt) (markers) (crüt) (markers) (crüt), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost -- Let's just say I should have voted for 'Taste' and 'Soon.' I had a couple of spots left too!

righteousmaelstrom, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I kind of think that the whole MBV songs are hard to tell apart is slightly crap...I don't really have a problem telling apart the three songs I voted for...(but then again maybe each track has certain earmarks that each of us fall in love with...?)

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

"...the whole 'MBV songs are hard to tell apart' complaint..."

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe ... I blame vinyl a bit - for an album like that, you don't get the chance to break it up like on cd or tape

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I can see that...

hmmm...turns out I cut the Spiritualized track at the last minute; only four for me today....

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Sorry I missed most of it live, I was out:

100. COCTEAU TWINS "Cherry Coloured Funk (1990) [90 points, 3 votes]
99. MAHOGANY "Supervitesse" (2006) [90 points, 4 votes]
98. MOOSE "Suzanne" (1991) [90 points, 5 votes]
97. SLOWDIVE "40 Days" (1993) [91 points, 3 votes]
96. LOW, TRANSIENT WAVES & PIANO MAGIC "Sleep at the Bottom" (1998) [92 points, 3 votes]
95. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Cupid Come" (1988) [92 points, 5 votes]
94. CRANES "Starblood" (1991) [93 points, 5 votes]
93. MOGWAI "Mogwai Fear Satan" (1997) [94 points, 5 votes]
92. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Loomer" (1991) [95 points, 5 votes]
91. BARDO POND "Tommy Gun Angel" (1997) [96 points, 4 votes]
90. LUSH "Nothing Natural" (1991) [97 points, 4 votes]
89. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Swallow" (1991) [97 points, 5 votes]
88. DNTEL "The Is the Dream of Evan and Chan" (2001) [98 points, 4 votes]
87. YO LA TENGO "From a Motel 6" (1993) [99 points, 6 votes]
TIE 86. SWERVEDRIVER "Never Lose That Feeling" (1993) [100 points, 3 votes]
TIE 86. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Lose My Breath" (1988) [100 points, 3 votes]
85. THE SUNDAYS "Skin and Bones" (1990) [101 points, 3 votes]
84. THE CHAMELEONS "View From a Hill" (1983) [101 points, 4 votes]
83. SLOWDIVE "Slowdive" (1990) [101 points, 5 votes]
82. GLENN BRANCA "Lesson No.1" (1980) [102 points, 4 votes]
81. DISCO INFERNO "Summer's Last Sound" (1992) [103 points, 4 votes]

80. JULEE CRUISE "Falling" (1989) [104 points, 6 votes]
79. SPACEMEN 3 "Suicide" (1989) [105 points, 4 votes]
78. M83 "Run Into Flowers" (2003) [106 points, 4 votes]
77. VERVE "A Man Called Sun" (1992) [107 points, 5 votes]
76. WIRE "The 15th" (1979) [108 points, 5 votes]
75. MOOSE "Jack" (1991) [109 points, 4 votes]
TIE 74. PALE SAINTS "Throwing Back the Apple" (1992) [110 points, 5 votes]
TIE 74. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "I Only Said" (1991) [110 points, 5 votes]
73. LUSH "For Love" (1992) [110 points, 6 votes]
72. THE TELESCOPES "High on Fire" (1992) [111 points, 4 votes]
71. SPACEMEN 3 "Hypnotized" (1989) [112 points, 4 votes]
70. RIDE "Taste" (1990) [113 points, 5 votes]
69. DISCO INFERNO "Second Language" (1994) [114 points, 4 votes]
68. SLOWDIVE "Souvlaki Space Station" (1993) [115 points, 7 votes]
67. THE HOUSE OF LOVE "Destroy the Heart" (1988) [116 points, 7 votes]
66. A.R. KANE "Lollita" (1987) [117 points, 3 votes]
65. RIDE "Drive Blind" (1990) [118 points, 3 votes]
64. CHAPTERHOUSE "Breather" (1990) [118 points, 7 votes]
63. GROUPER "Heavy Water / I'd Rather Be Sleeping" (2008) [119 points, 4 votes]
62. SLOWDIVE "Avalyn I" (1990) [120 points, 3 votes]
61. SPIRITUALIZED "Medication" (1992) [121 points, 5 votes]

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

So I guess if #74 was the last of the ties, that means "Supervitesse" and "Cherry Coloured Funk" are both overrun.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Lolita was my joint number one so it's a bit sad to see it languishing down at the arse end of this poll. I guess it's a good deal more obscure than it ought to be due to its terrible lack of availability, but anyhow - I have always loved both its perfect bone-like fragility and its outbursts of woozy violence, all smoke and smashed bedroom mirrors. That whole EP is great, really looking forward to it getting reissued.

Threw minor points at the House of Love and Grouper songs too, puts me at 5 out of forty.

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

'High on Fire' was my number one, natch. It's the pinnacle of their shoegaze period as far as I'm concerned.

This was my number one also.

OK, only three songs from my ballot so far. I suspect I'm going to be the outlier here.

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I had four make it yesterday, none today. I might have considered "Lollita" if I had more of a history with A.R. Kane. They're a group I've heard, but have never spent much time with despite meaning to do just that for years and years.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I love A.R. Kane...voted Lollita, prolley should've voted Up but ran out of space...the song I gave the most points to, and my favorite thing of theirs that I've heard, is the b-side of their first single, called So Far Away...

if there is any band that needs to collect their early singles onto a single disc, it's this one!!!

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

That Spiritualized thing is just horrible, imho.

like an ant to a crumb (DavidM), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link

ha that is one of only three spz songs i can stand to listen to

dronestorm (electricsound), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link

"Medication" is my favorite Spiritualized song. Period.

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link

"Avalyn" is incredible, I had it on my ballot and then took it off in favour of "Allison". Not totally sure why I did that!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link

JFAD underrated imo, but I don't think I represent the typical Slowdive fan because I don't like the other two records much at all.

this is me as well. i find the second one ok but i have never warmed to pygmalion

dronestorm (electricsound), Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link

No Boo Radleys yet??

village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link

woo, 3 of mine got in but all way too low. drive blind, breather and avalyn 1 all should have been top 10. only 3 votes for drive blind? really? good thing i gave it a ton of points.

keythhtyek, Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link

2 of mine from today's lot. i'm guessing my ride/slowdive/mbv choices will not be among the popular ones

dronestorm (electricsound), Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

77. VERVE "A Man Called Sun" - ended up voting for two Verve songs and both come from one two song EP.

75. MOOSE "Jack" (1991) - my number five song. i think i saw every other shoegaze band live but not this one.

74. PALE SAINTS "Throwing Back the Apple" (1992) - voted for two very different songs from this band. my nickname from one of my friends was Pale Saint.

72. THE TELESCOPES "High on Fire" (1992) - my song by the Telescopes was "You Set My Soul."

68. SLOWDIVE "Souvlaki Space Station" (1993) - my number 33

61. SPIRITUALIZED "Medication" (1992) - my number 15

...Ride...

Bee OK, Thursday, 28 October 2010 04:18 (thirteen years ago) link

only Telescopes I'd heard before this thread was "Kick the Wall" which I've always liked, and now see I must have bought at an early gig. Listened to the As Approved comp today, and see that there's a lot to like, especially the early tracks. Gets the sweet-scrapy balance right.

bendy, Thursday, 28 October 2010 05:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I want to hug all the people responsible for creating and executing this poll

And not just any hug, but a hug that lasts a half-second too long and makes you think "wow. was there something to that hug? does he like me as more than just a friend?"

Cunga, Thursday, 28 October 2010 08:17 (thirteen years ago) link

both come from one two song EP. - nitpicking here, but if yr referring to the 'All in the Mind' EP, there were three tracks.

Hugo Stiglitz, a rich young man in search of romance & adventure (Pillbox), Thursday, 28 October 2010 08:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Gah. I'm away from home this week with limited and very sporadic internet access, so missing most of this. I like the look of the list so far: there are six of my votes in there, plus at least another five that were on my long list. At some point I'll get around to listening to the things I don't know (I have to confess I hardly know any Cocteau Twins, for example). Just skimming through, so maybe this has already been mentioned, but the artwork for 'Taste' is wrong.

Running the Gantelope (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 28 October 2010 09:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Pedantic git.

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 28 October 2010 09:09 (thirteen years ago) link

PS it's wrong for 'Destroy The Heart' too.

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 28 October 2010 09:09 (thirteen years ago) link

No Boo Radleys yet??

Votes spread too thinly between all the nominated tracks? I voted for some, but I doubt the ones I voted for picked up many/any votes from anyone else. When the final spreadsheet is up I'll add up all the votes on a group-by-group basis: I think they'll have done better on that basis than they will have done for individual tracks. I voted for quite a lot of Ride, too, but I suspect they'll also suffer from having so many songs nominated.

There were some great songs below the top 100 that didn't make it even tho several of you were enthused by them and gave them top scores

Hmmmm. I'm wondering if my no.1 hasn't made the cut. I was a bit surprised by my choice myself, but it was the song I most enjoyed listening to while I was sorting out my ballot. Without giving anything away I'll be staggered if no.2 doesn't appear, though.

Running the Gantelope (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 28 October 2010 09:14 (thirteen years ago) link

surprised and happy to see Avalyn I chart (was Avalyn II nominated? these days I might even prefer that one)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 28 October 2010 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Where you at, Moka?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey, I'm here. Yeah you guys are right covers for the Fall Ep and House of Love are wrong.

Ok let's get this started.

Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Yay!

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/MyBloodyValentineGlider.jpg
60. My Bloody Valentine - Off Your Face (4 votes, 122 points)
Glider (1990)
Youtube

Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I used to have 20 or 30 promo flats for this EP because the record store I went to most in the early '90s just piled all that shit by the front door. I never ended up using them for anything, sadly.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Piled on the floor so you would see it while you were gazing at your shoes obv.

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

http://triciclodearte.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/teenage_fanclub_bandwagonesque-1991.jpg
59. Teenage Fanclub - Star Sign (6 votes, 123 points)
Bandwagonesque (1991)
Youtube

Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Um...okay

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

For those who were there: when did mbv start to get feted? They were already way legendary by mid-'91 when I came along. Glider seems like their big leap forward to me.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

xxpost: lol had the same thought when I read Johnny's post.

Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

aw c'mon Johnny it's fuzzy enough to be shoegaze...

Capt. Extra Tomato (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I love 'Star Sign' but I couldn't vote for it here. Don't begrudge them being here though - they don't really fit anywhere else.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

'You Made Me Realise' was when the UK music weeklies really sat up and took notice. xps

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Aight, Boo fans, rejoice:

Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98/BoosEverything.jpg
58. Boo Radleys - Does This Hurt? (5 votes, 124 points)
Everything's Alright Forever (1992)
Youtube

Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

IIRC, NME was doing a "best of the 80s" round up in early 89, and they already included Isn't Anything. Which was like 10 weeks old at the time.

bendy, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Didn't vote for any Teenage Fanclub as I couldn't think of anything that I thought fit the remit. Still don't think 'Star Sign' is shoegazing or dreampop (been ignoring 'post-rock' in the title as I don't think anybody really voted for pure post-rock here... in fact I don't think there was even very much nominated).

emil.y, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

DI = first wave of post-rock

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

'Off Your Face' sounds great on my tiny, tinny phone speaker - kevin shields must be turning in his grave

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link


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