T/S: Defamer v. Gawker

i liked tom scoccas take on the profile even if i didnt entirely agree with it

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/scocca/archive/2010/10/11/nick-denton-is-in-the-new-yorker.aspx

aw caek ive never heard a bigger compliment in my life

"geek sites do better than gossip sites" doesnt necc mean "gossip sites lose money"

and yeah, it wasnt just classifieds that propped up newspapers. it was auto sections, home buyer's guides, lifestyle specials. twas ever thus.

i dunno, maybe you could try a little sprinkling of british-inflected class angst? xxp

"geek sites do better than gossip sites" doesnt necc mean "gossip sites lose money"

― candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, October 26, 2010 4:30 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

right, and it's web publishing, which is not a business that lives or dies on profit margins. if you're not losing money you're ok.

this blog will beat them all: http://hroexegesis.com

wait is max's nom de plume really named after a character out of a philip k dick novel

I don't read gawker but maybe this is what pushes me over the edge

the posts are coming from inside the half-life chamber

read hroexegesis instead

As in many of his writings, Carles is here concerned with the ways in which neoliberalism has stripped subjects of the very presumption of security as an anchoring concept around which to develop a reflexive sense of self.

a bit http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=82861

dude also writes http://www.popmatters.com/pm/blogs/marginal-utility/

but let's just hope hroexegesis really is a joke

That Slate blog post is great - nice way of nailing what feels off about Denton's quotes. There's no joy in there. That, more than the financial aspect, is what depressed me about the piece. No disrespect to max or anyone who else who writes for Gawker but great editors project passion for the form, whatever that form may be. Denton (here at least) just projects pragmatism. He hates the old media but can't seem to match it with love for the new.

he's the publisher not the editor no?

So? He's the guy who's personality and vision shapes the whole enterprise.

i would judge the product, not the personality of the boss as it comes across in magazine profiles, tbh

i dont think anyone actually believes nick denton is going to take over and shape all media ever.

i would judge the product, not the personality of the boss as it comes across in magazine profiles, tbh

― candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, October 26, 2010 1:02 PM (2 minutes ago)

The product doesn't exactly contradict the personality of the boss as it comes across in magazine profiles tbh but I think you're misreading and exaggerating my argument to a peculiar degree.

Gawker.tv makes me irrationally angry. I keep getting tricked into clicking on their links from the main Gawker site and just getting disappointed every time

like you get mad that you're getting the b-team's commentary on an snl nip slip

i mean it's just such a wildly noticeable drop in quality that it's disconcerting

or at least one that doesn't have gawker's self-referencial/ironic/deprecating eye because Gawker.tv is as shameless about OMG LOOKIE AT THIS THING for completely boring inconsequential link-grabbing buuullshit as like Perez Hilton or Oh No They Did Not

when you see [Gawker.TV] at the end of a post dont click on it

or if a story's called "Gawker.TV: The Five Best Videos Ever of the Day" you probably should just not click on it either

some gawker tv shit is great (like during the late night war) but other stuff is overhyped, yeah -- oh well

guy who posts late-night gawker.tv links used to be an ONTD moderator, so no surprises there.

he was also the one who didn't know who laurie anderson was, leading to much mirth and merriment.

Re: The guy who wrote an article on his date with Christine O'Donnell... I don't often resort to the term "stooping to someone's level," but Jesus Christ I need to move out of this country, it's filled with such morally hideous human beings.

^^as well as being a repugnant thing to print, that piece wasn't even a good story! like, gawker failing at journalistic ethics is duh, but that thing failed as gossip too

Totally unsurprising, though, surely? It's not like it's out of character for Gawker. Are people biting their tongues about the site because a well-liked poster here writes for it?

Um, no?

via well-liked poster max: http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/scocca/archive/2010/10/29/gawker-s-non-penetrating-christine-o-donnell-story-makes-a-good-case-for-abstinence.aspx

so nice to hear that im well-liked!

no, you're well, "liked"

read that as asterisks

*likes max*

you're likable enough, max

you're like, ENOUGH, max

you're like max

The San Francisco baseball Giants just won the World Series!

max, what word in this sentence is completely superfluous? Hint: The Meadowlands are not in Marin County.

[Pop star Rihanna participates in the dastardly conspiracy to start Christmas early by appearing at a mall in London to turn on the "Christmas lights," surrounded by "rebellious flowers." Photo via AP.]

someone's overcompensating for a 'british-inflected' burn

The San Francisco baseball Giants just won the World Series!

max, what word in this sentence is completely superfluous? Hint: The Meadowlands are not in Marin County.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, November 2, 2010 1:23 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

morbs

http://gawker.com/5690499/an-american-apparel-employee-says-goodbye-dov-charney-is-an-ethical-pervert?skyline=true&s=i

this is p desperate

ASSISTANT BACKSTOCK MANAGER

http://gizmodo.com/5690749/

983,440 page views

the power of drudge

can tell why lifehacker and gizmodo are the money spinners in this operation

http://lifehacker.com/5693312/make-mashed-potatoes-for-just-two-people

don't forget about the classic

http://lifehacker.com/5379940/how-to-clean-your-debit-and-credit-cards

good god