Taylor Swift - Speak Now (Oct 2010) - hype, anticipation &c

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markers, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link

just listened all the way through for the first time. my list of outright winners: mine, sparks fly, back to december, dear john, mean, the story of us, never grow up, better than revenge, last kiss. songs i like and might get to like more: enchanted, innocent, haunted. songs i feel pretty eh about: speak now, long live. and there's a good chance of upward revisions of at least a few of those. good record. now i'm going to listen again.

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost: really? "long live" feels pretty victory lap-ish to me, and not just in its lyrics. it's ok, but reminds me of "change" in being a sort of empty, crowd-pleasing closer.

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

it is a total victory rap! and it's not empty at all to my ears! it's triumphant!

markers, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

uh, victory lap

markers, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

would buy a Taylor Swift rap record tho

markers, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 02:40 (thirteen years ago) link

it'll sound good in stadiums, for sure.

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 02:40 (thirteen years ago) link

the timpani drums on 'enchanted' are a great touch

dayo, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 02:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I adore "Change" too, fwiw

markers, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link

How could you not want to smash

http://www.drfunkenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/john1.jpg

Tim F, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link

He's okay from the neck up, honestly.

raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man "enchanted", holy shit

avoyoungdro's number (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link

holy shit holy shit

avoyoungdro's number (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link

that kelly shit in the chorus - tay how long have you been able to do that, what the fuck

avoyoungdro's number (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link

who is "long live" to, anyway? all i can think is maybe hayley williams?

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link

and i have thought this about her before, but the new album reinforces that she could really teach a master class in bridge-writing. even the weaker songs have great bridges.

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm never gonna finish this album if i keep repeating "enchanted"

god she fucking goes for it all here huh

avoyoungdro's number (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 04:19 (thirteen years ago) link

"never grow up" i think is a pretty sophisticated piece of writing, the way it slowly reveals that she's talking to/about herself. and, i mean, it ends pretty darkly otm: "i just realized everything i have is someday gonna be gone." word.

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 04:26 (thirteen years ago) link

OTM about "Never Grow Up" except the chorus is a bit too one note and the production on the entire song feels very thin compared with its surroundings. I dunno. It's not bad, it just doesn't entirely work. Haunted is another grower. Otherwise, this is all leaps and bounds, pretty much.

The SBurbs (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 04:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i like how "story of us" steals all the good parts from "mr. brightside." (which is mostly the chorus. her verses are better.)

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 04:44 (thirteen years ago) link

(predict eventual massive-hit status for that song, btw.)

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 04:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Um...also

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvRq_bbgmWg

The O.G. version of Sparks Fly is apparently a bit more risque? Noticed a comment somewhere about how she'd rewritten the lyrics, and the original seems to be about a hotel bar hook up? The writing and imagery on this version are probably stronger - not sure why it got rewritten, but nonetheless, an interesting look at her creative process either way.

The SBurbs (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link

"dear john" is just...

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 October 2010 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link

But I took your matches before fire could catch me so don't look now.
I'm shining like fireworks over your sad, empty town.

^^the drawing out of the last syllable & the rest of the song is the mot wrenching thing she's ever written

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 October 2010 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link

"never grow up" pretty much nullifies that slant article completely

dayo, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 05:33 (thirteen years ago) link

But I took your matches before fire could catch me so don't look now.
I'm shining like fireworks over your sad, empty town.

^^the drawing out of the last syllable & the rest of the song is the mot wrenching thing she's ever written

This, but also that blues guitar line that tears it up underneath this entire last bit, which reminds me of...well...Try/Continuum-era Mayer, tbqfh, but actually emotionally affecting.

The SBurbs (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link

"better than revenge" reminds me of fall out boy

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 October 2010 05:56 (thirteen years ago) link

you guys, taylor swift is coming to hong kong!

guess I need to find someone to go with me so that it doesn't seem I'm being a perv by going alone

dayo, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 07:08 (thirteen years ago) link

On the season premiere of The Simpsons, there was a gag where surly, misanthropic bartender Moe shows up at a coffeehouse open mic night. Taking the stage right after the Flight of the Conchords guys, he strolls out with a guitar and says, "If you have kids, you may want to take them out. I'm going to be getting into some very dark areas here." That's kind of what the songs I've heard here remind me of, not in a jokey way, but this young woman is clearly working through some very personal shit on this record, in ways that are sometimes profoundly uncomfortable to listen to! "Dear John" and "Never Grow Up," you almost need a double shot of whiskey while you're listening to those, because holy crap.

Title track, though, is -- to me, a very casual listener of her stuff prior to now -- a pretty great lyrical and musical leap for her! It's almost a Merseybeat song. I could see The Bangles circa 1984 doing that song.

Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 12:40 (thirteen years ago) link

But I took your matches before fire could catch me so don't look now.
I'm shining like fireworks over your sad, empty town.

^^the drawing out of the last syllable & the rest of the song is the mot wrenching thing she's ever written

^^^^^^so otm. voice rising like a firework - aargh what is this device called, it's on the tip of my tongue. not quite onomatopoeia - where the voice mimics the meaning of the word. aargh.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

noticed that the average song length on this album is a lot longer than on her previous albums - need to listen to it more to see if she's using the extra time effectively

dayo, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

what if she isn't. what then.

bitch i might be (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link

burn her at the stake I guess

dayo, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link

you almost need a double shot of whiskey

lifted right now and this album sounds pretty damn fucking good tbh

dayo, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link

this is making my day which was going badly feel a lot better. sure to be end of year top 5.

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

i haven't been able to listen to the whole album yet; keep hitting songs that just end up on repeat.

The Saga of the Unkillable Mr. Poppins (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

so finally listened to this thru. when this album is good, it's great (echo'ing other Dear John praises specifically), but sometimes it really feels same'y. more of the same from taylor swift is not necessarily a bad thing, but it definitely seems like the kind of album whose sound i'll get burnt out on in a few weeks.

Mordy, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

trying to work up a coherent thought on the rhythm of her words. i think it's one of the hidden keys to her songs, why they hook and snag the way they do. she's very good at pacing and spacing and rhythmic dynamics, she does a lot of things like run a couple syllable-heavy lines together and then stretch out the melody over the next one or two lines. in the chorus of "back to december," there's this very deliberate dah-dah-dah/dah-dah-dah 16th-note rhythm in the first lines but then "back to de-cem-ber" is played as an 8th-note triplet that completely interrupts the flow and emphasizes the sadness of the lyric. anyway, i think it's something she does really well, it's one of the ways she builds tension and release in her songs.

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link

in retrospect mine kinda blows, but all the songs after it are great

the importance of being furnace (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link

*thinks*

^ uh no (markers), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I still like "Mine," but I might like "Long Live" more

markers, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link

in retrospect mine kinda blows

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link

i never minded it before, heard it on the radio a bunch, acknowledged it was worse than previous singles but still good enough

now that the album is out and has really great songs that are way better its like, i just dont need it anymore

the importance of being furnace (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link

ice cold

markers, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i think it's her best single after "love story" & "teardrops on my guitar"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link

"Last Kiss" and "Long Live" are a stupendous finale.

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i'm warming up to "long live." it's hard to resist. and "last kiss" is going to be cried to in the dark all over america.

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link

you can plan for a change in the weather and time / but i never planned on you changing your mind

and then that long, drawn-out pause

The SBurbs (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link

and no way is 'mine' her third-best single, j0rdan.

The SBurbs (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link

it's not bad, it's just such a throwback compared to the other stuff on here. it's kind of taylor-by-the-numbers, signs of maturity and drawers-at-his-place aside.

The SBurbs (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link


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