Salem - What kind of music genre is this ?

imo btw chillwave & rapegaze are noble but failed attempts by this generation to come up with a term as stupid as "post-rock" but better luck next time you guys, we are dumber by far and "post-rock" is the proof

"shitgaze" however I gotta hand it to you, that one had us running scared for a minute

― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 11:26 (11 hours ago)

I dunno man, "BLOG HOUSE" has everything beat for me.

lol yeah point taken there

i get the impression "rape gaze" is meant to be a twist on "male gaze" rather than a ref to shoegaze

― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:33 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i get the impression "bedrock" is meant to be an display of Drake's sexual prowess rather than a reference to Fred Flintstone's hometown of Bedrock

i don't know who you're even trying to zing there, or on what basis

on the basis of a joke about shoegaze/shitgaze/etcgaze

just heard "king night" on eurosport as incidental music for a skiing trailer. it's found its natural home! no zing it genuinely sounded pretty good in that context.

Should probably change their name to Slalem

i don't know who you're even trying to zing there, or on what basis

double entendre, yo.

thanks for that patronising explanation! "whiney's just being a dick again" would have sufficed.

i don't know whether this interview with the one band that's actually used the phrase has been linked, but it prob should be - http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2010/10/the_horrifyingl.php

in the context of just one all-female band using it, i think the phrase isn't something to be outraged over, and w/r/t the kind of music they make actually pretty interesting, though i think their "it was just a joke" line in that i/v is a bit of a cop-out (though i don't get the impression they were given much time to go into detail); it's pretty much like calling something "murder rap" or "horrorcore" or "death metal".

^^ Agree w/r/t all female band BUT surely all of this stuff is far too style mag to get away with flirting with offensiveness in a manner actually equiv to death metal et al. The fact they're already distancing themselves is evidence of this. It just seems so smug-indie which is the really offensive part surely.

thanks for that patronising explanation!

also have i done something to offend you recently or what.

Tim smug-indie=offensive begs "what's wrong with being sexy?"

rape gaze is sexy?

ha that was going to be my question

If I was a rape victim I know I'd think it was awesome if someone equated rape gaze and male gaze. You know it's never occurred to me that Andrea Dworkin might be right before.

this genre is called shit.

Weingarten is dead right about Demdike Stare. That album is phenomenal.

Plus, given that they seem to be inspired by the Pendle Witch coven, I'd imagine cries of cultural appropriation would be less vigorous and pertinent.

Andrea Dworkin was some kind of genius. A true radical. I would happily see Danny Baker go to the gallows for shouting shut up and shave at her. RIP.

according to twitter, creep - the "rape gaze" women - are currently working with nina sky???????

I just don't understand how that genre tag even caught on to the point where we have to hold a discussion about it. Should have just been left to wither on whatever blog it originated on.

from.

yeah really. who cares what genre it is when its horrendous noise.

Everything this band is doing is sexier than Lady Gaga.

we definitely need to hear from music critics and message board nerds about what music is 'sexy'

Wait, "rape gaze"? wtf?

^ this

Some crits are bigger than other, J0rdan.

Weingarten is dead right about Demdike Stare. That album is phenomenal.

^ and this

too bad he's so wrong about mark mcguire, but

tbf, i'm not going to say i really gave McGuire more than 20 seconds of my time

This thread is making me uncertain about my ability to read and understand the English language.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h279/juicyfrt/Salem.jpg

Everything this band is doing is sexier than Lady Gaga.

― cee-oh-tee-tee, Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:04 PM (1 hour ago)

this is my favorite post in this entire thread

want salem to cover shiny happy people.

Rap guy would prolley make a great Fred Schneider.

they should do i'm too sexy by right said fred

lol.

Weingarten is dead right about Demdike Stare. That album is phenomenal.

The two twelve-inches the group has releases this year are so badass.

"On the state of music journalism: the NYTImes Mag review of our Salem party last Tues was written by one of the bartenders at said party."

http://twitter.com/#!/RebeccaSmeyne/status/28515305864
http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/21/salem-the-sound-of-givenchy/?ref=t-magazine

wait, they spent more words on Liv Tyler's outfit than they did on the band and their set

lol

i made yall a mixtape

http://bit.ly/ghostbusting

smh

haw

^^ Agree w/r/t all female band BUT surely all of this stuff is far too style mag to get away with flirting with offensiveness in a manner actually equiv to death metal et al. The fact they're already distancing themselves is evidence of this. It just seems so smug-indie which is the really offensive part surely.

― Tim F, Thursday, 21 October 2010 13:04 (1 week ago) Bookmark

See, before I read anything about them, Salem seemed to me to fit in ostensibly with the death metal/industrial/darkwave continuum (possibly encapsulating horrorcore etc), and in a way they still do. So I don't feel particularly shocked by terms like "rapegaze", when people like VSnares, Throbbing Gristle and countless others also play with irreverant sexual/violent imagery as part of their steez.
I also don't know if my opinion of Salem et al has been sullied by threads like this, but I find it confusing that many people equate them with bad hipster culture - I don't hear or see this in anything other than maybe the odd interview comment and certain sartorial choices. The only "hipster" act I would really relate them to is Crystal Castles. These people just aren't fashionable enough to be hipsters.

you're one of those posters that doesn't think they're a hipster, right?

Maybe they're just juggasters.

i made yall a mixtape

http://bit.ly/ghostbusting

― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:17 AM

(((((((d-_-b)))))))

xposts It reminds me of when people started calling Sunn O))) a hipster band, just because their sixth or seventh (can't check right now) album suddenly got Pitchfork plaudits after years and years of them simply being ignored by anyone outside the metal/noise scene.

except SunnO)))'s big coming out party for their band wasn't at the Fader Fort

you're one of those posters that doesn't think they're a hipster, right?

― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 28 October 2010 14:32 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

being a british suburbanite, i only really hear about hipsters through the internet, but i wouldn't deny being one because i'm interested in fashion and music. i think i was behind you on the hipster clusterfuck thread, whiney.

good man, dog latin

PS:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/images/blogimages/2010/03/20/1269103721-p1110980.jpg