Salem - What kind of music genre is this ?

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i don't know why people are acting like anyone's said it's a genre name when it's been used by ONE group though (and as a descriptor, not a genre)

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link

really want to add more to this discussion but kinda busy trying to figure out what my newly invented genre "rental house" is going to sound like

guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

lots of Moog

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

'post-ghost'

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link

where can you rent a moog these days

borad.crutial.org (crüt), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

i record u.k. council house under the name dj corbusier. its a mix of oi! and techstep.

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Scott, that is the best dj name ever!

Picker of Shelves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link

"when it comes to uk council house, pass the corbusier"
-nme

"open goal, really"
-Q

guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Innocuous threads that make you irrationally happy (a list thread)

Picker of Shelves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

vibing 2 some zanelowecore

c▲zen (cozen), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw Salem play last night. It wasn't quite Fader Fort levels of badness, but it wasn't far off. I haven't heard the album, but the beats at this show just sounded like lame tinny presets ripped straight out of a cheap drum machine. The rapper guy did his stuff early and then went off to sit and talk to a group of their friends, who were all gathered at the side of the stage. It all felt very half-assed. Rapper guy seemed to be laughing most of the time when he was doing his thing, and I started to wonder if this is even a serious band. I mean, if you've got a band member on stage visibly talking to other people through half the set then I'm guessing you don't take your music very seriously.

Position Position, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

ha -- so much for blaming the fader fort sound guy, eh?

swvl, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

if I went to a Salem show and it wasn't either totally horrible or really, really great I'd be disappointed

markers, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I was there last night too.

Opened with some new track that was the dude (not the rapper) doing some slowed down BM riffing while the girl played synths over; basically Le Tigre meets Xasthur.

After that they had the rapper dude come out for two tracks. They played one new track that was pretty much straight party rap and then Sick (when he was singing the chorus and going SIXSIXSIX throwing his hands up it was pretty much the nadir of witchhouse)

After that it was King Night, then I think Traxx and they ended with Killer. Momentum really died when the rapper dude sat down and had some chick on his lap while the other two did their thing. Sound wasn't great either. Was glad to have seen it but really wanted to hear more rap, it was by far the most fun thing about the performance.

Ryan, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

"""""""rap""""""

call me mr. jetson, i can make your orbit city (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Was glad to have seen it but really wanted to hear more rap, it was by far the most fun thing about the performance.

o_O

Completely, 100% the opposite of my feelings about the album proper. They just need to ditch the "rapper" completely. Would totally kill for Le Tigre meets Xasthur though!

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

imo btw chillwave & rapegaze are noble but failed attempts by this generation to come up with a term as stupid as "post-rock" but better luck next time you guys, we are dumber by far and "post-rock" is the proof

"shitgaze" however I gotta hand it to you, that one had us running scared for a minute

― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 11:26 (11 hours ago)

I dunno man, "BLOG HOUSE" has everything beat for me.

Pashmina, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

lol yeah point taken there

guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

i get the impression "rape gaze" is meant to be a twist on "male gaze" rather than a ref to shoegaze

― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:33 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i get the impression "bedrock" is meant to be an display of Drake's sexual prowess rather than a reference to Fred Flintstone's hometown of Bedrock

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't know who you're even trying to zing there, or on what basis

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link

on the basis of a joke about shoegaze/shitgaze/etcgaze

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 21 October 2010 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link

just heard "king night" on eurosport as incidental music for a skiing trailer. it's found its natural home! no zing it genuinely sounded pretty good in that context.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 21 October 2010 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Should probably change their name to Slalem

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 21 October 2010 11:31 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't know who you're even trying to zing there, or on what basis

double entendre, yo.

Tim F, Thursday, 21 October 2010 11:32 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks for that patronising explanation! "whiney's just being a dick again" would have sufficed.

i don't know whether this interview with the one band that's actually used the phrase has been linked, but it prob should be - http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2010/10/the_horrifyingl.php

in the context of just one all-female band using it, i think the phrase isn't something to be outraged over, and w/r/t the kind of music they make actually pretty interesting, though i think their "it was just a joke" line in that i/v is a bit of a cop-out (though i don't get the impression they were given much time to go into detail); it's pretty much like calling something "murder rap" or "horrorcore" or "death metal".

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 21 October 2010 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link

^^ Agree w/r/t all female band BUT surely all of this stuff is far too style mag to get away with flirting with offensiveness in a manner actually equiv to death metal et al. The fact they're already distancing themselves is evidence of this. It just seems so smug-indie which is the really offensive part surely.

Tim F, Thursday, 21 October 2010 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks for that patronising explanation!

also have i done something to offend you recently or what.

Tim F, Thursday, 21 October 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Tim smug-indie=offensive begs "what's wrong with being sexy?"

cee-oh-tee-tee, Thursday, 21 October 2010 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link

rape gaze is sexy?

Tim F, Thursday, 21 October 2010 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link

ha that was going to be my question

O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Thursday, 21 October 2010 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link

If I was a rape victim I know I'd think it was awesome if someone equated rape gaze and male gaze. You know it's never occurred to me that Andrea Dworkin might be right before.

Holly, Thursday, 21 October 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

this genre is called shit.

thebingo2010 (chrisv2010), Thursday, 21 October 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Weingarten is dead right about Demdike Stare. That album is phenomenal.

Plus, given that they seem to be inspired by the Pendle Witch coven, I'd imagine cries of cultural appropriation would be less vigorous and pertinent.

Andrea Dworkin was some kind of genius. A true radical. I would happily see Danny Baker go to the gallows for shouting shut up and shave at her. RIP.

Duran (Doran), Thursday, 21 October 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

according to twitter, creep - the "rape gaze" women - are currently working with nina sky???????

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I just don't understand how that genre tag even caught on to the point where we have to hold a discussion about it. Should have just been left to wither on whatever blog it originated on.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

from.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah really. who cares what genre it is when its horrendous noise.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Everything this band is doing is sexier than Lady Gaga.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 22 October 2010 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link

we definitely need to hear from music critics and message board nerds about what music is 'sexy'

truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Friday, 22 October 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Wait, "rape gaze"? wtf?

17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Friday, 22 October 2010 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link

^ this

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Friday, 22 October 2010 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Some crits are bigger than other, J0rdan.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 22 October 2010 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Weingarten is dead right about Demdike Stare. That album is phenomenal.

^ and this

too bad he's so wrong about mark mcguire, but

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Friday, 22 October 2010 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link

tbf, i'm not going to say i really gave McGuire more than 20 seconds of my time

'wich house (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 22 October 2010 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link

This thread is making me uncertain about my ability to read and understand the English language.

17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Friday, 22 October 2010 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Everything this band is doing is sexier than Lady Gaga.

― cee-oh-tee-tee, Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:04 PM (1 hour ago)

this is my favorite post in this entire thread

markers, Friday, 22 October 2010 02:04 (thirteen years ago) link

want salem to cover shiny happy people.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 22 October 2010 02:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Rap guy would prolley make a great Fred Schneider.

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 22 October 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link


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