Salem - What kind of music genre is this ?

u need 2 go by the name Saul Goode bro

best idea u've had all thread

that's a shame about white ring, doran, they're one of the few acts affiliated with all this that i find compelling. though i must say "bet this would be good live" isn't a thought that leaps to mind about this aesthetic at all, dunno why people would expect that.

in a bid to drag this thread upwards again (lol like it ever was) - v smart stuff from richfourfour as ever: http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2010/10/on-rape-movies-and-gazes.html

particularly pertinent comparison to portishead imo.

I thought the Portishead comparison was kind of stupid, actually. Like, how is a white dude affecting a black accent while mumbling over spacy beats even remotely comparable to that first Portishead album, which was a wispy jazz singer crooning over hip-hop beats?

I am not at all cool with white people playing gatekeeper with music that originated with black people; your skin color doesn't matter if you are good at what you're doing and that entire aside basically threw the end result out of the window for some gross "but it's WHITE people doing BLACK music!" concern-trolling that doesn't even make sense when listening to that first Portishead album.

HI DERE otm, why would there be controversy if portishead's first album was coming out now?

I thought the Portishead comparison was kind of stupid, actually. Like, how is a white dude affecting a black accent while mumbling over spacy beats even remotely comparable to that first Portishead album, which was a wispy jazz singer crooning over hip-hop beats?

I am not at all cool with white people playing gatekeeper with music that originated with black people; your skin color doesn't matter if you are good at what you're doing and that entire aside basically threw the end result out of the window for some gross "but it's WHITE people doing BLACK music!" concern-trolling that doesn't even make sense when listening to that first Portishead album.

thread was worth it if it got us to this post. (this is actually underrated aero btw post some weirdness w/login)

ha by "kind of" I really meant "incredibly"

I need to stop hedging

Vibing
Vibing 2 some rapegaze [link]
Really listening to this exciting new genre
thinking abt what it makes me feel

Do I feel 'dark'?
Am I ready to leave behind the vibes of chillwave?
Should I 'rage against the mainstream indie machine'
and only vibe out 2 rape gaze mp3s?

Thinking abt my sexual desires
Wondering if there is something 'deviant' inside of me
that makes me vibe hard to rapegaze music
like I can watch online pornography on mute
and listen to the dark sounds of salem

I feel like I will never go thru a hardcore drug addiction phase
Will never live in a shithole crack den meth lab apartment
Do drugs that involve needles
have sex in a graveyard
communicate with spirits
Have my bros crucify me just 4 shits
Sell my body for drugs
Contract some sort of infection/STD/terminal illness

Just dark ass shit

Feel like I'm always gonna be kinda mnstrm
and I won't ever be that dark
So maybe listening to rapegaze on my iPhone/Macbook is the only way 4 me
to sorta embed myself in that lifestyle

Do u <3 rapegaze?
Is there a high demand in the blogosphere 4 rapegaze mp3s?
Do u want more rapegaze coverage in the blogosphere?
Is Salem the world's worst buzzband?

carles can really kill it sometimes

lol i just grabbed that last bit

Just dark ass shit

http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/2010/10/vibing-2-some-rape-gaze.html

'vibing to some rape gaze' is just

"King Night" sounds o holy night redone by some kid who spends his free evenings making overclocked remixes

Next phase, chillwave, rape gaze, anyways
It's still rock and roll to me

A+

imo btw chillwave & rapegaze are noble but failed attempts by this generation to come up with a term as stupid as "post-rock" but better luck next time you guys, we are dumber by far and "post-rock" is the proof

"shitgaze" however I gotta hand it to you, that one had us running scared for a minute

shit robot was what first scared me. like, fuck, this generation doesn't even respect the robots? made me sad.

aw cmon aerosmith, 'rapegaze' is certainly a scourge on this earth, and a sign from the heavens that someday this will all be washed away...

(plz refrain from all Rape-ture joeks plz)

any genre that gets its name by leapfrogging off a name as already terrible as "shoegaze" is not gonna bring the quality

my bloody valentine were pretty rapey anyway

i get the impression "rape gaze" is meant to be a twist on "male gaze" rather than a ref to shoegaze

i don't know why people are acting like anyone's said it's a genre name when it's been used by ONE group though (and as a descriptor, not a genre)

really want to add more to this discussion but kinda busy trying to figure out what my newly invented genre "rental house" is going to sound like

lots of Moog

'post-ghost'

where can you rent a moog these days

i record u.k. council house under the name dj corbusier. its a mix of oi! and techstep.

Scott, that is the best dj name ever!

"when it comes to uk council house, pass the corbusier"
-nme

"open goal, really"
-Q

Innocuous threads that make you irrationally happy (a list thread)

vibing 2 some zanelowecore

I saw Salem play last night. It wasn't quite Fader Fort levels of badness, but it wasn't far off. I haven't heard the album, but the beats at this show just sounded like lame tinny presets ripped straight out of a cheap drum machine. The rapper guy did his stuff early and then went off to sit and talk to a group of their friends, who were all gathered at the side of the stage. It all felt very half-assed. Rapper guy seemed to be laughing most of the time when he was doing his thing, and I started to wonder if this is even a serious band. I mean, if you've got a band member on stage visibly talking to other people through half the set then I'm guessing you don't take your music very seriously.

ha -- so much for blaming the fader fort sound guy, eh?

if I went to a Salem show and it wasn't either totally horrible or really, really great I'd be disappointed

I was there last night too.

Opened with some new track that was the dude (not the rapper) doing some slowed down BM riffing while the girl played synths over; basically Le Tigre meets Xasthur.

After that they had the rapper dude come out for two tracks. They played one new track that was pretty much straight party rap and then Sick (when he was singing the chorus and going SIXSIXSIX throwing his hands up it was pretty much the nadir of witchhouse)

After that it was King Night, then I think Traxx and they ended with Killer. Momentum really died when the rapper dude sat down and had some chick on his lap while the other two did their thing. Sound wasn't great either. Was glad to have seen it but really wanted to hear more rap, it was by far the most fun thing about the performance.

"""""""rap""""""

Was glad to have seen it but really wanted to hear more rap, it was by far the most fun thing about the performance.

o_O

Completely, 100% the opposite of my feelings about the album proper. They just need to ditch the "rapper" completely. Would totally kill for Le Tigre meets Xasthur though!

http://static.boomkat.com/images/254067/333.jpg

http://www.myspace.com/pookawig

imo btw chillwave & rapegaze are noble but failed attempts by this generation to come up with a term as stupid as "post-rock" but better luck next time you guys, we are dumber by far and "post-rock" is the proof

"shitgaze" however I gotta hand it to you, that one had us running scared for a minute

― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 11:26 (11 hours ago)

I dunno man, "BLOG HOUSE" has everything beat for me.

lol yeah point taken there

i get the impression "rape gaze" is meant to be a twist on "male gaze" rather than a ref to shoegaze

― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:33 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i get the impression "bedrock" is meant to be an display of Drake's sexual prowess rather than a reference to Fred Flintstone's hometown of Bedrock

i don't know who you're even trying to zing there, or on what basis

on the basis of a joke about shoegaze/shitgaze/etcgaze

just heard "king night" on eurosport as incidental music for a skiing trailer. it's found its natural home! no zing it genuinely sounded pretty good in that context.

Should probably change their name to Slalem

i don't know who you're even trying to zing there, or on what basis

double entendre, yo.

thanks for that patronising explanation! "whiney's just being a dick again" would have sufficed.

i don't know whether this interview with the one band that's actually used the phrase has been linked, but it prob should be - http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2010/10/the_horrifyingl.php

in the context of just one all-female band using it, i think the phrase isn't something to be outraged over, and w/r/t the kind of music they make actually pretty interesting, though i think their "it was just a joke" line in that i/v is a bit of a cop-out (though i don't get the impression they were given much time to go into detail); it's pretty much like calling something "murder rap" or "horrorcore" or "death metal".

^^ Agree w/r/t all female band BUT surely all of this stuff is far too style mag to get away with flirting with offensiveness in a manner actually equiv to death metal et al. The fact they're already distancing themselves is evidence of this. It just seems so smug-indie which is the really offensive part surely.