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What these writers really mean to say is "This music reminds me of IKEA because they play stuff like it at IKEA."

Hurting 2, Friday, 20 June 2008 16:53 (fifteen years ago) link

mostly they play stuff like it at urban outfitters but nobody wants to admit they shop there once they get their first job

also THE CONTAINER STORE people
fills more inches and is less done

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

do they play stuff like this at IKEA? the ones i've been to are playing kinda normal supermarket/mall sort of music. i think.

tylerw, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually I haven't been to IKEA in years so I don't know.

Hurting 2, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Pretty sure the first time I'd ever heard of IKEA was via the Pavement song "Date w/IKEA."

jaymc, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

jaymc always with the really random cultural blind spots!

some dude, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

What these writers really mean to say is "This music reminds me of IKEA because they play stuff like it at IKEA."

-- Hurting 2, Friday, June 20, 2008 12:53 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

they play soft rock/pop radio at ikea

and what, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

not the alt/indie peter bjorn & john style soft rock but like air supply and shit

and what, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link

It was 1997! They hadn't yet penetrated the Midwest.

jaymc, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm with jaymc, that too was my first exposure to IKEA.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, it looks like the Schaumburg store opened in fall 1998.

jaymc, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

ironically, the first time i heard of pavement was at an ikea.

Granny Dainger, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

You should've borrowed my Walkman on the National Honor Society field trip to Navy Pier.

jaymc, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

i hate on ikea cause its a horrible place to be inside

Sometime around 1999 I think I nearly had a relationship end entirely because of the stress of a day at IKEA. You can walk in at 10am and find yourself at 5pm, still there, wanting to murder everyone around you, you and your companion both convinced that the other is the most irritating soft-headed pain in the ass ever to have walked the earth. There should be some sort of Survivor-style reality show set in an IKEA.

(I think the only reason the girlfriend and I didn't wind up killing one another that day was that I managed to carry a 7-foot circular rug through crowds and down three flights, which gave me immunity.)

nabisco, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

i wasn't in NHS! just NJHS. (and i was lying. i'd heard of pavement in Spin)

Granny Dainger, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.telefonica.net/web2/marcshaiman/cds/scenes.jpg

some dude, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

xp For some reason I think I knew that. (The first part, I mean.)

jaymc, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link

The best part is that if you go in the morning and do all your slow strolling and looking around and considering options, by 2:30 or so you'll be tired and snippy and running around trying to gather things up and get the hell out of them -- except then there'll be an afternoon crowd of couples strolling happily around considering options, and you will probably want to punch them all in the face and tell them that love is an illusion and they'd better get the hell out of your way because this is the real world and you are putting your foot down, getting the original lamp, taking it home, and strangling yourself with the cord. It's like an instant aging process between the morning and afternoon crowds: "Remember back at 11 when we were like that, so happy and full of dreams? These poor bastards have no idea what will happen to them in two hours."

nabisco, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link

it's been very freeing to purge myself of all my ikea crap, though i've found it very difficult to find a new dining table on craigslist because it's all ikea bullshit.

omar little, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

say what you want about ikea but if you have a shitlaod of books like i do their cheep bookcases are a fuckin godsend

s1ocki, Friday, 20 June 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Not to mention that by late afternoon you're liable to start buying a bunch of random cheap crap from the housewares section that will uselessly clutter up your apartment.

Hurting 2, Friday, 20 June 2008 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

(xpost)

Hurting 2, Friday, 20 June 2008 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

actually wait, the only thing i haven't purged is the EXPEDIT, which was a bitch to put together but it was totally worth it and it looks pretty good, too. it fits records perfectly.

omar little, Friday, 20 June 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, I was thinking about getting some EXPEDIT for our new place when we move

Hurting 2, Friday, 20 June 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I found myself the other day missing my JERKER (OOP)

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 June 2008 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link

I prefer to get my houseware clutter from Crate & Barrel and World Market

milo z, Friday, 20 June 2008 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Obviously most of the people on this list are too young to have had to remodel their tenants' kitchen without going broke. Ikea is essentially irreplaceable for that.

dlp9001, Friday, 20 June 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't object to the cheap, normal furniture, I object to the drill-camp stores.

I also commend them on the obviousness/honesty of that whole ad campaign where they were like "hey, IKEA shoppers, you're older and got promotions and want nicer stuff, so we've started making it in order to keep you from shopping anyplace else."

nabisco, Friday, 20 June 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

say what you want about ikea but if you have a shitlaod of books like i do their cheep bookcases are a fuckin godsend

-- s1ocki, Friday, June 20, 2008 3:17 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

just a lonely guy thinking baout a shitlaod of books

and what, Friday, 20 June 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

BRAGGIN 2008

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 20 June 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

say what you want about ikea but if you have a shitlaod of books records/CDs like i do everyong on ILM does their cheep bookcases are a fuckin godsend

stephen, Friday, 20 June 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

if you have a shitload of CDs and DVDs you really need to grow up and get some of those pleatherized case logics

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 June 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

records obviously another story but seriously those "limited edition digipaks" are just silly

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 June 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

That all said I am a big MARKOR fan

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 June 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

i want a pleatherized case logic for my books so i can rip out the pages and be done with them

s1ocki, Friday, 20 June 2008 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link

also THE CONTAINER STORE people
fills more inches and is less done

-- El Tomboto, Friday, June 20, 2008 5:01 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

OTM

plus shit is even cheaper

all my records are in container store boxes now

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 20 June 2008 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

i want a pleatherized case logic for my books so i can rip out the pages and be done with them

http://www.aarongershfieldsydney.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/kindle.jpg

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 June 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Pretty sure the first time I'd ever heard of IKEA was via the Pavement song "Date w/IKEA."

Same here, and I thought it was about a girl!

marc h., Friday, 20 June 2008 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Quirky Swedish indie girlfriend

jaymc, Friday, 20 June 2008 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

someone's been reading ILM:

Back when Sweden took up less of the average indie fan's headphone space-- remember two years ago?-- it was annoyingly common for critics to compare Swedish pop to the Scandinavian country's most famous non-musical exports: IKEA, H&M, Saab. The Swedes aren't much on inspiration, these metaphors (tritely) suggested, but boy are they good at turning others' ideas into safe, efficient, everyday-luxury items.

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/51447-love-is-all-wishing-well-5-ep

n/a, Thursday, 3 July 2008 12:05 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/144530-various-artists-the-complete-motown-singles-vol-10-1970

it's instructive to realize that what we figuratively consider "the sixties" is roughly the period from 1965 to 1973, when the United States was embroiled in the Vietnam War and undergoing the paroxysmal changes that made it into a true democracy for the first time in its history.

I stopped reading after that.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 August 2008 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link

someone's been reading ILM

Haha, I like how he posted like two posts above that, too.

jaymc, Thursday, 14 August 2008 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Curious - what don't you agree with there, Shakey?

Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 14 August 2008 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

its a tossed off historical generalization without any actual thought behind it. I assume he's implying that black people (and women) not having the vote meant that America was not actually a democracy...? Except the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964 (granted, Voting Rights Act was 1965)...? And most of the real civil rights work was done pre-1965? And America isn't technicallya democracy anyway, its a republic? Was Greece not a democracy because they had slaves? What kind of democracy is the writer referring too anyway? Its just lazy writing.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 August 2008 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean, it's potentially a dubious claim, but I have a hard time getting upset about it when they have stuff this this in their archive:

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/16264-john-coltrane-live-at-the-village-vanguard-the-master-takes

polyphonic, Thursday, 14 August 2008 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Shakey I am tempted to say that's lazy nit-picking

nabisco, Thursday, 14 August 2008 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean, for one thing the word "true" seems to have been used specifically because of all your rhetorical questions there. (This is leaving aside that you're objecting to a "historical generalization" in a record review, which seems to me a fine place for historical references to be a tad generalized.)

nabisco, Thursday, 14 August 2008 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd say its out of place in a record review, period. Mostly it begs the question of what happened between '65 and '73 that turned America into a "true" democracy (hint: it wasn't passage of civil rights legislation, cuz that happened mostly pre-65)

(and it goes without saying that schreiber penned some terrible crap)

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 August 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link

It might raise questions. It's not an example of something that "begs the question," though. (See? Nit-picking is fun!)

marc h., Thursday, 14 August 2008 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha okay you got me

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 August 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link


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