How To Rock Like A Black Feminist Critic

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Who the heck knows? But I'd say we were doing pretty well about getting panelists to drop in for a min there. We can get the lady who talked about Nona Hendryx too I guess but Morley called her a Miss Ann!

Candicissima (candicissima), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link

*bemused* I'm admit I'm not familiar with the term! What does 'Miss Ann' mean?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:08 (nineteen years ago) link

i just found a princeton campus newspaper article about daphne brooks. wow, she sounds awesome. wish i'd had a prof like that in college.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

a "miss ann"'s like a "mr. charlie" right?

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link

The woman who did the Nona Hendryx piece was the only non-African American on the panel, and she did seem a bit lost as far as knowing what might have been more appropriate behavior for working the CD player.. (she basically told Daphne Brooks to play the tracks for her, since Daphne was closest to the CD player) then again, the "Miss Ann"-ness that Morley pointed out could have been unfortunate coincidence, and maybe she's normally like that with all her co-horts, no matter the race?

All of those issues aside, and that "over-academia in presentation" issue, I feel like I missed an otherwise great piece on Hendryx... as she is definitely overlooked, from what I heard at the tail end of the piece.

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Y'all all know about Kandia-edited RIP IT UP: THE BLACK EXPERIENCE IN ROCK 'N' ROLL? Get it if you haven't.

don, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link

She also LOVES Dylan who I did target, as well as Ole Liverlips. Yes: I said he was a late modern Zip Coon etc

i bet i'll regret this but um, what the heck does that mean?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 12 May 2005 00:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Zip Coon (Thanks to Google.) Apparently, a white guy imitating black music. More here

Candicissima (candicissima), Thursday, 12 May 2005 00:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Well there's more to it than that of course. Like a blackface minstrel.

Candicissima (candicissima), Thursday, 12 May 2005 00:44 (nineteen years ago) link

thanks, i figured it was something like that. seems an odd term to apply to dylan of all people, since he drew on country as much as the blues.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 12 May 2005 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow you know a lot about what it's like to be white!

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 12 May 2005 02:44 (nineteen years ago) link

'zip coon' was a stock minstrel character like 'jim crow' - sexual, sophisticated dandy. cf. mick jagger.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 12 May 2005 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Ole Liverlips. Yes: I said he was a late modern Zip Coon etc

Well, he is isn't he? Why was this even controversial? I think Jagger himself would even admit it to a certain extent!

J (Jay), Thursday, 12 May 2005 11:53 (nineteen years ago) link

There have been very gifted minstrels, white and black. Blackface runs deep in America. Bob Dylan's Love And Theft is a really good album, and Eric Lott's Love And Theft is an even better book (about minstelsey).

don, Friday, 13 May 2005 03:56 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...

A national dance craze in Ivory Coast has spawned a black market in treatments claiming to increase one's bottom size.

The dance in question has been inspired by DJ Mix and DJ Eloh's hit song Bobaraba, which means "big bottom" in the local Djoula language.

When it plays you can be guaranteed that the dance floor will be packed with people shaking their derrieres.

Even Ivorian footballers have adopted the moves and could be seen wiggling their bottoms in a curious on-pitch dance after each goal scored during the just-ended Africa Nations Cup.

However, doctors have warned of the possible dangers of some of the concoctions on sale.

While the dance has been embraced by both sexes, DJ Mix says it was inspired by women.

"We made it as a tribute to women, because African women are defined by the shape of their bottoms," he says.

"Move your bottom, jump, you see, it's alive."

Kady Meite, one of his dancers, says the song is a message for women.

"There are women today with large bottoms who are embarrassed, so it's to say don't be ashamed - be comfortable," she says.

The message seems to have been taken on board - so much so that some women are now going in search of a "bobaraba"

In the sprawling Adjame market just north of the city centre in Abidjan, women sell "bottom enhancers".

"You need to inject this liquid into your bottom once a day," says a market trader, showing a vial of coloured liquid labelled "Vitamin B12".

Each vial costs $2. The label claims it is made in China.

If you do not like the sound of injections, the same amount of money will also get you a small tub of cream.

There is no description of what the product contains or how to apply it; just the words "Big bottoms and big breasts", and two illustrating pictures.

Local gynaecologist Dr Marcel Sissoko is sceptical about the concoctions.

"This medicine could be dangerous for your health because we don't know the ingredients. It's being used without a medical prescription," he warns.

"The health ministry hasn't authorised this and doctors don't know what's in there, so there are risks."

At the Micronutrient Information Centre at Oregon State University in the United States, Dr Victoria Drake says she knows of no scientific evidence that vitamin B12 can be used to treat anything except vitamin B12 deficiency.

DJ Mix admits there is now a growing fashion for young women to show off their bottoms.

"If a woman goes dancing and wants to take two or three treatments, no problem," he says.

"But we don't say to girls that they must take treatment to enhance your bottom, no."

One man on the streets of Abidjan agreed: "Us boys, we appreciate these things because when women use the treatment it attracts us, but for women it's not good."

Most women I spoke to preferred to avoid the treatments.

"Me? I prefer to be natural so you can know your true value. It's best not to use these medicines. It's not good - it's actually very dangerous," one said.

Another woman was happy with what came naturally.

"I do the bobaraba because I already have a big bum. When I dance, everyone looks at me."

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 February 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link

There's always some "zany" story in the "most read articles" section of the bbc news site that gets emailed round my building. This was today's.

Bodrick III, Monday, 18 February 2008 22:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Bobaraba, which means "big bottom" in the local Djoula language.

Boboaraba means big bottom any any language!

bendy, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 04:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Does Donna's article on the Fall still exist anywhere?

The Reverend, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 05:00 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

To finally answer the Rev, yes it does, and here it is:


Cerebral Caustic: a love story

By Donna E. Brown

Maybe I had something to prove, but I doubted it. Maybe I was trying to get back at my parents for dragging me away from NYC at age 4 and dumping the family unit in darkest South Carolina, where it’s always twenty years in the past. Whatever the reason, whatever the motivation, I fell in love with the wrong man. His name was Mark.

The year was 1985. College radio, irony and ethnicity weren’t yet hip, and the fact that my teachers were still referring to me as 'colored' wasn’t helping much either. I was a little black girl in a place and time when being naturally dark was looked down upon, an agnostic bookworm in a culture that mandated church attendance. Nobody liked me, but that was okay, because I didn’t like them either. I had my books and I had my music (but no boyfriends, thanks to insanely strict parents and a lack of dating material.)

Well, I thought I had music. 1985 was a lean period, a decidedly mean period. The University of South Carolina’s radio station wasn’t coming in too well, and if I heard the Thompson Twins in conjunction with "Donna likes this weird music" one more time, I would scream. There had to be someone out there who felt like I did, who would make Camden, S.C. bearable, who knew that nothing should be taken at face value and that what you thought was what mattered, not what everyone thought you ought to think. That was as novel (and convoluted) then as it is now.

One summer night I was watching MTV after my parents had gone to bed. It was a long dark night of the soul; I stayed awake out of sheer desperation, praying for something better. I’d rejected Simple Minds and Tenpole Tudor already. China Crisis and Scritti Politti were cute and lefty, but I wanted a man who’d "say what you mean and say it mean." And boom, there he was.

Mark E. Smith - the name alone made my heart wobble in a way that told me for sure that I was onto something. Not some pop tart name - it didn’t belong to a man who wore Yamamoto suits and bronzer. This was a man who lived. In the now, on the same earth as I did, thinking the same things I did, and saying them. Sort of. Everything I knew in my heart to be true despite it all, that I knew existed in the world beyond me, everything real, condensed into one word. Not even a word - a syllable. Specifically, a syllable-ah. A big ol’ "yeah RIGHT" to all that was bogus in music. That "ah" kept me going. Even if I had no idea what a Fall song was about, the verbal footnote was there. And if the song was relatively clear, the "-ah" became a rallying cry. "All those whose mind entitles themselves, and whose main entitle is themselves, shall feel the wrath of my bombast-ah!"

It mattered not that Mark E. was possibly the ugliest man who walked the planet. The sunken eyes in the ratlike face were raw and honest, and his words were his own. They didn’t have to rhyme. Hell, he couldn’t even sing, at least in a conventional sense. My parents were already horrified that I daydreamed about Bobby Gillespie instead of Bobby Brown (although their parallel drug-use paths eventually led them in the same direction.) I couldn’t let them know about this. Not just a scary-looking white man from England, this was a man whose deal with Motown was perma-scuppered when the Gordy minions heard the line in "The Classical": "where are the obligatory niggers?" Never mind "Take that, fuck-face-ah!" I was already going to hell. And all for a white boy who couldn’t sing!

But the weird thing was that MES made me feel better about being black. Before, I’d felt so uncomfortable in my small-town skin that I fell into self-loathing. I was bad at being a girl, and even worse at being black if it meant I had to go to church every day and listen to the Jets in order to feel at one with my people. But seeing a wiry ex-dockworker from Manchester spin tales that he didn’t expect anyone to understand, much less sing along with, made me breathe a little more easily. He did what he thought was right, took the rap, and remained steadfastly himself. And I thought, if he can do that, why can’t I?

And that, kids, is the (typically convoluted) story of how a white man helped me become a black woman.

The end-ah.

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 17 March 2008 07:00 (sixteen years ago) link

wtf? Deal with Motown?

Bodrick III, Monday, 17 March 2008 10:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Really thought that was gonna be a Hannah Pool piece.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 17 March 2008 12:00 (sixteen years ago) link

See, this joke was funny because Pool is also female and black.

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 17 March 2008 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, I got that. But thanks!

Morley Timmons, Monday, 17 March 2008 23:23 (sixteen years ago) link

oh dom you minx

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 17 March 2008 23:27 (sixteen years ago) link

that is some nice writing by donna

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 17 March 2008 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link

thank you!

Morley Timmons, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 00:11 (sixteen years ago) link

what M@tt said! worth the month-long cliffhanger, even

The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link


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