The ILX Readers Poll 2002 - RECORDS OF THE YEAR

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"22. BEACHWOOD SPARKS - Make The Cowboy Robots Cry (32)"

heh heh! Me and one other person, but WHICH other person?

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 5 January 2003 15:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Did you get my ballot? I gave Derek Bailey 20 pts and Fred Frith 15 but neither appear on the list above. Oh wait, I now see that someone else had to vote for them. I knew I should have just given Andrew WK 30 points - it's the only thing from my list that even got mentioned.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 5 January 2003 15:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

I own and enjoy 10 of these, so I like this list. What, no "Sea Change"?

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 5 January 2003 15:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

That reminds me -

These are the records which people heroically sacrificed large numbers (20+) of points for but which didn't get a second vote:

30 points:
Lewis Taylor - Stoned part one
Okkervil River -Don't Fall in Love with Everyone You See

25 points:
hrvatski - swarm and dither
RJD2 - Deadringer: 25
walkmen- everyone who pretended to like me is gone - 25 pts

22 points:
Puerto Muerto - Your Bloated Corpse Has Drifted Ashore - Puerto Muerto

20 points:
8 Mile OST
Aarktica - Or You Could Just Go Through Your Whole Life And Be Happy Anyway
Blak Twang - Kik Off
Buddy Holly: What You Been A-Missin'
Derek Bailey - Ballads
DJ SPEC - The Vexed Episode
DJ SPEC - Yellowmix
V/A - Electrolife: Pop For The Electro Age
Keith Fullerton Whitman – Playthroughs
Mastodon - Remission
Solomon Burke - Don't give up on me
Stockholm Monsters - Alma Mater
Talib Kweli 'Quality'
V/A - The Alchemist of Pop (Joe Meek)
U2 - Best Of 1990-2002
Xiu Xiu "The Chapel of the Chimes" EP
Youssou N'Dour - Nothing's in Vain

― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 5 January 2003 15:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mr. S, I gave Delgados 15 points...unless Tom didn't count me again. ;)

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 5 January 2003 15:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yay - 2 of mine got no other votes! (Monstahs and J. Meek)

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Sunday, 5 January 2003 15:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

well done farben!

― stirmonster, Sunday, 5 January 2003 15:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Crucial Farben question - is Starbox the same thing as Textstar but in a different country? Cos if so Farben came 4th!

― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 5 January 2003 15:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

i voted incorrectly, do over. surely twenty other people voted for Saturday Looks Good To Me and you are just keeping him down.

― keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 5 January 2003 15:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

the DJ SPEC votes were shameless self-promotion by me - well, they would be, but i genuinely havent enjoyed listening to anything else as much as them, not even the superior 2 Many DJs mix so its allowed

― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 5 January 2003 15:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

(no payola, phleeeze)

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 5 January 2003 15:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Delgados was a five pointer for me, also. If I gave it 5, Swygart gave it 30, and sean gave it 15, that leaves 4 other points. Which is impossible, as the minimum was 5. Oh well, I'll stop nit-picking, now...

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 5 January 2003 15:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

Was there a minimum limit? Ah, soddit, it beat the Lips, so I'm happy.

What does surprise me is that I think I may have contributed one-third of the points that Neko got, and a good three-quarters of the points that Nina Nastasia got too.

I have eight of the total albums listed (nine if you include Kik Off), of which I voted for four.

But still. Eleventh. Coom on :)

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 5 January 2003 16:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

There was a 5 point minimum but I couldn't be arsed to enforce it, so Pete's 3 points for the Delgados stood. Kilian gave it 6 not 5 so that solves that one!

― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 5 January 2003 16:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Here is my top ten for the Pazz and Jop poll: Opeth-Deliverance/Wipers-Wipers Box Set/Northern State-Hip Hop You Haven't Heard/DJ Erik B-Club CD Vol.11/Dalek-from filthy tongue of gods and griots/Various Artists-Knuckletracks XLIII/Doves-The Last Broadcast/NonPhixion-The Future Is Now/Electric Wizard-Let Us Prey/Missy Elliot-Under Construction Singles: Dixie Chicks-Long Time Gone/Clipse-Grindin'/Eminem-Lose Yourself/Missy Elliot-Work It/Afu-Ra-Hip Hop/Timbaland & Magoo-Indian Carpet/Midnight Sun-Metal Gods/Interpol-NYC/Technics-Downside Up/Sheryl Crow-Soak Up The Sun

― Scott Seward, Sunday, 5 January 2003 16:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Silly me! Sorry for nit-picking, Tom! Any clues as to who my fellow Beachwood Sparks voter is, or must the ballot remain secret?

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 5 January 2003 16:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

I cant remember - I only checked the Delgados thing cos I was paranoid I HAD actually forgotten Sean again!

― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 5 January 2003 16:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Crucial Farben question - is Starbox the same thing as Textstar but in a different country?

No, Starbox is four previously released 12-inch records packaged together; Textstar picks and chooses from among those releases, and has about six (?) fewer tracks. All of the tracks on Textstar are on Starbox, I think, but they aren't the same thing.

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Sunday, 5 January 2003 17:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Don't feel bad Tom, Sean is pretty forgettable.

(see how I hate you now Sean? ;))

But darn it, I actually meant to vote in this one, but then I got that horrible flu. The Delgados would have placed - you can blame me!

― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 5 January 2003 17:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sundar: Ballads would have appeared if I voted. Sorry. I guess Julio didn't cast his ballot either.

― James Annett (jlannett), Sunday, 5 January 2003 19:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

The fuckin' Streets.

Shit.

― David Allen, Sunday, 5 January 2003 20:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

More like:

The fuckin' Streets!

Shit!

(jumps up and down going 'woo')

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 5 January 2003 20:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

c'mon that means farben is 4th then! if you had instead put it as "starbox is the special edition textstar with bonus tracks" there'd be no question

― zemko (bob), Sunday, 5 January 2003 21:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

it's way better than board of canada and boomselection neway!

― zemko (bob), Sunday, 5 January 2003 21:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

I knew there was something I forgot to vote on...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 January 2003 22:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

thanks for posting my heroic 20 pointer for Xiu Xiu "The Chapel of the Chimes" EP ... honestly, i think that's the best thing i've heard all year.
m.

― msp, Sunday, 5 January 2003 22:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Likewise, thanks for posting my heroic 20-pointer for Aarktica, although my enthusiasm's waning a bit for it now (I like certain tracks but not sure about the album straight through), plus I've finally heard Farben, Textstar, which is fantastic. All of this too late to revise my ballot...

(msp: How would you compare the Xiu Xiu EP to the full-length from earlier in the year? I loved the full-length at first but fatigue set in after a few listens.)

― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Sunday, 5 January 2003 23:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

I really wanna see the thread where this was voted. Who likes The Streets?

― David Allen, Monday, 6 January 2003 00:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

ilm

― , Monday, 6 January 2003 00:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

I am somewhat flummoxed that I had the only vote for the 8 mile soundtrack.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 6 January 2003 02:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

I might've given it one if I had voted, sterl. and if I had decided yet if it would be in my top 10 or not.

I bet simon would've too.

― Josh (Josh), Monday, 6 January 2003 03:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah it was just outside my 10 too Sterling. I did sort of assume other people would vote for it, oh well.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 6 January 2003 10:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Who was the other voter for DJ Yoda then, because they're going into my "favourite ILXers" list straight away.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 6 January 2003 10:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

''Sundar: Ballads would have appeared if I voted. Sorry. I guess Julio didn't cast his ballot either.''

I was on holiday so I couldn't!

james- we'll try and sabotage the list next year OK.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 6 January 2003 11:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dom Passantino, meet Alan Trewartha.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 6 January 2003 11:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

who else voted for recloose?

― michael wells (michael w.), Monday, 6 January 2003 11:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

"22. BEACHWOOD SPARKS - Make The Cowboy Robots Cry (32)"
heh heh! Me and one other person, but WHICH other person?

I'm the other voter for that one. It's actually one of the few records I voted for that anyone else liked as well.

(I'm the sap that wasted most of my votes on Lewis Taylor and Solomon Burke. Also, nobody else went for Cinematic Orchestra, The Boggs or the Rough Trade electronic compilation.)

― James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 6 January 2003 11:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

I voted for 10 mix CDs! Only two of which charted.

― Jeff W, Monday, 6 January 2003 11:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Am I the only person who is surprised, nay, AMAZED at the high placing of Sleater Kinney?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 6 January 2003 13:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

No Matt.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 6 January 2003 13:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

You are not alone.

― Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Monday, 6 January 2003 13:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Not because I don't like S-K or anything - I've hardly heard them. But my impression was that the reaction on ILM to this record was pretty lukewarm even from fans.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 6 January 2003 13:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

Same with Low (apart from myself). A lot of people thought it was a disappointment.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 6 January 2003 13:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hello Dom

― Alan (Alan), Monday, 6 January 2003 13:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thank you, James Ball.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 6 January 2003 13:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Same with Low (apart from myself). A lot of people thought it was a disappointment.
No way. Best thing they've done since Curtain.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 6 January 2003 14:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

I liked it a lot too, Sean (the "apart from myself" bit meant that I thought was one of few who liked it on ILM). I set up a couple of threads about Low, and the general consensus SEEMED to be that people found trust disappointing. Its my 2nd fave Low rec, after Secret Name, and I voted it 2nd best rec of the year, with 12 points. I'm pleasantly surprised to see it so high.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 6 January 2003 15:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

My surprise is that Sleater-Kinney placed so high when *I* didn't vote. (You know, with me being ILX's resident "I never met a shouty Olympian I didn't love" idiot and all.)

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 6 January 2003 19:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

ILM in indie as fuck shockah

― _gi**y_, Monday, 6 January 2003 20:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

(msp: How would you compare the Xiu Xiu EP to the full-length from earlier in the year? I loved the full-length at first but fatigue set in after a few listens.)

it's way better than the full length. perhaps it's length is a factor, but i think the ep shows them much more raw, and the production is much more bombastic, so the emotion is more pronounced.

― msp, Monday, 6 January 2003 22:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

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ILE Top Ten: (including only recs which got more than 1 ile vote)

1. The Streets - OPM
2. Sleater-Kinney: One Beat
3. 2 Many DJ’s: As Heard on Radio Soulwax Pt. 2
4. Boom Selection_Issue 01
5. Paulina Rubio – Border Girl
6. Missy Elliot - Under Construction
7. Golden Boy with Miss Kittin – Or
8. Mekons – Oooh!
9. Prefuse 73 - 92 vs 02
10. Sugababes – Angels With Dirty Faces

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 15:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Top 10 Records which nobody from ILE gave points to:

farben - textstar
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Low- trust
Books - Thought for Food
Interpol - Turn On The Bright Lights
Saint Etienne - Finisterre
Beachwood Sparks - Make the cowboy robots cry
Immortal - Sons of Northern Darkness
max tundra - mastered by the guy at the exchange
Black Dice, Beaches & Canyons (DFA)
The Bees - Sunshine Hit Me

Top Records (and indeed only charting records) which nobody from ILM voted for:

Paulina Rubio – Border Girl
Golden Boy with Miss Kittin – Or
Mekons – Oooh!
Prefuse 73 - 92 vs 02
Sugababes – Angels With Dirty Faces
Clipse: Lord Willin’

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 15:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

i thought the golden boy/miss kittin was from 01?

― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 15:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

proven by science that ile is cooler than ilm non-shocker!!

i forgot to vote :(

― geeta in DC, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 16:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

james- we'll try and sabotage the list next year OK.
Wicked!

― James Annett (jlannett), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 16:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tom: you should download the title track ("Border Girl") immediately and maybe you'd dig "Sexual Lover" a great deal too.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 17:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

proven by science that ile is cooler than ilm non-shocker!!
I don't see how that follows. ;)

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 17:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Also surprised that Prefuse placed in the top 50, as I used it simply to fill out my list so that I'd have ten entries so that I could give 30 to One Beat and 25 to RJD2 (YES IT WAS ME).

Who else voted for One Beat? I'm taking yall out to drink (all both of you).

― Leee (Leee), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 01:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Huh, I could've sworn I voted for RJD2...must've forgot.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 03:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

A) You mean that after all the Afropop threads I've read where I've admired how much more than me other know, I'm the only one who voted for the stuff?

B) Leee, the two of us were responsible for 79% of S-K's points.

― B.Rad (Brad), Thursday, 9 January 2003 12:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

eleven months pass...

are we doing this in '03?

― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 5 January 2004 05:43 (twenty years ago) link

I still haven't heard anything by Farben.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 5 January 2004 12:14 (twenty years ago) link

i'm doing the 'singles' poll - i think we need a few more days before it closes, so get your vote in if you haven't already (mail me your top 5 tunes from this year - singles released, album tracks, remixes, b-sides, bootlegs etc.)

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 5 January 2004 12:46 (twenty years ago) link

You can probably skip the Farben Tom -- I love it but my guess is it's not your thing.

― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 5 January 2004 14:15 (twenty years ago) link

six years pass...

Never heard of Farben.

hehe the streets won this. the good old days?

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 April 2010 01:13 (fourteen years ago) link

This would be a really interesting year to re-poll, if anyone's game.

Shit that comes to mind:

El-P - Fantastic Damage
Low - Trust
Peter Murphy - Dust
Oneida - Each One Teach One
mclusky - Do Dallas
Talib Kweli - Quality
Nas - God's Son
Amerie - All I Need
Chemical Bros - Come with Us
Wm Basinski - The River
Primal Scream - Evil Heat
Black Dice - Beaches and Canyons
Merzbow - Merzbeat
Flaming Lips - Yoshimi
Notwist - Neon Golden
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Clipse - Lord Willin'
Missy - Under Construction
Isis - Oceanic
Comets on Fire - Field Recordings from the Sun
Raveonettes - Whip It On
Wire - Read and Burn 01 / 02
Tom Waits - Alice
Tom Waits - Blood Money
Sonic Youth - Murray St
Spoon - Kill the Moonlight
Wolf Eyes - Dead Hills
Mr Lif - I Phantom
Interpol - Bright Lights
Secret Machines - September 000
Boards of Canada - Geogaddi
Sunn O))) - Flight of the Behemoth
Mtn Goats - All Hail West Texas
Mtn Goats - Tallahassee
Streets - Original Pirate Material
Boris - Heavy Rocks
Madlib - Blunted in the Bomb Shelter
Roots - Phrenology
Dalek - From Filthy Tongues (eat yr heart out LJ)
Six Organs - Dark Noontide

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 15 April 2010 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link

didn't even get to the end of that list before i knew who's post that was

― someone knows about persian cats (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 15 April 2010 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Not sure whether to be pleased or bummed tbh.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 15 April 2010 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

im guessing it was an insult

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 April 2010 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah but it's an insult from Whiney, it's almost an honor to have him recognize that, apparently, my tastes are different enough from his that it's worth pointing out. Glad to have my differences!

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 15 April 2010 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, I'd love to see him ru down my list of albums with his opinions. I'm guessing we have at least some crossover in our tastes (hip hop, metal and whatever else), he's just not keen to admit it publicly and would rather hurl off a one-liner at me.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 15 April 2010 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link

run down*

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 15 April 2010 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i've heard like 3 of the albums in ilxor's list

― J0rdan S., Thursday, 15 April 2010 02:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i was just sayin ilxor is the type of poster to list a bunch of albums without prompting

― someone knows about persian cats (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 15 April 2010 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, and tbf it was a "zing" not an insult. it's all love.

― someone knows about persian cats (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 15 April 2010 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link

and yes, I will admit our tastes are shockingly similar! save the few lolindie records peppering that list its a lot like my best of 02 for sure!

― someone knows about persian cats (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 15 April 2010 03:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't believe thats the same guy who was dissing the Patton/Melvins ATP

― someone knows about persian cats (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 15 April 2010 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link

ha yeah i was gonna say pot meet kettle, it looks like one of your lists

― k3vin k., Thursday, 15 April 2010 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link

that OP list is pure crape.

― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 15 April 2010 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Textstar was great! Farben is Jan Jelinek.

― Jeff, Thursday, 15 April 2010 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Lolindie = Wilco, Spoon, Flaming Lips, Notwist, Interpol... Raveonettes? What else?

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 15 April 2010 04:13 (fourteen years ago) link

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