young writers aspired to screenwriting or journalism.
Is this true?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 10 November 2007 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link
RIP. I suppose I should get round to reading some of his books now.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 10 November 2007 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link
The proof that he was the first modern celebrity author is I've never read a single book of his. Think I'll start w/ Armies of the Night.
Harlot' Ghost is still on shelf today in Brooklyn library, about 20 feet from his pic on the wall.
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 10 November 2007 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Armies of the Night is fantastic and all about his celebrity in a way. He is very endearing in it.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 10 November 2007 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link
it is also prescient about our current political moment which is a little painful to read.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 10 November 2007 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Executioner's Song really is fantastic - especially love the lengthy autopsy sequence near the end of the book that reminded me of the lengthy autopsy sequence near the end of Albert Goldman's Elvis bio - tho I suspect that may have a lot to do w/ all the research/access that came from Mailer's collaborator/business partner Lawrence Schiller (Schiller's Perfect Murder, Perfect Town (abt JonBenet Ramsey) and his book on the OJ Simpson trial are two of my v. favourite true crime bks). Mailer, always in competition, obv. had one eye/mind on Capote's In Cold Blood, but I think Executioner's Song is the better bk - less sentimental/gratuitously poetic, less enamoured of crims (ironic considering the Abbot biz), and keenly sympathetic (surprisingly) to the women in Gilmore's life.
― Ward Fowler, Saturday, 10 November 2007 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link
RIP
http://gilmoregirls.serialy.info/images/herci/ine_slavne_tvare/norman_mailer.jpg
― Gukbe, Saturday, 10 November 2007 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Aw damn, RIP.
― Rock Hardy, Saturday, 10 November 2007 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link
I am 53. You would thinnk he would appeal to someone who was nearer to his own age and epoch. I have never read Mailer, so he might be a fabulous, fantastic, moving writer of great excellence and I would not know it.
His death is very little different to me than the death of any other well-known person who has not touched my life. I am sorry for those who loved him. That does not include me. RIP, Norman.
― Aimless, Sunday, 11 November 2007 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link
You lived it, Norm.
― collardio gelatinous, Sunday, 11 November 2007 04:58 (sixteen years ago) link
I read one of his Esquire pieces from the '60s last night. Say what you want about his ego, at least the guy was not boring. His writing snaps and crackles.
― o. nate, Monday, 12 November 2007 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link
If only there were more people writing about politics with a novelist's eye like Mailer's these days:
"Superman Comes to the Supermarket"
http://web.archive.org/web/20030910061551/www.esquire.com/features/articles/2003/031001_mfe_mailer_1.html
― o. nate, Monday, 12 November 2007 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link
I think of Mailer as almost being, like, America's version of Cyril Connolly: both men never really wrote the Next Great Novel they were anointed to write as young men, and both men introduced a new sort of intellectual archetype who would epitomize the opinions of the age who came after him.
― Cunga, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:02 (sixteen years ago) link
One last honor.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link
The winning passage, which leaves little to the imagination, begins: "So Klara turned head to foot and put her most unmentionable part down on his hard-breathing nose and mouth and took his old battering ram into her lips."
old battering ram = National Book Award?
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Here's the infamous brawl with Rip Torn, who looks like he's eaten a lot of Ho-Hos since then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XU4jpnJWFY
― dally, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link
has anyone read harlot's ghost?
2 things i wanna know
is it great?anddo u need to know a lot about the CIA to get it?
― flopson, Thursday, 8 October 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link
yes, sort of, no
― the late great, Friday, 9 October 2015 01:04 (eight years ago) link
Yes. His best novel. When I read it, I finally found the novel equiv of JFK.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 October 2015 01:07 (eight years ago) link
yeah, his magnum opus.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Friday, 9 October 2015 01:50 (eight years ago) link
it is certainly good, i'm just not sure it justifies its length
― the late great, Friday, 9 October 2015 03:31 (eight years ago) link
iirc i read it between ellroy's "cold six thousand" and "gravity's rainbow" ... it was a paranoid summer
― the late great, Friday, 9 October 2015 06:00 (eight years ago) link
Been dipping into his Apollo book, Of a Fire on the Moon, as mentioned on this thread: DSKY-DSKY Him Sad: Official ILB Thread For The Heroic Age of Manned Spaceflight. It's a really great subject for him. Fantastic evocation of the era and speculation of the significance of certain events and behaviors and what might come next. Really nice set pieces, like the comparison of the personalities and speaking styles of the three Apollo 11 astronauts.
― Take 36, Where Are You? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2015 02:40 (eight years ago) link
Note: don't think any of us on the other thread had actually gotten around to reading it yet so maybe I should have posted there first.
― Take 36, Where Are You? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 October 2015 02:41 (eight years ago) link