Ryan took Rollie's list and folded into the aggregate results the way one shuffles a deck of cards. All pretense to continuity out the window, must pretend "we get rap".
looooooooool @ this
― I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
pretty sure we're both married dudes not seeking careers in rockcrit who still post on ILX and laugh about what Ryan Schrieber wrote in 1998, ott. I just don't also post on Hipinion.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Re: folding hip-hop albums into the 2003 list... does Schreiber listen to any hip-hop nowadays?? I mean, obviously dude is enthused about stuff like Deerhunter, Bear in Heaven, Bon Iver, Real Estate, Surfer Blood, Grizzly Bear, etc. but has he broadened out from his little indie-rock safety net in recent years? (Not that I'm condemning him either way, tastes are tastes; just curious.)
― I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
listening to hip hop is so dangerous
― 50.bison (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link
R0ll13 P3mb3rt0n's Pfork list is fantastic, at least 50-55 albums there that I really really love. Any opinions on the following stuff, which I've never heard? (Guessing this is 99% hip-hop, I'm just wondering what's worth prioritizing and hearing.)
2. Aceyalone - A Book Of Human Language3. Black Sheep - A Wolf In Sheep’s Clothing10. Casual - Fear Itself25. Organized Konfusion - Stress: The Extinction Agenda27. Ras Kass - Soul On Ice34. Gravediggaz - 6 Feet Deep43. Freestyle Fellowship - To Whom It May Concern45. Method Man - Tical46. Prince Paul - A Prince Among Thieves47. UNKLE - Psyence Fiction48. Brand Nubian - One For All49. Handsome Boy Modelling School - So…How’s Your Girl?53. Souls of Mischief - 93 ‘Til Infinity59. Onyx - All We Got Iz Us60. Freestyle Fellowship - Innercity Griots63. Del Tha Funkee Homosapien - No Need For Alarm64. Mobb Deep - The Infamous68. Buck 65 - Vertex73. Digable Planets - Blowout Comb74. KRS-One - Return of the Boom Bap83. Mobb Deep - Hell On Earth85. Rawkus Presents Soundbombing II88. Redman - Dare Iz A Darkside91. OC - Word Life98. Main Source - Breaking Atoms
― I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
at least 80 percent of those are hip-hop canon classics (or second-tier hip-hop canon classics) to a greater or lesser extent.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link
I like pretty much all the albums on that list I've heard (Gravediggaz, Prince Paul, Brand Nubian, Mobb Deep, Digable Planets) though Handsome Boy is pretty hit-or-miss in hindsight. Been meaning to check out the Souls Of Mischief full-length cuz the title track is so damn good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skjgq4ILB_s
― da croupier, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
ironically enough I first heard the loop from 93 in a blend and what made of that and TI's "I'm Serious"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link
these would be my four choices-to-check-out-first, simply based on how much i like them, though really everything except the two prince paul records and unkle are pretty solid start to finish:
25. Organized Konfusion - Stress: The Extinction Agenda48. Brand Nubian - One For All64. Mobb Deep - The Infamous98. Main Source - Breaking Atoms
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Rollie was 17 years old when he made that list.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link
2. Aceyalone - A Book Of Human Language totally don't remember a thing about this, altho I owned it at one point.3. Black Sheep - A Wolf In Sheep’s Clothing GREAT, funny, fairly low-key, lots of jokey sex rhymes.25. Organized Konfusion - Stress: The Extinction Agenda dunno how this measures up to the debut, which is really solid45. Method Man - Tical this is one of the weirdest, murkiest, darkest sounding hip hop records I have ever heard. it's not really as great as the other first-string solo Wu releases but it's definitely worth hearing. the beats sound like they were all recorded underwater in a garbage can.46. Prince Paul - A Prince Among Thieves CLASSIC, severely underrated. probably the best hip-hop concept album ever, and one that tells a coherent, clever story with solid performances from all involved plus top-notch head-nodding Prince Paul beats.48. Brand Nubian - One For All CLASSIC. I think there's only one track on here that is not fantastic. 5 Percenters + Native Tongues, basically.49. Handsome Boy Modelling School - So…How’s Your Girl? HORRIBLE. god I hate the Automator. a bummer that Prince Paul ever got involved with him60. Freestyle Fellowship - Innercity Griots kinda the West Coast answer to Native Tongues (aceyalone above was the main "breakout" member). rapping is amazingly nimble and dense but apart from one or two tracks I always felt their beats were kinda blah. Bullies of the Block is a great opening track tho.63. Del Tha Funkee Homosapien - No Need For Alarm heretical challops = I prefer his first album (which sounds more like an Ice Cube album)64. Mobb Deep - The Infamous CLASSIC73. Digable Planets - Blowout Comb CLASSIC, better than the first98. Main Source - Breaking Atoms CLASSIC
― crude interloper of a once august profession (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
this is pretty true, altho it's kinda more heavily weighted on the backpacker end of things.
― crude interloper of a once august profession (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Also croup don't give me the fucking bro card u mad.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
mad about what?
― da croupier, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link
llooll\/\/\//\/\/\llooll
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Tical and No Need for Alarm were big crossover records. I mean if I had them, you crossed over.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link
If you pit that list against others from the same time I think that's a net positive. In the same way other staff members stumped for the Wrens or Walt Mink; I just had better taste.
god damn you really are just a character aren't you
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link
0tt why don't you just start a blog about it?
― Sock Puppet Pizza Delivers To The Forest (Sock Puppet Queso Con Concentrate), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link
I did: http://geegeegeegeebabybabybaby.blogspot.com
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I have a house but only some people are allowed to see it
― Sock Puppet Pizza Delivers To The Forest (Sock Puppet Queso Con Concentrate), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link
in clicking on that Pitchfork individual writers' lists, I see that though I voted in it (and submitted a list), it has been excised entirely. written out of the anals of pfork history, i guess.
― beta blog, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link
the anals of pitchfork
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link
why y'all be google-proofin' all over this thread?
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 01:52 (thirteen years ago) link
book idea: 500 best bands of independent music by editors and writers of pitchfork, as well as guests from the independent music scene-- other editors/writers, band members, record store/label owners, etc. To range from 70s-00s (maybe 60s?). Each artist's entry would rate each of the band's albums, and include a few paragraph talking about the band's history. Core group of writers would split some of the profit. Others-- band members, etc.-- would lend Top 10 lists for sidebars, histories of major events or turning points for various genres, etc. (and possibly write some entries) as a favor.publish "concise edition" of pitchfork archive as large book-like magazine (such as "independent musician's resource") run with advertisements, update yearly, beginning with 2003advantages:++content already there!self-publish, sell through website (more $$)charge near-book ($8.95?) prices― Ryan Schreiber, Friday, January 17, 2003 9:19 AM (a wicked long time ago)
publish "concise edition" of pitchfork archive as large book-like magazine (such as "independent musician's resource") run with advertisements, update yearly, beginning with 2003
advantages:++content already there!self-publish, sell through website (more $$)charge near-book ($8.95?) prices
― Ryan Schreiber, Friday, January 17, 2003 9:19 AM (a wicked long time ago)
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 02:31 (thirteen years ago) link
in clicking on that Pitchfork individual writers' lists, I see that though I voted in it (and submitted a list), it has been excised entirely. written out of the anals of pfork history, i guess.― beta blog
― beta blog
Just curious, who are you?
― I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Someone with an unbelievable voicemail from me blown six stories high.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 12:02 (thirteen years ago) link
god, i wish. changing phone companies meant losing that "restraining order-worthy" voicemail.
ilxor, try google.
― beta blog, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link
25. Organized Konfusion - Stress: The Extinction Agenda dunno how this measures up to the debut, which is really solid
shakey it more than measures up, classic shit iMO
― 50.bison (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Gotcha. Hi there!
xp
― I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Dude I'm sorry about that for what it's worth. I hope you found the headspace to laugh it off.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Thursday, 7 October 2010 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link
no worries. i'm more pissed that i didn't make an mp3 of it for the internet to enjoy.
― beta blog, Thursday, 7 October 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm sure this has been covered on one of the Disco Inferno threads but I'm interested to know how highly Ned rates Technicolour? I know he and most people seem to prefer DI Goes Pop but having In Debt in the list and not Technicolour is really surprising. I really rate DI Goes Pop but I love Technicolour so much more.
I was shocked to see Menswe@r so high. I was obsessed with that band at the time even to the point where I bought the second album. I recently put Nuisance on and was disappointed at how much I wanted to skip.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 7 October 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
I really rate DI Goes Pop but I love Technicolour so much more.
^^
― I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Thursday, 7 October 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Technicolour is what it is. I feel strangely neutral about it.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 October 2010 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
OMG this thread.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 12:31 (seven years ago) link
Memories, corners of mind.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 12:37 (seven years ago) link