Rolling Country 2006 Thread

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well doodoo---maybe it's the html thing, but yeah just go to http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com and look just to the right of the latest post's title, and you'll see the link for the 10/2005 archive.

don (dow), Monday, 6 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

where does one perhaps request "crossroads"?

I dunno, charley patton always struck me as the real essential delta blues guy, pre-war. he had the rhythmic thing down, he is really funky and rocking, and robert johnson sounds affected by comparison. steve calt's bio of patton could scarcely be improved upon. the thing is, what world was uncle dave macon living in? he was farming and so forth, owned his own land or what? patton, though, what did he own? he lived a tough life--that would seem the big difference, that and patton's music seemed to reach forward and uncle dave macon was a relic of the past--not that there's anything wrong with that, but seems to me the diff between "rock and roll" and, you know, that opry shit. which is of course is slightly unfair to the opry, but it makes me feel good to put it that way. I like all that old weird country stuff fine, but I honestly never felt the emotional connection to it that I've always felt to those old blues guys.

g. himes wrote about the mammals, well, for No Depression, a while back. having heard donna the buffalo, duhks, mammals, nickel creek, and as I like to call 'im Surfin' Stevens, I kinda find the whole thing tiresome. I actually dug the weird sound and *muffled yet angry* thing the mammals did on "departure," and admire ruth ungar's songs. the duhks doing fraser & deBolt was very cool, a stroke, but for my part, Cuban/Brazilian instrumentation does not make a Cuban/Brazilian rhythmic aesthetic, far from it. their last record was really accomplished and while I respect them--I had a great conversation with Scott Senior, and they all seem to be fine people--their music isn't for me, it's for people in Boulder or something. having lived in Boulder, I know about what that whole thing is about. nickel creek is just plain boring, and I never could work up enough enthusiasm to even comment on them. donna the buffalo have some verve, some skank, even. the next step for these bands--brad mehldau is a very fine pianist who covers some, er, interesting pop songs, just like cassandra wilson fell asleep during her attempt to do "pleasant valley sunday" a decade ago--is to make a Big Record here in N-ville with Edgar Meyer and Jerry Douglas and Emmy lou and all them. avant-bluegrass or whatever. all I can say is, there must be some weird folk scenes in canada, and that it's a long way from where I live.

and yeah, roy, I'm a gene clark fan and you're right about "white." it's good. I also quite like "no other" and those great demos he did, like "los angeles." but I love "with the gosdin bros."

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 6 November 2006 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

haha I had to actually BUY my copy of Crossroads at Circuit City like an actual fan! I think it's on EMI Latin, which means GOOD FUCKING LUCK trying to actually get hold of anyone at the label.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 6 November 2006 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

g. himes wrote about the mammals, well, for No Depression, a while back

He did? I thought that was me. :)

I pretty much agree with xhuxk on NC, save the part about the Sufjan comparison. I mean there's a long tradition of boring, non-rocking newgrass/bluegrass/mathgrass (© Edd Hurt), so who needs indie rock to explain why Nickel Creek is crippled?

But they can be decent live--not that that redeems much....

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

ha ha, roy, you're right, I was thinking "duhks" but typed "mammals." himes' piece was in 2005, yours was pretty recent. goddam it, we should indeed just rename them the platypi and be done with it.

and I mean that's just my take on those bands. there's some part of me that kind of digs it but in the end I don't. it's sort of a good idea, what they do, and perhaps it comes down to the material, which is why I probably like the mammals the best, because their songs seem better.

and, I just checked out that memphis commercial appeal link that don forwarded, on george soule. fascinating. that's one I need to hear, since I've been steeped in muscle shoals/memphis white soul this last week, seeing donnie fritts and cropper and all them here.

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edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 6 November 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Edd, check Luc Sante's review of the xpost Patton box on villagevoice.com (although he's def not a Calt fan). Not saying Charlie ever had the prosperity, opportunities, etc.of Uncle Dave, but Luc and Bob Palmer (in Deep Blues) indicate he had some sense about the dollars he did get. And certainly an influential figure, a wizard & star to Those Who Knew, in his orbit. Yeah, I wanna check those country soul comps Merlis mentions too; here's the link, which prob won't work, but the subject is George Soule, the author is Bob Merlis and it was posted Nov. 4: http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/music/article/0,1426,MCA_505_5116472,00.html

don (dow), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link

it does work, woohoo!

don (dow), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Listening to Memphis Jug Band (Yazoo 1067, sometimes listed as Double Album, cos it advertises itself as that on the cover, but just s/t on spine and label). This is closer to Uncle Dave than Charley Patton is, and seems like their repetoire might overlap with Dave's, although maybe not "Cocaine Habit Blues"("Have a whiff on me," but also how nowadays all these young folks are goin' to the needles, rather than snortin'; now there's an old-country-folks-type headshaking comment). Something more slippery about this, as far as getting my own comments together, which is unfortunate, because I'm listening to it and then Jim Kweskin Jug Band, to compare with Asylum Street Spankers (or ASS, as their publicist calls them), who are subject of piece. Any thoughts, etc.

don (dow), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 05:33 (seventeen years ago) link

ASS should be a lot funnier then it is

pinkmoose (jacklove), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 09:54 (seventeen years ago) link

ASS's marijuana concept album had amusing moments; beyond that, it's never been clear to me what exactly their appeal is supposed to be.

Memphis Jug Band are one of the great bands of the century, though I would assume anybody familiar with my second book should already know I think that. And anybody who can't find Double Album (is it in print anymore? I'm guessing not) should track down the '01 Yazoo CD The Best Of The Memphis Jug Band. Better yet: own both, like I do. There's some overlap, of course, but less than you'd think, as I recall (someday I'll compare them track by track.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link

The CD is Yazoo 2059, fwiw.

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 11:56 (seventeen years ago) link

As for Charley (or Charlie? when did they change the spelling of his name>) Patton, I figure the Founder of the Delta Blues LP (Yazoo L-1020) is definitive, but if you can't find that one (which is likely), go with the The Best Of Charlie Patton CD (Yazoo 2069), and it's worth owning both if you find one of them cheap. Next in line, as far as I know, would be Charlie's Primevel Blues, Rags, and Gospel Songs (Yazoo 2074). (Isn't there also a Revenant box or something? I think I heard a sampler from it once.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:06 (seventeen years ago) link

the box is what i got frmo the library, it is one of he most beautiful objects ive seen, all packaged like 78s, and lots of old timey fonts, in handsome baize green leatherette, but still, listening to it, shrug...

pinkmoose (jacklove), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Sheldon Harris' "Blues Who's Who" spells it "Charley"/"Charlie" Patton, Calt's book has it "Charlie." I always spelled it "-ey."

And right, the Memphis Jug Band's stuff is among my very favorite music, and damned if I don't have my double-LP, the one with the Crumb drawing, any more. Steve Calt gave that to me years ago. I made a tape of that with some Cannon's Jug Stompers and the prime Rev. Robert Wilkins stuff. So that's one I need to get on CD, and thanks for reminding me.

I've known Calt since around '93, when he got me to go down to Bentonia, Miss. and interview a blues singer named Jack Owens. He's always been a good friend and I believe his heart is in the right place; I don't agree with him about a lot of stuff, and his whole take on the blues always seemed like a strenuous effort to place blues into a...framework of the Larger Culture, to analyze it like any other artform. Which should work, but somehow doesn't. Because it's just too strenuous, and you don't get anywhere kicking yourself over and over about your youthful idealism that has now flown.
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edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

"I would assume" yeah I knew that, just asking for comments in general; yep he does have theamazing Revenant boxset, which I already mentioned in first response to Anthony above, Screamin' & Hollerin' The Blues, which is what Luc reviewed in that piece I xpost rec'd to Edd, you prob edited that, didn't you? ASS's Mercurial is pretty funny, and also has the winsome-to-smoldering blues femme, sort of a Bob Wills/Tommy Duncan, guys/Maria M.(Kweskin Jug Band),Fred/gals(B-52s) or Louis Prima/Keely Smith, except here we get more whole sep tracks in each approach,

don (dow), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Also a bit like Dan Hicks & Hot Licks, with funny songs like "How Can I Miss You If You Won't Go Away?" (which sounds like he means it, so serious enough), and more overtly serious like "I Scare Myself," co-existing pretty well (also like Eleanor's poised vocals x Matthew's whacky sounds in Fiery Furnaces, although again that's almost always on the same track, not one approach per track)

don (dow), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

but now I'm gonna go vote, Yall Go Vote! Yall too, Pinkmoose & Tim!

don (dow), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

interview a blues singer named Jack Owens

Dude. Did you interview the Jack Owens? The one album I own, It Must Have Been the Devil, is astonishing. All I know about him is David Evans' liner notes.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Now I'm listening to Jim Kweskin & the Jug Band's Acoustic Swing & Jug. Tom Vickers put it together, and dammm, what momentum, incl songs from dif styles, turns (lovely "Memphis," and somehow I never noticed that Maria's brilliantly tossed-off signature "I'm A Woman" is by Lieber & Stoller!) Such committment in the male voices, too, right through the oh-so-whacky bits. Which don't detract,as I remember thinking they did (maybe they did on orig albums)

don (dow), Thursday, 9 November 2006 07:34 (seventeen years ago) link

r crumb has a new book out, where he has painted old blues, country and jazz singers, teh paintings have an intense emotional resonance, and a kind of classicism, i really like it.

however, even better is the comp cd that comes with the book, just a little sampler, but a really well curated collection of semi obscurities.

pinkmoose (jacklove), Thursday, 9 November 2006 08:54 (seventeen years ago) link

intense emotional resonance, and a kind of classicism

= big butts? (though only for the athletically inclined women, i'm guessing.) anyway, anthony, what's it called? (the cd and the book?)

xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 9 November 2006 12:28 (seventeen years ago) link

so, decided Darryl Worley's "Here and Now" > Dierks' "Long." What Worley lacks is a killer single like "That Don't Make It Easy," which as Chuck says above isn't as good as "Lot of Leavin'" on the last DB record. But it's an honorable rewrite of same, and certainly one of the best tracks I've heard all year. Worley takes that good ol' riff-driven, post-T-Bone Walker jazzy blues-rock, post-Allmans, with all those snazzy sharp-9 chords, and really does something with it. He's a far better singer than Dierks, I'd say. He never quite descends to the depths of sentimentality (Dierks' Heaven song, urp) that Dierks does, and it seems to me the musical statement Worley makes is more assured, in the long run, that Dierks' retooling of '70s Waylonisms and assorted Byrdsian abstraction. But, I had to drive to Lexington the other day and I can attest to the roadworthiness of the new Dierks record, that's exactly where it sounds best, in a car.

Interesting reissue of Terry Manning's "Home Sweet Home," a real curio from 1970 on which the Memphis producer/musician (he runs Compass Point Studio in Nassau, a very great studio indeed, and the man has truly done it all, producing ZZ Top and Led Zep and Big Star and lots of others) does a 10-minute version of G. Harrisong's "Savoy Truffle," a maniacal Jerry Lee pastiche, and even a fine twisted version of Jack Clement's "Guess Things Happen." It's a parody of heavy 1969-era rock and a parody of the historical impulse as it is writ in Memphis. Remarkably solid and one of the funnest things I've heard in a while.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 9 November 2006 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link

and, looking at Nashville Music Guide Oct. issue, I see a seven-star review by Brad Fischer for Moe Bandy's "Legendary Country," and the news that a 3-CD Moe box is in the works. "More than anything else he loves to perform especially for his countless fans. But his record career is still on fire. Recently he hooked up with Dennis Money, producer and president of Sweetsong Nashville, an independent label...."Legendary Country"...reflects Moe Bandy's honky tonk roots and is very refreshing compared to what Music Row has been offering." Anyone on earth heard this, except for those who make the trek to Branson and the Moe Bandy Americana Theatre?

Also, Herrmuth Bronson does Musicians Spotlight, this month Charlie McCoy. "Of the musicians that you haven't played with, who would be the three you would most like to work with." "Allison Krauss, Alan Jackson, Diana Krall." The cover of this rag has a circular "violator" that says "#1 when you Google on 'Nashville Music'," but damned if I can figure out how a publication devoted to Music City can't get a little spell-checker going so they could spell Ms. Krauss's first name correctly.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

heros of blues, jazz and country

the big butt classicism is from art and beauty, no i mean tehy are mostly from the chest up, faces in great detail, with out much background detail...

the man can draws i tell yah

pinkmoose (jacklove), Thursday, 9 November 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, he's done a lot of album covers too, like that Memphis Jug Band Double Album (or s/t or Yazoo 1067, whatever you want to call it). Did he do the cover of their Best Of, xxhuxx? And is Charlie Nickerson on it? He shows up on the last couple of 1067 tracks, and suavely kills, like showing Jolson, Crosby, whomever, how to do it. Yet another medicine show guy, who sat in with MJB when in town, or on one of their own med show sidetrips. Wonder if he recorded elsewhere, I'll have to google. Who's on the CD companion, pinkmoose? Wish he'd do another Cheap Suit Serenaders, or some kind of musical performance project of his own. I ended up mostly focussing on ASS's Mercurial, which doesn't have any whacky tobacky jokes or Morning Drive DJ bait. Christina's got the Maria Muldaur thing down, but emulation more than imitation (dynamics, tone, etc, but not trying to do that warble)

don (dow), Friday, 10 November 2006 05:05 (seventeen years ago) link

don, its anthony here, pinkmoose is b/c ilx got sad on me.

here is the list:
On The Road Again Memphis Jug Band
Sobbin' Blues "King" Oliver's Creole Jazz Band (W/ Louis Armstrong) Kater Street Rag Bennie Moten's Kansas City Orchestra
Dark Night Blues Blind Willie McTell
All Night Long Blues Burnett And Rutherford
Minglewood Blues Cannon's Jug Stompers
High Water Everywhere Charley Patton R. Crumb's Heroes Of Blues, Jazz & Country Folk
Wild Cat Blues Clarence Williams' Blue Five w Sidney Bechet
Little Rabbit Crockett's Kentucky Mountaineers
Sugar Baby Dock Boggs
Mineola Rag East Texas Serenaders
I Got Mine Frank Stokes
Somebody Stole My Gal Frankie Franko & His Louisianians (W/ Ernes "Punch" Miller)
The Peddler And His Wife Hayes Shepherd
I'm Gonna Cross The River Of Jordan – Some O' These Days
Jaybird Coleman
Kansas City Stomps-Jelly Roll Morton & His Red Hot Peppers
King Joe Jimmy Noone
Mojo Strut Parham–Pickett Apollo Syncopaters (W/ "Tiny" Parham & Junie C. Cobb)
Big Bend Gal Shelor Family
Hard Time Killin' Floor Blues Skip James
Greenback Dollar Weems String Band

pinkmoose (jacklove), Friday, 10 November 2006 07:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, he's done a lot of album covers too, like that Memphis Jug Band Double Album (or s/t or Yazoo 1067, whatever you want to call it). Did he do the cover of their Best Of, xxhuxx?

Nah, there's a photo of them on that one. They're standing on a porch, all wearing hats. No jugs, but some barrels in the background.

Caddle, Raise 'Em High: Had hopes for this well-meaning Southern rock thing. First track, "Mississippi Doublewide", is not bad. Most of the rest is Drive By Truckers with a worse singer and worse tunes. Songs don't sink in, and they don't especially kick.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 11 November 2006 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link

im beginning to think that faith hill's fireflies album was the best of last year, and im wondering why i didnt love it more sooner

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 11 November 2006 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I was starting to think that this week, too, Anthony! Weird!

For proof, here is my working list (so far) of the 40 best 2005 albums by artists from A to J in the alphabet (which is how far I've gotten so far, many many more to go, this project will take a while):

2005
Jefferson Airplane – The Essential (RCA/Legacy reissue)
The Hold Steady – Separation Sunday (French Kiss)
Deana Carter – The Story Of My Life (Vanguard)
Fannypack – See You Next Tuesday (Tommy Boy)
Foxy/OXO/Company B – Ishology (Re/Empire reissue)
Desmond Dekker – You Can Get It If You Really Want: The Definitive Collection (Trojan reissue)
Bang Sugar Bang – Thwak Thwak Go Crazy!! (SOS)
Hard Skin – Same Meat Different Gravy (TKO)
Gary Allan – Tough All Over (MCA Nashville)
Buck 65 – This Right Here Is (Warner Bros. reissue)
George Brigman And Split – Jungle Rot (Bona Fide reissue)
The Electric Boogie Dawgz – Sloppy, Fast & Loud (Hooch)
Roky Erickson – I Have Always Been Here Before: The Roky Erickson Anthology (Shout! Factory reissue)
Shooter Jennings – Put The O Back In Country (Universal South)
Faith Hill – Fireflies (Warner Bros.)
Destiny’s Child - #1’s (Sony Urban Music/Columbia reissue)
The Duhks – The Duhks (Sugar Hill)
Derin Dow – Retroactive (Crapshoot Music)
Hank Davison Band – Hard Way (Elite Special)
Dierks Bentley – Modern Day Drifter (Capitol)
Hot Rollers – Got Your Number (Sweaty Betty)
The Ex – Singles, Period: The Vinyl Years 1980-1990 (Touch & Go reissue)
(Various) – Cameo-Parkway 1957-1967 (Abkco reissue)
Brooks & Dunn – Hillbilly Deluxe (Arista Nashville)
Black Lips – Let It Bloom (In The Red)
Shelly Fairchild – Ride (Columbia)
Doomfoxx – Doomfoxx (Armageddon Music)
Todd Tamanend Clark – Nova Psychedelia: 1975-1985 (Anopheles reissue)
George Brigman And Split – I Can Heart The Ants Dancin’ (Bona Fide reissue)
First Band From Outer Space – We’re Only In It For the Space Rock (Transubstans)
Detroit Disciples – Saving Grace (Route 44)
The Grand Trick – The Decadent Session (Transubstans)
Penny Dale – Undaunted (pennydale.com)
Annie – Anniemal (Big Beat)
Cowboy Troy – Locomotive (Warner Bros./Raybaw)
The Birthday Massacre – Violet (Metropolis)
Early Man – Closing In (Matador)
Human Eye – Human Eye (In The Red)
Crazy Frog – Presents Crazy Hits (Universal)
Blueprint – 1988 (Rhymesayers Entertainment)

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 11 November 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

(Cameo Parkway comp only on there because it's on my box set shelf; haven't begun to tackle the comp shelf yet. Not to mention a few other auxilary shelves that contain A through J's, so caveat emptor.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 11 November 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

wow, im having trouble getting that far, here is mine:

country
singles
1) not ready to make nice--dixie chicks
2) running block--toby keith
3) will daddy sing danny boy tonight--hacendia brothers
4) like red on a rose--alan jackson
5) like we never loved at all--tim/faith
6) jesus take the wheel--carrie underwood
7) faith hill--stealing kisses
8) Trace Adkins "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk"
9) josh gracin--Big Brass Bed
10) Willie Nelson--Cowboys are Secretly, Frequently, Fond of Each Other
11) Bubba Sparxx Aint Life Grand
12) Scott Miller Citation
13) Tim McGraw STars Go Blue
14) Chris Cagle--Wal Mart Parking Lot
15) Brady Earnhart--Thank God Virgina is on our side
16) Jamie Johnson--The Dollar
17) George Strait--The Seashores of Old Mexico
18) Aaron Pritchett--Hold My Beer...

albums

1) kris kristofferson, this old world
2) jessi colter, this old fire
3) cyndi boste foothill dandy
4) Roseanne Cash black cadillac
5) josh turner--your man
6) Brokeback OST
7) Gary Bennett Human Condition
8) Bruce Springsteen--The Seeger Sessions

other music
singles
1) fergie--london bridge
2) gwen stefani--wind me up
3) theo blackman--chi chim chi ree
4) jessica simpson--public affair
5) Pharell/Ludacris--money maker
6) max tudnra--so long far well
7) beyonce--ring the alarm
9) alan jackson--like red on a rose
10) kd lang--love for sale

albums
1) alpendub-- jo delay
2) pharell--in my mind
3) gabriel kahune--craigslist leider
4) Marie Antoinette OST

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 11 November 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

chuck Josh Ritters These Animal Years onto the best coutnry albums

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 11 November 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

except my lists were from the '05, not the '06 (and also way incomplete)

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 11 November 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

"Everybody" by Keith Urban = totally John Waite circa 1984.

There's another track that made me think of Rick Springfield crossed with Tom Petty, but I didn't take note yet of which one it was.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 00:54 (seventeen years ago) link

And "Tu Compania" sort of sounded like "All She Wants To Do Is Dance" from the other room where I was folding laundry, but less so up close, where I noted the sexy Latina whispering sweet Spanish nothings in Keith's comparably sexy ear. Still think there might well be some Don Henley amongst its clippity-clop somewhere, though.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 01:06 (seventeen years ago) link

another track that made me think of Rick Springfield crossed with Tom Petty

"Used to The Pain," maybe? Though maybe it's more Dwight Twilley? Phil Seymour? Somebody. Or even, uh, the Bodeans or one of those twerpy anal-compulsive bands that got overrated in Creem in the '80s? Or even later, like that shitty band who did the theme from Friends, or those dorks Del Amitri with the unbearable baby carriage video? With Chris Isaacs high notes, yikes. But suprisingly enough, I find myself liking it. And either way, yeah: Powerpop. ("Got It Right This Time" on now. Is that a drum machine?)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 02:39 (seventeen years ago) link

are you thinking of "faster car," chuck, on the urban? that's the one that hit me as totally skinny-tie...

so, too, was "i can't stop loving you" a hit only in europe for leo sayer (and phil collins did it later on)? billy nicholls, whose 1975 "love songs" is an ancestor of the urban record, wrote it.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 12 November 2006 05:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't think I'm thinking of "Faster Car," Edd, though I might be. (Then again, there is powerpop and there is powerpop, you know?)

Melody of "Got It Right This Time" (the apparently drum-machined one) is "Only You" by Yazoo! Damn, this is really shameless...

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

And "God Made Woman" sounds like a better Bon Jovi song than anything I've heard by Jon Bon lately. (Lots of na-na-na singalong chorus parts on Keith's album; cool! Hey hey, kiss him goodbye.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

"Faster Car" does indeed wear its 1979 skinny-tie on its, um, neck, I guess. More Ian Gommm than Tom Petty, I'd say. Or maybe the Rumour without Graham Parker? Somebody like that. Weird scratchy vinyl effects at the start, too, with somebody saying "figaro figaro." And a tough little riff and chug to the thing. Then, later, horn charts.

Also love the guitar explorations at the end of the opening track, "Once In A Lifetime." Keith's finally found space to show off, I guess -- five over-five-minute cuts, one of which goes over six ("Stupid Boy," which hasn't kicked in yet and seems to wait too long to let the guitars kick in, but the title's intriguing so I have high hopes.) Aforementioned opener is also the second longest track on the album -- how often does that happen on a country record? Second track also goes over five minutes, with Elton John orchestrations then more guitars at the end. "Raise The Barn" with Ronnie Dunn, 5:12, start off Stones-like and goes into a cool disco-funk break at the 3-minute mark, plus lots of gospel hallelujahs and stuff tosssed into the mix in tribute (the liner notes say) to New Orleans overcoming Katrina. A really interesting record, even if the John Waite rip does claim that "everybody needs somebody sometimes".

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, you know who "Used To The Pain" reminds me of? The Babys! So John Waite figures very prominently on the new Keith Urban album. And I might like that powerpop song even better than "Faster Cars"'s powerpop. (One obvious link between skinny-tie powerpop and current rock-country would be .38 Special -- even ask Van Zant. But I'm wondering if Urban might have been inspired by some Aussie equivalents of all this old pop-rock stuff. Supposedly he was part of a trio down under before going solo country; anybody have any idea how pop or rock they might have been? It'd be pretty wacky if it turned out they aspired to be, like, the Hoodoo Gurus or whoever.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

(I guess that's supposed to be a cowboy accent.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 06:16 (seventeen years ago) link

All Music sez that young Keith Urban was inspired by Dire Straits & Lindsey Buckingham.

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Monday, 13 November 2006 06:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i still think i need to know more of the rock you folks are joining in on...

kogan, i think its supposed to be bad, but that said, ive always enjoyed the theme tune things by charollote church, i find them cheeky fun

pinkmoose (jacklove), Monday, 13 November 2006 09:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking of country accents (I posted this on the teenpop thread, too), am I the only one who really doesn't hear Hannah/Miley's voice as country at all (or at least as a lot less country, than, say, Hope Partlow's)? It must be there, especially if Metal Mike heard it, but I'm wondering if people are imagining a twang and drawl just a little thanks to her achy breaky dad. Or maybe I'm just deaf....

(Also should add that, what with Jon Tester's victory, this has been quite a week for Montana. I almost imagine Disney planning that way, like they pegged the state as the future before the news media did. Word now is that unemployed Detroit auto workers are moving there...)

And yeah, Knopfler/Buckingham makes obvious sense in re: Keith Urban's guitar.

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

(Maybe the displaced Detroiters are hoping to be dental floss tycoons.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I can think of lots of people who hear no country accent in Miley Cyrus' voice: the hundreds of thousands of pre-teens who bought the soundtrack album!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Posted this on the teenpop thread:

"Best of Both Worlds" has a pronounced* southern accent in the verses (but not particularly a country way of phrasing). The southern accent is barely present on "Who Said" (which nonetheless has a twangy guitar), except for the twist she puts on a few words at the end of a line: "magazines," "my way." And it seems gone altogether from "I Got Nerve."

*One does tend to pronounce one's accent, doesn't one?

[Haikunym, I'm sure some of the teens who bought the soundtrack noticed the southern (though not all that country) accent. Why in the world wouldn't they? Btw, a large number of teenpop stars were born in the South, though many of 'em ended up in NY or LA.]

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Eisenhower and live Neil Young are the only remotely country albs in this week's AOL listening party. (Also streaming the Game, which Sanneh says is the hip-hop album of the year, and Akon and Fat Joe.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link


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