funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

I dunno though, the best funky instrumentals are just big carnival forward motion bangers really, whereas Ecstacy Refix or She Wore Velour stutter and jerk in a sort of frankenstep way. They don't seem very interested in momentum or groove and that's pretty much my base requirement for all dance music, same reason I can't really get with dubstep.

(matt don't listen to the most recent marcus, it's the least interesting one there's been for ages! get the awesome one before:

http://relay.exequo.org/rinsefm/podcast/MarcusNasty220910.mp3

although be aware there's no vocals on it.)

big carnival forward motion bangers

^^^ Yes this is what I was trying and failing to say.

I can cosign on 22 September set.

lol @ rtc trolling me into posting to this thread

real talk though if u are recording a radio set why not do it at a high bitrate
also many thnx for directing me to the james blake thread -- top notch moonship

I assume the low bitrate is to avoid killing their servers. I'm not really a bitrate Nazi tho.

Whereas funky instrumentals since day one have not been like that on the whole. Most are played for 2 minutes. So you get these very basic, very repetitive tunes, which might not sound all that much if you just listen to them on their own, but the whole point is the accretion, the rapidfire mixing from one to the next. In this regard Marcus instrumental sets are more thrilling than Night Slug style sets, but of course the difference is that they're rifling through nearly twice as many songs and half the point is the interzones between tracks. So it's a very different vibe and a very different approach to track production.

To expand on the above, even the funky tracks embraced by global bass / "tropical" (is this just a label / club night or is it actually an emergent sub-genre name? I'm seeing it a lot...) DJs accord with the rest of funky in their construction - very functionalist tunes with, at most, an 8-bar variation. And on those kinds of DJ sets these tunes occupy the shortest amount of space in terms of the airtime alloted to them, effectively working as links between the more epic (non-funky) tracks in much the same way that, say, minimal DJs four or five years ago would use more stripped back straightahead techno (or house) "tools" as bridges between the more complex and deliberately epic tracks (I'm not decrying this BTW, it makes a lot of sense from a DJ perspective obv).

It means that the dynamic of these tracks in that context feels rather different to how they would sound in a usual funky set, and I think it also offers a handy guide to why particular funky tracks get really big... DVA, Roska, "Different Lekstrix", "Rass Out": quite apart from the fact that this stuff is more readily available than most funky tunes, whereas in a funky set these are basically all variations on "big carnival forward motion bangers" (and to the extent that they drift from this, as Roska and DVA can tend to, they become less popular), in the context of a global bass set these are more like plateaus of arrested counter-groove briefly spicing up the set with a sound that is, yes, kinetic, but also internally busted, like a non-starting engine flipping over ("Natty" being the most extreme and literal example of this).

Upthread I think we had a discussion of Roska in this regard, how his album probably underwhelms people because it's like that but with each track lasting for 7 minutes.

It's the same for any of these tunes really. "Different Lekstrix", which sounds amazing for three minutes esp. with MCs on top, starts to flag slightly over its full length (and it's only 5 minutes) as a standalone single.

But it sounds particularly different in the context of an MC-driven set, as do so many other tunes that might otherwise fit that global bass interregnum logic (say, Marcus and Bassboy's "Stamp" for example). The MC acts as a kind of guiding median line, a rope bridge crossing through the topographical extremes of the groove, which is why these tunes can feel like "forward motion bangers" even when, in many ways, they're nothing of the sort.

hey durr before you resign yourself to your abject fate maybe check the 22nd sept marcus set three people said was massive just before you made your query

it is all tribal bangers so ur unlikely to catch any horrid girl cooties off it

― r|t|c, Sunday, 3 October 2010 11:37 (Yesterday) Bookmark

I actually downloaded that a couple of days ago. Only managed to listen for 15 minutes or so. I always get turned off when someone MC's for a full mix like that. I want to hear the music, dammit. And FYI I don't mind this "girl cooties" you were talking about. I like "Do You Mind."

Okay I listened to the first half of that Marcus 22nd Sep mix on the way in, what's the tune about 22mins in with the squishy bell noise in the background? Also after about 35mins there's one with big tribal drums and buzzing noises that's just huge.

And FYI I don't mind this "girl cooties" you were talking about. I like "Do You Mind."

Durrr, everyone likes "Do You Mind", it's so ubiquitously adored that it doesn't really say anything about what you do or don't enjoy.

What's the tune about 22mins in with the squishy bell noise in the background?

The first half of 22 mins is a refix of "Gabryelle" which I assume you'd recognise. Then it becomes Funkystepz's marvelous "Fuller" which is what I think you're talking about.

Also after about 35mins there's one with big tribal drums and buzzing noises that's just huge.

35 minutes is Emvee's "Windrush Riddim" which I just adore. But I think you're talking about the track after that (from about 36 min) which is indeed massive but which I don't know.

Actually I think those numbers are a bit off, I'll have another listen.

the awesome one at 35 mins is mercurial myrmidon's 'hey bongo', from the new ep they were kind enough to put out for free:

http://thestayspun.com/2010/08/27/mercurial-myrmidon-the-warm-up-ep/

also contains 'pataptoon' which marcus listeners will be familiar with. (trust that website to stream the other two duff tracks instead eh?)

i hope people noticed rankin inexplicably saying "chimpanzee" in the background just before the drop on 'windrush' btw.

I keep clicking back on this thread to stare at this:

http://imgur.com/kGgVc.gif

from what movie is that?

who is this chick?

http://imgur.com/hG6BG.gif

ummm ... that movie is clueless, that chick is blair waldorf from gossip girl, and you are currently living under a rock somewhere on a planet called earth. try not to take it all in at once?

if anyone else has any questions regarding uk funky we strongly advise you to state whether you have seen clueless or not, and if so whether it's under or over a thousand times, in order to assist our assessment and help process your enquiry.

as we are extremely short staffed we may not get back to you immediately, but do please keep trying to reach us.

invite you dudes to check out my user profile for no particular reason and for a limited time only btw - just realised something important about myself

I am very pleased by your path of self-realisation.

Good on Ill Blu for coming up with a slightly new drum pattern for themselves, I hadn't noticed that about this tune in the mix.

my 'favorite movies' according to facebook include clueless and bubba ho-tep
imo more bubba ho-tep gifs needed

ummm ... that movie is clueless, that chick is blair waldorf from gossip girl, and you are currently living under a rock somewhere on a planet called earth. try not to take it all in at once?

― r|t|c, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 11:31 (9 hours ago) Bookmark

haha. actually i was thinking, "is this clueless?" well, it's been YEARS since i watched it.

i downloaded the first 2 episodes of gossip girl some time ago to check what the fuss was about. well i guess it's time to watch it. i hope she's as cute as in the gif.

love it when cooly g put "elle (ame remix)" on her mixes.

what funky shows are essential if I'm already listening to marcus/petchy/funkystepz on the regular? I'm trying to keep redundancy to a minimum so if everyone else is just playing the same stuff I'm not really that interested.

Ill Blu

Smoove Kriminal on 23 August 2010

yeah forgot about ill blu. i think i heard that smoove kriminal set, but does he play regularly?

>_<

Soul Jazz continue their travels through contemporary UK underground dance music ("Box Of Dub", "Steppers Delight", "Future Bass") with "Riddim Box" a new compilation of the most unique, left-field and innovative UK funky releases of the recent past mixing together grime, house, dubstep, dancehall and R&B to stunning effect. "Riddim Box" brings together some of the most innovative artists and creative UK producers with this stellar selection of twisted left-field tracks from celebrated names such as Shystie, Kode9, Crazy Cousins alongside exclusive cuts from LV, Grievous Angel and more.

With its roots in the UK Garage scene and emerging out of the union of dubstep and house, UK funky draws a line from the original sounds of jungle and drum and bass and dancehall through to the newer UK dance music variants such as grime, dubstep and 2-step.

TRACK LISTING
Disc 1

1. Altered Natives - Rass Out
2. MJ Cole - Volcano Riddim
3. Nb Funky - Riddim Box
4. Tubby T - Ready She Ready (Seiji Remix)
5. Sunship Featuring Warrior
6. Queen - Almighty Father (Solid Groove Remix)
7. Zumen Featuring Aaron Phiri
8. And Leafnuts - Rolexxx
9. Hard House Banton - Sirens
10. Ghosts On Tape - Predator Mode (Roska Remix)
11. Donae'o - African Warrior (Instrumental)

Disc 2

1. Stereotyp Versus Al Haca - Blaze 'N' Cook (Radioslave Remix)
2. Kode9 - Black Sun
3. Lil' Silva - Pulse Vs Flex
4. LV - Crossfire
5. Omar And Zed Bias - Dancing (Instrumental)
6. D Malice - Gabryelle (Refix)
7. Grievous Angel - Move Down
8. Low (Dubplate Mix)
9. DVA - Natty
10. Shystie - Pull It (Ill Blu Remix)
11. Crazy Cousinz - Attract

stick this on and let the rage pass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4fDi23fna0

also if i'm honest then a limp offering like rinse's i love funky is ultimately much more frustrating than whatever the tedious cunts at souljazz can come up with.

smoove krim does play fairly regularly btw - he updates here:
http://smoovekriminal.podomatic.com/

and dj weeksey is similarly worthwhile though podcasts are seldom lately:
http://djweeksey.podomatic.com/entry/2010-10-02T20_08_14-07_00

pioneer on kiss can be okay for the odd track id now and then, meh altogether though:
http://djs.totalkiss.com/2010/10/tracklisting-081010/

wash your hands after visiting but the dj naughty guest mix here is good stuff once it gets going.

mad one's brill 'nanny pest' is worth the entry fee alone - like a cross between 'house girls' and murdz86's 'dem rasta ways dere', but even better.

well alright perhaps i exaggerate. check it out 4 yourselves though:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/813189410f233c44/

also if i'm honest then a limp offering like rinse's i love funky is ultimately much more frustrating than whatever the tedious cunts at souljazz can come up with.

This is what I felt like on paper too but actually when you listen to it the Supa D mix is a pretty great anthems selection for anyone who doesn't have awesome radio sets in their pocket.

MA1's set of course confirms what I always suspected, which is that he basically resents the past two years of funky's development. The inclusion of "Seasons" is a somewhat hamfisted denial.

Finally listed to that late September Ill Blu set. So good! Immensely satisfying percussive rave frenzy.

Also I listened to it.

dunno if it's really related to this topic, but 'chazm/footsteppin'' by julio bashmore is great, but it might be just my soft spot for these kind of eerie (chazm) or nostalgic (footsteppin') tracks. the rythm on the first one draws a (sort of) straight line to funky, tho.

'nanny prest' is massive. tim or rtc, could you point me a set where i can find 'tribal dream day' or 'gotta have it' ? (dunno if i ever heard them, tbh*)

*there is also a track by devine called 'night train', right?

hi ross, dunno about the other ones but a brief bit of 'tribal daydream' is on the marcus & majestic soundcloud mix from january... sadly it's not on there any more though.

filling in gaps of funky miscellany gone by is probably not the ting tbh w/ u.

^^hm. guess ur right...

ross?

lol @ the ill blu tune/remix that goes "you should know my twin towers will never fall easily"

though i suppose it could be a lord of the rings reference

"Gotta Have It" was on a lot of Marcus sets at the very beginning of 09. Pretty sure it's on Jan 15 which is far and away the best set from that period IMO (from memory this set also has "Every Step", "You Got Me", "Turbulence", the what's going on/gypsy woman combo..).

I'll try to post it one of these days.

Have been on another Ill Blu tracks/remixes binge these past few days. It really does quite shock me that their rep isn't even bigger than it is (I mean, beyond the bounds of funky and then tedious types who only like/know the Hyperdub single) - they're so obv the pre-eminent production team in the world right now.

Though I guess I felt the same way about the wideboys in 2000. Same as it ever was.

What I like about Ill Blu remixes though is how they often have this kind of dialectical process of consolidation going on - adding new tricks and then reterritorialising them into the typical "Ill Blu" sound.

So, like, if you wanted to play someone the most representative Ill Blu production at this point it'd probably be the "Green Light" remix, which also happens to be one of their most extreme/maximalist - in this case the archetype is the extremity/maximalism.

this is a funky house tune by one of petchys mates and i like it.
http://soundcloud.com/coobe-beatz/i-love-to-dance

LIONS DEN. SHUT UP.

More information? (what should I be downloading)

where else?, and around the 90 min mark. (it is the "hi dere rhythmic danger" number). should add the track a couple beforehand is very dutty also.

LIONS DEN. SHUT UP.

Oh yes. This is ridic.

Do we know who it is?

should add the track a couple beforehand is very dutty also.

I'm assuming this is the one at 87 minutes.

Big show!

god not to piss on its undoubtedly unfuckwitable chips or anything but i can scarcely believe that that 'lions den' will ever ever again sound as incredible as it did there - sharing the new awe w/ ranks & shants and rankin absolutely tearing it first go unheard. (shout out to hector the cannibal.)

dunno who its by yet, no. quite hard to place who it even might be by even! though i'm sure it'll be obvious in hindsight.

the other track - meant the one before actually. or rather this.

rankin was on top form the whole show really - who else would try out some new humble god-praising bars and then think out loud "hmm those might need a bit of lubrication". hero obv.

MCRanking
Janet Street Porter..... Hmmmmmmmmm... She got a daughter?
10:04 PM Oct 21st via Echofon

(i done another aspie tracklist for that show earlier btw - probably most unnecessary but can put up if anyone really wants. also if one of the "estonian massive" who seem to get a shout on every single ruddy rinse show i've listened to lately ask for it i will definitely oblige.)

some terrific ill blu stuff on their own recent shows as well: a hilariously furious overdriven grime hoover one (which would be fun enough already if it didnt also have a drop into complete and utter MAYHEM) and then that massive breakbeaty "get freaky with you" track with the swooping vox and pounding everything.

both can be most easily heard during their little funkystepzy own-brand segment starting round about the 50min mark here:

http://relay.exequo.org/rinsefm/podcast/IllBlu121010.mp3