funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

Maybe I've got bad ears or something b/c as long as I've got half decent ($20 or more) earphones the rinse podcasts always sound absolutely fine to me.

Deja sets can be a bit iffy from time to time, and obv anything actually taped off the radio is likely to be a bit hairy.

any radio set about an hour long (not two or three or FOUR, jesus, that's just not gonna happen) and NOT at whatever gross bitrate the rinse sets are uploaded at, i'm happy to listen to. tbh i've rarely got anything out of any radio set though, i gave a few marcus nasty ones a try when i first got into funky and they definitely weren't what convinced me. i don't listen to the night slugs gang on rinse either.

it'd be good to talk about the funky mixes that are occasionally posted - i absolutely love the dj reflex, new era ones for instance.

also the constant snark/dismissal/ignorance in tim and rtc's constant attempts to make night slugs and its affiliates appear like some sort of horrible dubstep/idm hybrid that has nothing whatsoever to do with funky is just nagl at all, it's sad that anyone buys into it.

wrt "proper" funky i find that the vocal tunes coming out of it are some of my favourite stuff ever, but the instrumentals aren't a patch on what night slugs have been propducing this year.

RTC - it's not languishing, I'm listening to way more of it than I am of that Girl Unit stuff, just not the radio sets really. Although it's not like there's a new two-hour Terius album out every week and if there were I'd be just as behind.

lol xp

i'm pretty sure i'm consistent across all genres in demanding a decent bitrate. it's not like i'm nick southall, christ.

I for one intend on asking all future cab drivers to turn their radio off if they can't guarantee a decent bass response, and that includes if they're listening to Five Live.

also the constant snark/dismissal/ignorance in tim and rtc's constant attempts to make night slugs and its affiliates appear like some sort of horrible dubstep/idm hybrid that has nothing whatsoever to do with funky is just nagl at all, it's sad that anyone buys into it.

I think I was very polite in my response to durr durr actually. And I'd never call Night Slugs a dubstep/idm hybrid, more of a dubtep/bmore/funky hybrid I would have thought.

"proper" funky i find that the vocal tunes coming out of it are some of my favourite stuff ever, but the instrumentals aren't a patch on what night slugs have been propducing this year.

this is very wrong though.

Although it doesn't really surprise me that you'd arrive at that conclusion. The best instrumentals are also precisely the tunes most likely to fly under the radar if you avoid radio sets.

i'm going by the ones you picked out on skykicking, pretty much. i mean, i like them, i just don't think very much about them when they're not playing. "that mystic", "fogs", "she wore velour", "wut", "arpjam", "the only way up (ikonika remix)", "ecstasy refix" >>>>> all of them.

Wait I take it you don't mean that based on some youtubes I posted you think funky instrumentals have fallen off.

You can keep ranting or you can stop but by all means please keep posting gifs.

http://imgur.com/b2bD6.gif

also the constant snark/dismissal/ignorance in tim and rtc's constant attempts to make night slugs and its affiliates appear like some sort of horrible dubstep/idm hybrid that has nothing whatsoever to do with funky

http://imgur.com/kGgVc.gif

is just nagl at all, it's sad that anyone buys into it.

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but the instrumentals aren't a patch on what night slugs have been propducing this year.

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RTC - it's not languishing, I'm listening to way more of it than I am of that Girl Unit stuff, just not the radio sets really. Although it's not like there's a new two-hour Terius album out every week and if there were I'd be just as behind.

http://imgur.com/A9R5I.gif

i mean, i like them, i just don't think very much about them when they're not playing.

http://imgur.com/SmmfM.gif

http://imgur.com/inHgJ.gif

If I can steal one of yours, that post was:

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr148/Dabears5540/61808972.gif

oh god "internet "pwning". i'm sure there's a rolleyes gif somewhere out there that you can imagine at this point.

done w/this thread, anyway.

LOL not like the simple naturalistic eloquence of the night slugs cover art ur used to eh.

beyonce3dglasses is no higher praise btw - my alltime fave

Lex on a more serious note, I think your comparison of funky instrumentals to recent Night Slugs releases is precisely why I don't like to compare and collapse the two areas and think it's more fruitful to think of Night Slugs as a separate thing.

Like, I really love the That Mystic EP ("Fogs" is probably my favourite though they're all good, "Seven Chirp" another highlight for me) and quite like The Velvet Collection, but these are tracks that are designed to be played out and heard in full, in isolation, as much as in the mix. They're highly structured, developing over the course of the track, and with very high production values, lots of thick fleshy synth melodies etc.

Whereas funky instrumentals since day one have not been like that on the whole. Most are played for 2 minutes. So you get these very basic, very repetitive tunes, which might not sound all that much if you just listen to them on their own, but the whole point is the accretion, the rapidfire mixing from one to the next. In this regard Marcus instrumental sets are more thrilling than Night Slug style sets, but of course the difference is that they're rifling through nearly twice as many songs and half the point is the interzones between tracks. So it's a very different vibe and a very different approach to track production.

Meant to say "In this regard Marcus instrumental sets are more thrilling than Night Slug style sets for me..."

lex i would love you to come back and expand on how "you think about those instrumentals when they're not playing" though, cos a collective self-congratulatory overawareness of collage at the expense of groove was pretty much the central pillar of why i thought that drumzofthesouth club night mix you were boosting sucked - this also applies to the global bass aesthetic in general

Okay RTC I promise to give the latest Marcus show a listen this evening. Now

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like i dunno about anyone else but the bok bok mixes i've heard actually most reminded me of listening to that gang gang dance album the other year. and long-term fans will remember how i already drew a line with them and dj/rupture to zero acclaim.

I dunno though, the best funky instrumentals are just big carnival forward motion bangers really, whereas Ecstacy Refix or She Wore Velour stutter and jerk in a sort of frankenstep way. They don't seem very interested in momentum or groove and that's pretty much my base requirement for all dance music, same reason I can't really get with dubstep.

(matt don't listen to the most recent marcus, it's the least interesting one there's been for ages! get the awesome one before:

http://relay.exequo.org/rinsefm/podcast/MarcusNasty220910.mp3

although be aware there's no vocals on it.)

big carnival forward motion bangers

^^^ Yes this is what I was trying and failing to say.

I can cosign on 22 September set.

lol @ rtc trolling me into posting to this thread

real talk though if u are recording a radio set why not do it at a high bitrate
also many thnx for directing me to the james blake thread -- top notch moonship

I assume the low bitrate is to avoid killing their servers. I'm not really a bitrate Nazi tho.

Whereas funky instrumentals since day one have not been like that on the whole. Most are played for 2 minutes. So you get these very basic, very repetitive tunes, which might not sound all that much if you just listen to them on their own, but the whole point is the accretion, the rapidfire mixing from one to the next. In this regard Marcus instrumental sets are more thrilling than Night Slug style sets, but of course the difference is that they're rifling through nearly twice as many songs and half the point is the interzones between tracks. So it's a very different vibe and a very different approach to track production.

To expand on the above, even the funky tracks embraced by global bass / "tropical" (is this just a label / club night or is it actually an emergent sub-genre name? I'm seeing it a lot...) DJs accord with the rest of funky in their construction - very functionalist tunes with, at most, an 8-bar variation. And on those kinds of DJ sets these tunes occupy the shortest amount of space in terms of the airtime alloted to them, effectively working as links between the more epic (non-funky) tracks in much the same way that, say, minimal DJs four or five years ago would use more stripped back straightahead techno (or house) "tools" as bridges between the more complex and deliberately epic tracks (I'm not decrying this BTW, it makes a lot of sense from a DJ perspective obv).

It means that the dynamic of these tracks in that context feels rather different to how they would sound in a usual funky set, and I think it also offers a handy guide to why particular funky tracks get really big... DVA, Roska, "Different Lekstrix", "Rass Out": quite apart from the fact that this stuff is more readily available than most funky tunes, whereas in a funky set these are basically all variations on "big carnival forward motion bangers" (and to the extent that they drift from this, as Roska and DVA can tend to, they become less popular), in the context of a global bass set these are more like plateaus of arrested counter-groove briefly spicing up the set with a sound that is, yes, kinetic, but also internally busted, like a non-starting engine flipping over ("Natty" being the most extreme and literal example of this).

Upthread I think we had a discussion of Roska in this regard, how his album probably underwhelms people because it's like that but with each track lasting for 7 minutes.

It's the same for any of these tunes really. "Different Lekstrix", which sounds amazing for three minutes esp. with MCs on top, starts to flag slightly over its full length (and it's only 5 minutes) as a standalone single.

But it sounds particularly different in the context of an MC-driven set, as do so many other tunes that might otherwise fit that global bass interregnum logic (say, Marcus and Bassboy's "Stamp" for example). The MC acts as a kind of guiding median line, a rope bridge crossing through the topographical extremes of the groove, which is why these tunes can feel like "forward motion bangers" even when, in many ways, they're nothing of the sort.

hey durr before you resign yourself to your abject fate maybe check the 22nd sept marcus set three people said was massive just before you made your query

it is all tribal bangers so ur unlikely to catch any horrid girl cooties off it

― r|t|c, Sunday, 3 October 2010 11:37 (Yesterday) Bookmark

I actually downloaded that a couple of days ago. Only managed to listen for 15 minutes or so. I always get turned off when someone MC's for a full mix like that. I want to hear the music, dammit. And FYI I don't mind this "girl cooties" you were talking about. I like "Do You Mind."

Okay I listened to the first half of that Marcus 22nd Sep mix on the way in, what's the tune about 22mins in with the squishy bell noise in the background? Also after about 35mins there's one with big tribal drums and buzzing noises that's just huge.

And FYI I don't mind this "girl cooties" you were talking about. I like "Do You Mind."

Durrr, everyone likes "Do You Mind", it's so ubiquitously adored that it doesn't really say anything about what you do or don't enjoy.

What's the tune about 22mins in with the squishy bell noise in the background?

The first half of 22 mins is a refix of "Gabryelle" which I assume you'd recognise. Then it becomes Funkystepz's marvelous "Fuller" which is what I think you're talking about.

Also after about 35mins there's one with big tribal drums and buzzing noises that's just huge.

35 minutes is Emvee's "Windrush Riddim" which I just adore. But I think you're talking about the track after that (from about 36 min) which is indeed massive but which I don't know.

Actually I think those numbers are a bit off, I'll have another listen.

the awesome one at 35 mins is mercurial myrmidon's 'hey bongo', from the new ep they were kind enough to put out for free:

http://thestayspun.com/2010/08/27/mercurial-myrmidon-the-warm-up-ep/

also contains 'pataptoon' which marcus listeners will be familiar with. (trust that website to stream the other two duff tracks instead eh?)

i hope people noticed rankin inexplicably saying "chimpanzee" in the background just before the drop on 'windrush' btw.

I keep clicking back on this thread to stare at this:

http://imgur.com/kGgVc.gif

from what movie is that?

who is this chick?

http://imgur.com/hG6BG.gif

ummm ... that movie is clueless, that chick is blair waldorf from gossip girl, and you are currently living under a rock somewhere on a planet called earth. try not to take it all in at once?

if anyone else has any questions regarding uk funky we strongly advise you to state whether you have seen clueless or not, and if so whether it's under or over a thousand times, in order to assist our assessment and help process your enquiry.

as we are extremely short staffed we may not get back to you immediately, but do please keep trying to reach us.

invite you dudes to check out my user profile for no particular reason and for a limited time only btw - just realised something important about myself

I am very pleased by your path of self-realisation.

Good on Ill Blu for coming up with a slightly new drum pattern for themselves, I hadn't noticed that about this tune in the mix.

my 'favorite movies' according to facebook include clueless and bubba ho-tep
imo more bubba ho-tep gifs needed

ummm ... that movie is clueless, that chick is blair waldorf from gossip girl, and you are currently living under a rock somewhere on a planet called earth. try not to take it all in at once?

― r|t|c, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 11:31 (9 hours ago) Bookmark

haha. actually i was thinking, "is this clueless?" well, it's been YEARS since i watched it.

i downloaded the first 2 episodes of gossip girl some time ago to check what the fuss was about. well i guess it's time to watch it. i hope she's as cute as in the gif.

love it when cooly g put "elle (ame remix)" on her mixes.

what funky shows are essential if I'm already listening to marcus/petchy/funkystepz on the regular? I'm trying to keep redundancy to a minimum so if everyone else is just playing the same stuff I'm not really that interested.

Ill Blu

Smoove Kriminal on 23 August 2010

yeah forgot about ill blu. i think i heard that smoove kriminal set, but does he play regularly?

>_<

Soul Jazz continue their travels through contemporary UK underground dance music ("Box Of Dub", "Steppers Delight", "Future Bass") with "Riddim Box" a new compilation of the most unique, left-field and innovative UK funky releases of the recent past mixing together grime, house, dubstep, dancehall and R&B to stunning effect. "Riddim Box" brings together some of the most innovative artists and creative UK producers with this stellar selection of twisted left-field tracks from celebrated names such as Shystie, Kode9, Crazy Cousins alongside exclusive cuts from LV, Grievous Angel and more.

With its roots in the UK Garage scene and emerging out of the union of dubstep and house, UK funky draws a line from the original sounds of jungle and drum and bass and dancehall through to the newer UK dance music variants such as grime, dubstep and 2-step.

TRACK LISTING
Disc 1

1. Altered Natives - Rass Out
2. MJ Cole - Volcano Riddim
3. Nb Funky - Riddim Box
4. Tubby T - Ready She Ready (Seiji Remix)
5. Sunship Featuring Warrior
6. Queen - Almighty Father (Solid Groove Remix)
7. Zumen Featuring Aaron Phiri
8. And Leafnuts - Rolexxx
9. Hard House Banton - Sirens
10. Ghosts On Tape - Predator Mode (Roska Remix)
11. Donae'o - African Warrior (Instrumental)

Disc 2

1. Stereotyp Versus Al Haca - Blaze 'N' Cook (Radioslave Remix)
2. Kode9 - Black Sun
3. Lil' Silva - Pulse Vs Flex
4. LV - Crossfire
5. Omar And Zed Bias - Dancing (Instrumental)
6. D Malice - Gabryelle (Refix)
7. Grievous Angel - Move Down
8. Low (Dubplate Mix)
9. DVA - Natty
10. Shystie - Pull It (Ill Blu Remix)
11. Crazy Cousinz - Attract

stick this on and let the rage pass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4fDi23fna0

also if i'm honest then a limp offering like rinse's i love funky is ultimately much more frustrating than whatever the tedious cunts at souljazz can come up with.

smoove krim does play fairly regularly btw - he updates here:
http://smoovekriminal.podomatic.com/

and dj weeksey is similarly worthwhile though podcasts are seldom lately:
http://djweeksey.podomatic.com/entry/2010-10-02T20_08_14-07_00

pioneer on kiss can be okay for the odd track id now and then, meh altogether though:
http://djs.totalkiss.com/2010/10/tracklisting-081010/

wash your hands after visiting but the dj naughty guest mix here is good stuff once it gets going.

mad one's brill 'nanny pest' is worth the entry fee alone - like a cross between 'house girls' and murdz86's 'dem rasta ways dere', but even better.