I feel Hyunah's "Change" live routine is Electrik Red's "We Fuck You" as interprative dance. Either way it's one of the best live performances of the year.
― abcfsk, Saturday, 2 October 2010 00:09 (5 years ago) Permalink
Video makes it even more... direct.
― abcfsk, Saturday, 2 October 2010 00:13 (5 years ago) Permalink
― abcfsk, Friday, 8 October 2010 09:09 (5 years ago) Permalink
K-pop history: In 1992 "Seo Taiji Boys" debuted and changed the industry in every conceivable way. In this clip they perform on a talent show and are promptly given two thumbs down by a stern jury:
... but this is the template, the blueprint, through which k-pop as a sound and identity was created. You hear it today, not only in hip hop groups, not only in male groups, but from more or less all artists on the chart. Taiji is to many The icon or the founding father of Korean pop. (One of the other three members is Yang Hyun Suk, the current chief of YG Entertainment where Big Bang, Se7en and 2NE1 are signed.)
The group's explosive popularity upended censorship laws and norms both on and off scene. Their blend of dance pop and hip hop is why even most cutesy girl groups today have a dedicated rapper. Even stately ballads have rap parts! Electro-club-hip-hop still dominates among both girl and boy groups.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 14 October 2010 20:09 (5 years ago) Permalink
any speculation on why their use of metal didn't carry over to the rest of the genre?
also does anyone have more info on the anti-beef imports DBSK beef? (I saw it mentioned in businessweek of all places)
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 14 October 2010 20:18 (5 years ago) Permalink
I don't know why, exactly, but plenty of other 'noisy' elements seem to have replaced it.
The beef details escape me, but you should know that DBSK's fan club ('Cassies') is the craziest and most zealous fan club among countless crazy and zealous k-pop fan clubs. Those girls are dangerous, and to get what they want they organize and demand it. The group members themselves had nothing to do with, it was a case of angry forum discussion among the club members leading to organized protests. And Koreans are very defensive about their beef.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 14 October 2010 21:22 (5 years ago) Permalink
the only reference i saw online had some group member being poisoned with krazy glue slipped into their drink.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 14 October 2010 21:28 (5 years ago) Permalink
Oh yes, an anti-fan of DBSK's Yunho, a schoolgirl, gave him a glue-poisoned drink. He ended up in hospital, it was bad. He decided to not press charges because she was the same age as his sister. The fans were less forgiving--- "yunho oppa, i will poison and kill that fucking ugly girl that poisoned you. she must rot and die in hell" reads one Youtube comment. It's probably the most severe case of k-pop antis acting out on their fucked up ideas, although sending a blood-stained letter to SNSD's Yoona doescome close.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 14 October 2010 21:44 (5 years ago) Permalink
this was all over a beef protest the group had nothing to do with? what happens when a group does get politically active?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 14 October 2010 21:58 (5 years ago) Permalink
No, that had nothing to do with the beef thing. The beef thing did not create any backlash against the group. This is the note the homicidal hater delivered along with the poison:
To, Jung Yunho
You watch your mouth!! Ever since the debut you were so stuck up. You won't last after a couple years... You would be forever seen as some teen idol, not a real singer. Do you know your limit? Only little kids like you!... I really want to kill you.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 14 October 2010 22:17 (5 years ago) Permalink
PSY signs with YG and gets a bigger sound.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 21 October 2010 10:08 (5 years ago) Permalink
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 05:49 (5 years ago) Permalink
Catchy, autotune-free, interesting chorus. Music video tomorrow.----
Will.I.Am must've gotten inspired working with 2NE1. His new video with Nicki Minaj is Koreanified up the wazoo. http://community.livejournal.com/omonatheydidnt/4907406.html
Maybe Korean is the new Japanese in terms of pop culture adaptation ala Gwen Stefani's "let's put some japanese girls up in here".
― abcfsk, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 08:12 (5 years ago) Permalink
On today's charts SNSD is #1 in Japan with Gee and #1 in Korea with Hoot. Historical feat in many ways!
― abcfsk, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 10:05 (5 years ago) Permalink
SNSD 'Hoot' video
― abcfsk, Thursday, 28 October 2010 10:27 (5 years ago) Permalink
Now for something completely different
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:26 (5 years ago) Permalink
This tune's got a pretty great one minute long climax at the end
― abcfsk, Sunday, 7 November 2010 22:23 (5 years ago) Permalink
the first k-pop song I've really liked in weeeks! love the soaring chorus.
however, this group seems to be composed of the can't dance rejects from the higher echelons.
― whiney trollins vs. hipsters (dayo), Monday, 8 November 2010 00:25 (5 years ago) Permalink
those guitars in the chorus are a good look
― whiney trollins vs. hipsters (dayo), Monday, 8 November 2010 00:30 (5 years ago) Permalink
I love the style switchups - starts out with club banger synths, then transitions into an anthemic 'go away' type song
― whiney trollins vs. hipsters (dayo), Monday, 8 November 2010 03:44 (5 years ago) Permalink
Yes. And I like a good balls-out break-less ending.
The new KARA is a pure crowd-pleaser, which is the path they should go down as a fairly nondescript group.
― abcfsk, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 16:47 (5 years ago) Permalink
Let's try that again
― abcfsk, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 17:22 (5 years ago) Permalink
I seriously cannot stop listening to the nothing lasts forever song. so exuberant! I wish the music video matched the sense of melancholy present in the song, but it's about partying.
― dayo, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:57 (5 years ago) Permalink
It is pretty great, and such a huge surprise/turnaround since the group debuted earlier this year with shit no-one cared about. You can always watch the live performances -- they sing well, and do a weird splits sequence, even if the dance is otherwise amateurish.
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:02 (5 years ago) Permalink
oh lord at the splits sequence
disappointed they didn't strap on guitars midway through!
― dayo, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:21 (5 years ago) Permalink
Liking this Gummy - There Is No Love (live)
― abcfsk, Monday, 15 November 2010 10:23 (5 years ago) Permalink
An absolute smash hit from 2NE1. Supposedly a song made for Yamaha as a commercial soundtrack thing, but I hope this gets the proper treatment.
― abcfsk, Friday, 26 November 2010 11:38 (5 years ago) Permalink
― abcfsk, Thursday, 2 December 2010 12:18 (5 years ago) Permalink
have to wonder, is this current phase of k-pop running out of steam?
― .\ /. (dayo), Thursday, 2 December 2010 12:33 (5 years ago) Permalink
^ you say that after that BANGER?
Well yeah, 2009 was a peak year and set so many milestones that 2010 has ended up as a "well, shall we try to do that again?" year. A very attentive global WWW audience has worked with the same zealous force as Bieber fans in pushing videos to the 'most viewed' section of Youtube and artists to Twitter TT, and we've seen a successful move into Japan and a potentially lucrative future. But the music has felt less eventful than the stories. Meanwhile, those who have actually taken different paths have silently found a bigger success -- group member gone solo Ga-In, who was cheeky enough to take some control herself and put out a record with an oddly fully-fledged tango pop sound, did a lot better than her company expected and reached #1. Secret went the Rich Harrison-route, a sound no one else is doing in k-pop now, and took off, despite a low-key media presence. Countless new rookie groups who have copied others with a lot of attention given to them, meanwhile, have failed sales-wise. That should be a wake-up call.
Prospects: Big Bang is coming back, partly this december and fully in February. They're increasingly self-made, songwriting and producing much of the material themselves now and with the rest of the YG artists represent a more feel-good view of the k-pop industry. Koreas (potential) Taylor Swift (credit: me) IU is coming back in a WEEK and I have no idea what it will sound like, but if it isn't guitar-driven and if she hasn't been given a chance at songwriting herself (obviously something she can do as per her cover arrangements) I might give up on the industry. God knows she's got the potential to single-handedly change it and inspire a flood of self-made girls/ labels giving them a chance, because every little 'featuring' she's had on a song this year has made it reach #1. She's definitely one of the most valuable assets for the industry.
I think that's where it needs to go: Stronger personalities and characters, not another girl group made of long-legged models with 10 members who don't even have the dance/vocal skills we always knew we'd get in k-pop (*cough* Nine Muses) - and I do love k-pop girl groups. But there's a reason the buyers prefer 2NE1, or Taeyang, or this year's "Korean Idol" winners. And I do think it's where they will go, because the industry's turnaround rate is pretty impressive. It's only a few years ago when girl groups were all out of fashion.
My personal best of 2010 list soon.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 2 December 2010 14:12 (5 years ago) Permalink
yeah, the asian penchant for copying things to death is well known. I'm excited for IU - I only have that one song she did with 2AM, but it's fabulous. one of my students was really excited about her because of the reasons you mentioned.
― .\ /. (dayo), Thursday, 2 December 2010 14:22 (5 years ago) Permalink
And this gorgeous duet she did with the mellowest voice in Korea. His is the sound of cream poured over strawberries.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 2 December 2010 14:45 (5 years ago) Permalink
is there any kind of NK-pop scene? (state sponsored or otherwise)the last article i read about refugees only had a snippet about a kind of tacitly approved black market in chinese pop stars for DPRK ex-pats.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:58 (5 years ago) Permalink
BBC radio DJ Andy Kershaw noted, on a visit to North Korea, that the only recordings available were by the pop singers Jon Hye-yong, Kim Kwang-suk, Jo Kum-hwa and Ri Pun-hui, and the groups Wangjaesan Light Music Band, the Mansudae Art Troupe and the Pochonbo Electronic Ensemble, who play in a style Kershaw refers to as "light instrumental with popular vocal". There is also the State Symphony Orchestra, the Sea of Blood Opera Company, two choruses, an orchestra and an ensemble dedicated to Isang Yun's compositions, all in Pyongyang. The Pyongyang Film Studios also produces many instrumental songs for its films.
Some of this was featured in the Pop World Cup.
― abcfsk, Monday, 6 December 2010 20:41 (5 years ago) Permalink
I'd also like to offer up to other tracks from her new mini-album-Guitar-looped RnB...love her vocals: Folk-ish, beautiful mild melody
― abcfsk, Thursday, 9 December 2010 09:41 (5 years ago) Permalink
I tried to put those as urls instead of embeds, guess that didn't work.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 9 December 2010 09:42 (5 years ago) Permalink
and you say she writes all her songs herself? I have a new crush
p.s. does anybody else read this thread besides me and philip nunez?
― the nagl is the nagl (dayo), Thursday, 9 December 2010 12:44 (5 years ago) Permalink
aaaaaand she's 17, so I don't have a new crush
I didn't say that, unfortunately, I said I hope she will be composing soon because her guitar cover arrangements that she has arranged herself shows she's got the touch, and she's expressed in interviews she wishes to eventually take full control. She did write some lyrics on this album though, and has associated herself with the right people.
Not sure if anyone reads it.. no one replies, anyway! Frank's doing a fair bit of k-pop posting on his livejournal, though.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 9 December 2010 12:53 (5 years ago) Permalink
On that note, hello everybody, I've decided to jump in on this thread! I run, for lack of better description, a conscious K-pop blog called My First Love Story and was referred here a while back by Frank Kogan. Interestingly I am also a friend of the person who repped Korea Republic in this year's Pop World Cup, but that's neither here nor there. (For the record, he didn't take many of my suggestions!)
I'm here to post this because it's amazing: "High High", from an upcoming side project of two members of Big Bang, G-Dragon and T.O.P. It seems G-Dragon had a hand in a lot of the songwriting/production for this album, which is a level of control/authorship that is quite rare in K-pop.
― descriptivist, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 04:07 (5 years ago) Permalink
It also seems like this has been talked about in relation to Big Bang/G-Dragon before. Oops. That's what I get for tl;dr-ing.
― descriptivist, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 04:20 (5 years ago) Permalink
nice to have you posting! your blog looks pretty great
― dayo, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 04:31 (5 years ago) Permalink
Thanks! I'm looking forward to the discussion here (such as it is).
Here's the video for "High High" featuring cameos from the other members of Big Bang and Teddy Park (a producer with YG Entertainment). There might be others (I'd be shocked if Yang Goon himself wasn't in it) but it's a bit like playing Where's Waldo.
― descriptivist, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 12:42 (5 years ago) Permalink
Welcome! High High sounds a bit 'Like a G6'-ish, doesn't it? A few listens in and I'm pretty hooked. I'm going to admit I hope the Big Bang album does not sound like this, but it's a great way to launch a side project. Here's the song they did with Park Bom, and she's the best thing about it. Are they shooting an MV for that as well?
The folks at The Singles Jukebox are going through 'lost and found' singles of the year and here's their take on After School's Bang!. A lot of them like it - let's hope they decide to visit this thread.
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 15:35 (5 years ago) Permalink
hah, even the video to how high is kind of simialr to the video to like a g6
― dayo, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 15:51 (5 years ago) Permalink
bang! sounds underproduced. it needs to sound more massive than it is
― dayo, Thursday, 16 December 2010 01:33 (5 years ago) Permalink
Ga-In solo remains one of the best surprises of the k-pop year, now with another single
― abcfsk, Monday, 20 December 2010 16:27 (5 years ago) Permalink
Retracing the k-pop hits of 2010 I've discovered that it has actually been a fantastic year for singles. I think I could've kept going with this list.
Best of 2010
1. 2NE1 - Try To Follow Me2. E.Via - Shake!3. After School - Bang!4. IU - Good Day5. GD&TOP - Knock Out 6. 2NE1 - Clap Your Hands7. SNSD - Oh!8. f(x) - NU ABO9. Girl's Day - Nothing Lasts Forever10. Hyunah - Change11. GD&TOP - High High12. Ga-In - Irreversible13. SNSD - Run Devil Run14. SISTAR - Fake Girl15. Lee Hyori - Swing16. Infinite - She's Back17. Taeyang - I Need A Girl18. 4MINUTE - Huh19. KARA - Jumping 20. KARA - Lupin
Sung Shi Kyung & IU - It's You2NE1 - Go AwayGummy - As a ManBoA - Woo WeekendBoA - PossibilityJJ - Come CloserYDG ft. Fresh Boyz - 탄띠 (Bandolier)Rainbow - ASISTAR - How Dare YouSuper Junior - BonamanaSuper Junior - No Other SNSD - Hoot VNT - Ye Ye YeLady Jane ft Verbal Jint - Love You Everyday T-ara - YaYaYaASecret - MadonnaNine Muses - No PlayboyInfinite - Come Back AgainShinee - LuciferSeo In Young - Into the Rhythm Taeyeon - Like a StarA
1. GD&TOP - GD&TOP Vol. 1 1. 2NE1 - To Anyone 3. Taeyang - Solar 4. BoA - Hurricane Venus 5. Ga-In - Step 2/4
― abcfsk, Sunday, 26 December 2010 15:13 (5 years ago) Permalink
for some reason I forgot Miss A, who def had one of my favorite singles
― abcfsk, Sunday, 26 December 2010 15:56 (5 years ago) Permalink
Ok, so the MBC Gayo Daejun (year-end show for MBC) killed most any k-pop spectacle I've previously had the pleasure of watching, in terms of general smoothness of presentation and novelty of performances.
After School introducing a new guitar-wielding (and guitar-majoring, music academy-graduating) member in the oddest, greatest stunt of k-pop 2010. A few questions to ponder: When will expert electric guitar talent ever come in handy as a girl group member? If they do make use of it, how can it not be the greatest thing ever to have her break into ridiculous solos for all future middle eights?
Rainbow with the greatest remix of the night, a new 'A' version. Takes on a bass-heavy, dirtier quality.
Fairly badass BoA tribute.
GD&TOP feat. 2NE1
IU and Luna (of f(x)) (and Onew of Shinee) joining two slightly dull indie rock bands... with a pretty great result?
Run Devil Run really is the best of last year's SNSD singles when it comes to live performances.
INFINITE showing supreme dancing skills. Look at that synch!
Davichi w/ Sunset Glow cover
2PM, Miss A and particularly Fei doing some sweet moves.
― abcfsk, Saturday, 1 January 2011 16:35 (5 years ago) Permalink