TS: Mo Tucker vs. Ringo Starr

it's the beginning of a newt age

What goes on in your mind (Mo)?

Oh, Sweet Nutbag

weird. how did Mo end up in Albany, GA? I lived there for about four years when i was in elementary/ jr high

also, it's one thing to dislike how our govt spends (wastes) tax dollars, but getting in bed w/ Newt & FreedomWorks?? how's about "fuck you"? if you don't know by now that these guys only care about "less" govt for corporations and the extremely wealthy, then srsly, fuck you. sorry, that goes for you, too, Mom, Dad, Grandpa, etc.

It's going to be awkward in a some years when Georgia Hubley calls the liberal president a Communist, and I have to explain to Beeps that she was in fact cool at one time.

hah. hey, you're back.

tea party kicked me out.

Liberal media getting more conservative as it gets older

(Am I really the first?)

Palin Blue Eyes

Lisa Murkowski Says

White Light/White People

Lady Godiva's Operation Something Something Socialized Medicine

so that's why they played a lot at the Boston Tea Party

yes - they did it to stem the red tide of communism

she worked at wal-mart? i assumed she was living on fat royalties, lighting virginia slims 120s with burning five dollar bills.

daniel love you man but I am just continually shocked by how people think this vague quality called "royalties" is really enough to sustain anybody except the top .001 of performers at anything above the bare-subsistence level

they only sold 1000 record iirc

1000 records

They don't get to collect royalties from the 1000 bands that they spawned?

those bands never sold any records

the actual quote has been corrupted over the years - originally it was not a lot of people bought the first velvets album, but everyone who did was suggest-banned

lol

I actually had the same train of thought w/r/t mo tucker and royalties and wal-mart today, just when trying to figure out how the hell mo tucker becomes a republican

I'm pretty sure the only VU payday Moe got was after the '93 reunion show. In one of my Velvet books, she reveals to the interviewer that she and Sterl ceded their "points" for $600 or $800 each in the seventies. "Worst mistake I ever made," she said.

Wait, why would being a working-class senior make someone an economic conservative?

welcome to america

i interviewed moe about 9 or 10 years ago and she was bitter as hell about wal-mart -- hated it, but it was the only place in town to work, and also the only place to shop, like in a lot of small towns. at the time it scanned as aging-beatnik anti-corporate stuff, but i think really she was just pissed off that she's had a hard life. the tea party thing makes sense in that light.

life is sad

she's Beginning To See The Light

nah j/k this has made me a sad panda.

daniel love you man but I am just continually shocked by how people think this vague quality called "royalties" is really enough to sustain anybody except the top .001 of performers at anything above the bare-subsistence level

― aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, October 2, 2010 9:06 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i literally got an ASCAP royalty statement for one penny.

http://www.starpulse.com/news/media/wiseguy.jpg

let the good times roll

To be fair: some people work very hard, awwww, but they never move to the right.

that's because your "old people get more conservative" thing is as I say something young cats like to think that isn't really true

This gets complicated when you discuss social issues. If the general trend is for society to move towards the left and your opinions don't change at all over the years, you're still going to be characterized as "moving towards the right," by people e.g. In the last thirty years if someone says "marriage is between a man and a woman" the left-wing reaction to that will have changed from "duh!" to "ugh..."

So if people's opinions don't get more left-wing as they age they are, potentially, "getting more conservative"

tbh I have more sympathy (albeit marginal) with Moe's purported rightwards shift than Lou's crackpot shit on New York.

if -- as i assume -- lou reed is the person to whom tucker "ceded" her interest in VU for, what, $600.00, i have no sympathy for him.

IT WAS YULE

glad to see soto adding purported, lotta assumptions being made here and elsewhere

okay, fair enough; looks like i made a hasty assumption.

i have no idea if it was actually yule

it was Stan Polley

That soulless bastard.

IT WAS YULE

― balls, Saturday, October 2, 2010 11:22 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Naw, he had his hands full working at the printing company that did the cover for Springsteen's Darkness On The Edge Of Town
http://www.thelightindarkness.com/wingate/
(scroll about halfway down)

lou he is a wanker and mo she is a clllerk

this just seems sad

i remember reading before about how little money she got from vu and surrendering royalties was unfortunate if true

they should have done some more shows anyway

Flying. Blue Jay Way. The entire first Plastic Ono Band (the Yoko one) LP. Ringo could drone the fuck out and drop the chill beats when he wanted to.

daniel love you man but I am just continually shocked by how people think this vague quality called "royalties" is really enough to sustain anybody except the top .001 of performers at anything above the bare-subsistence level

yeah. the world has f--d up priorities. i'm not a marnie stern fan, but this passage -- quoted in a dusted review this morning -- left an impression on me:

Not that Stern wouldn’t if she could. In an interview from a few weeks ago, she was asked about selling her songs for sponsorship, to which she replied:

Oh, fuck yeah, I’ll sell, I am so poor. Plus I never understood that thing because anything I put out I’m really proud that I did it, so I’ll put it anywhere, anywhere. Like, here it is, I made it! I’m real proud. I don’t feel embarrassed. But, if I was making money off the record, if I had more choices. But considering that I’m so in debt all the time . . .

If we've made any progress as a civilization, it's foregoing this "purity" about songwriting intentions.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2486/3812795249_8ef3d60020.jpg

http://www.nme.com/blog/index.php?blog=146&p=9192&title=does_it_matter_if_moe_tucker_s_right_win&more=1&c=1

It’s so strange – authors are given the privilege of detaching from their work. When you read American Psycho, you don’t believe that Bret Easton Ellis could be capable of such stomach-turning acts of rape and murder. So likewise, surely if musicians sympathise with certain aspects of right-wing politics, we should surely afford them that same separation of personality and art.

qed

dude [Visitor] //October 5 2010 at 16:44
so do you listen to skrewdriver?

Laura Snapes [Member] //October 5 2010 at 16:47
@dude
Nope, they're a neo-Nazi hate rock band whose lead singer is one of the most notorious white supremacists going.

lead singer not doing all that much "going" these days iirc