ILX 70s album poll - results

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This was probably addressed on one of the other threads ... but I heard "Two Out of Three Ain't Bad" on the radio today ... HOW COULD "BAT OUT OF HELL" NOT HAVE BEEN NOMINATED?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

My Aim Is True is a great record that took me a long time to get into. In fact, it's one of my favourites, despite the pub-rock backing group. I always thought they were the perfect band for the 50s Punk Buddy Holly thing he was being marketed as at the time. The lyrics are great, too: "now that your picture's in the paper / being rhythmically admired"? Brilliance.

-- Dave M. (pton_mwaa...), May 23rd, 2001.

I'll take Trust or The Juliet Letters over My Aim Is True any day.

-- Clyde (clyd...), August 27th, 2002.


hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link

59

points: 299
1st place votes: 1
total votes 12

MILES DAVIS - BITCHES BREW

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I think bitches brew is a pinnacle of all music

-- Josh (kortbei...), August 29th, 2002.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link

58

points: 300
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 9

BOB DYLAN AND THE BAND - THE BASEMENT TAPES

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Right, I'm stopping there because there's a discrepancy between this computer and my home computer as to the next album. I'd hate to post anything inaccurate on this thread..

More either later or tomorrow. Probably tomorrow.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link

SUCH SUSPENSE!

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I've been listening to the Dylan/Band basement tapes recently, and it's just quality "rock," loose and fun... I don't really listen to lyrics anyway.

-- andy (and...), February 17th, 2004

my very favorite Dylan album (Blonde on Blonde being a very close 2nd).

-- Jazzbo (jmcga...), January 3rd, 2005

I think the arrangements on Basement Tapes exhibit a restlessness, and the positive pressures that talented musicians exert on each other.

-- Amateurist (amateuris...), March 19th, 2003

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link

So far:

100. VA - Nuggets
99. New York Dolls - s/t
98. David Bowie - Heroes
97. Kate Bush - The Kick Inside
96. Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On the Edge of Town
95. The Cure - Three Imaginary Boys
94. Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown
93. Philip Glass - Einstein on the Beach
92. Sparks - Kimono My House
91. Cheap Trick - Live at Budokan
90. Steely Dan - Countdown to Ecstacy
89. Sparks - No. 1 in Heaven
88. Can - Future Days
87. The B52s - The B52s
86. Parliament - Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome
85. Leonard Cohen - Songs of Love and Hate
84. Iggy and the Stooges - Raw Power
83. The Slits - Cut
82. Nick Drake - Bryter Layter
81. The Beach Boys - Surf's Up
80. Neu! - Neu!
79. The Beatles - Let It Be
78. John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band
77. Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
76. Big Star - Third
75. John Cale - Paris 1919
74. Donna Summer - On the Radio
73. Miles Davis - A Tribute to Jack Johnson
72. Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On
71. Parliament - The Mothership Connection
70. Brian Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy)
69. VA - Saturday Night Fever
68. Wire - Chairs Missing
67. Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy
66. Led Zeppelin - IV
65. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
64. Big Star - #1 Record
63. Black Sabbath - Paranoid
62. David Bowie - Station to Station
61. Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps
60. Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True
59. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
58. Bob Dylan - The Basement Tapes

whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Oops, I meant 154 for #68.

I guess this is probably all we'll see for Zeppelin, P-Funk, Miles (unless In a Silent Way is more popular than Bitches Brew), possibly some others. Will there be any more compilations on the list (the Harder They Come, hopefully). I'm guessing vote-splitting really hurt Neu and probably Steely Dan as well.

Any guesses for #1? Funhouse is probably not universally loved enough, though I wouldn't be surprised if it got the most #1 votes. Exile, possibly, or maybe a dark horse like Parallel Lines.

whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link

for no good reason, let's compare with the equivalent PFM poll results:

58 A Tribute to Jack Johnson Miles Davis
59 Rocket to Russia The Ramones
60 Plastic Ono Band John Lennon
61 Surf's Up Beach Boys
62 The Cars The Cars
63 Zuckerzeit Cluster
64 Lust for Life Iggy Pop
65 On The Beach Neil Young
66 Third/Sister Lovers Big Star
67 Meddle Pink Floyd
68 Head Hunters Herbie Hancock
69 IV Faust
70 Dark Side Of The Moon Pink Floyd
71 The Payback James Brown
72 Red King Crimson
73 Van Halen Van Halen
74 Songs of Love and Hate Leonard Cohen
75 Houses Of The Holy Led Zeppelin
76 Parallel Lines Blondie
77 Aladdin Sane David Bowie
78 Expensive Shit Anikulapo Kuti & Africa '70
79 Sail Away Randy Newman
80 Hunky Dory David Bowie
81 The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust David Bowie
82 All Things Must Pass George Harrison
83 Raw Power Iggy & The Stooges
84 Nilsson Schmilsson Nilsson
85 154 Wire
86 Blue Joni Mitchell
87 For Your Pleasure Roxy Music
88 From Here to Eternity Giorgio Moroder
89 Q: Are We Not Men? A: We are Devo! Devo
90 Zombie Fela Anikulapo Kuti
91 20 Jazz Funk Greats Throbbing Gristle
92 The Man-Machine Kraftwerk
93 Band of Gypsys Jimi Hendrix
94 Starless and Bible Black King Crimson
95 Physical Graffiti Led Zeppelin
96 The Idiot Iggy Pop
97 The Harder They Come Various Artists
98 Rock Bottom Robert Wyatt
99 After The Goldrush Neil Young
100 Before and After Science Brian Eno

i think i slightly prefer the ILM results, but there's not a lot in it.

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I deliberately didn't vote for Basement Tapes since I thought it should be considered a '60s album.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

no vote-splitting for joy div. if unknown pleasures is not in the top 3 i will lose all my faith in you folks. please don't let the sex pistols finish in front of joy div.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

It's pretty impossible to compare two lists until you have the full versions of both. Things you like might not be there because they're higher up, or because they're not there at all.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Miles is gettin the shaft in this list.

jmeister (jmeister), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I wouldn't be surprised if On the Corner turns up later, no? (And not because I voted for it. I don't like Miles.)

RS, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess this is probably all we'll see for Zeppelin, P-Funk, Miles (unless In a Silent Way is more popular than Bitches Brew)

In a Silent Way is from is from the late 60s (and there seems to be barrels on uncertainty about Bitches Brew should be considered 60s or 70s. It was recorded in late 60s, though).

On the Corner could show up. That album has a lot of hardcore zealots.

For #1, it will probably be London Calling, right? Who knows. This list is GREAT so far. My amazon cart is getting crunk.

I'll eat crow if the Sex Pistols beat either Clash record, Joy Division, Buzzcocks or Television.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Oops, I meant 154 for #68.

Don't worry. Its an easy mistake to make. Anyone could have done it.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Joy Division number 1, not a victim of vote splitting like Bowie/Roxy etc

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link

57

points: 310
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 13

THE CONGOS - HEART OF THE CONGOS

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link

the best reggae album ever is "The Heart of the Congos"

-- cybele (maria...), October 31st, 2001.

Congos---Lee Perry at his best; Jamaican vocal technique at its best...need I say more?

-- oops (buttch9...), February 21st, 2003.

gotta say i think heart of the congos is a little overrated. bought it based upon the number of mentions on this thread [NOT THIS ACTUAL THREAD BUT YOU KNEW THAT DIDN'T YOU???], and was surprised at its blandness. granted, i've only listened to it twice now, but i already want to skip both congoman and especially fisherman..doesnt hold a candle to Cumbolo(culture)-musically, perhaps the most solid reggae record i've heard thats not a Lperry vehicle

-- thomas de'aguirre (knuckleru...), March 14th, 2003.

This is probably one of my five favorite albums of all time.-- Bofus (bofus...), November 8th, 2001.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link

56

points: 310
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 12

FLEETWOOD MAC - RUMOURS

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Almost half of my album votes went to jazz records, but I'd be surprised to see any jazz besides Miles in the top 100. As much as like him, I hate that he always gets to be the token. People should listen to, for example, the LPs Herbie Hancock did in the early seventies with his pre-Headhunters septet, they're equally adventurous and groovy as Miles' records of the time are.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

More praise for The Heart of the Congos:


Lee Perry's finest hour? JA '77; vocal group, COMPLETELY URGENT AND KEY RECORD - get the 2CD redux version on Blood & Fire, which I think is still available. Deeply spiritual and avant-garde at the same time.

-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), March 5th, 2003


it sounds like what Brian Wilson would do if he made a roots reggae album.

-- dog latin (doglati...), February 21st, 2003 .


having The Heart Of The Congos as sole reggae album is def pref to The Best of Bob Marley, which is the usual token reggae album.

-- m jemmeson (mjemmeso...), August 21st, 2001.


honestly Heart of the Congos sounds better than just about any Marley I've ever heard.

-- Josh Love (heaveninrowboat...), July 29th, 2004.


one of the best albums ever made, any genre

-- james edwards (jame...), July 20th, 2001

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

having The Heart Of The Congos as sole reggae album is def pref to The Best of Bob Marley, which is the usual token reggae album.

Absolutely, if you must have only one reggae album, this is the one. Just sublime.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread is beautiful.

57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link

LPs Herbie Hancock did in the early seventies with his pre-Headhunters septet

Headhunters wasn't nominated...would have been my #2.

Keith C (kcraw916), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Thye classic thing about Rumours is not just the songs, which are good, but the gut-wrenching, awful, almost horrifying sound of bile spewing out of a severed duct at the end of a relationship. It's one of the bitterest albums ever, and therefore one of the greatest break-up albums, if not the breakup album.

It also works as kind of a moral lesson about the excess. When you're in a rock band, and you get so coked up every night that you start to think that fucking your band members is a good idea, even when they're married to other band members, these are the feelings you end up with.

Classic. Very.

-- Kenan Hebert (mondria...), March 21st, 2003.


Not often emphasized is how deserved its gargantuan success was. "Rumours" is the summit of pop music.

I've been listening to "Mirage" lately and am reminded of how a great band -- Christine's harmonies, the McVie/Fleetwood rhythm section, say, working in tandem -- can give the frothiest of confections unexpected and even subversive undertones ("Book of Love," "Can't Go Back," "Eyes of the World").

-- Alfred Soto (sotoal...), April 11th, 2005.

I was scared and fascinated by the dirty wife-swapping aura surrounding Fleetwood Mac when I was a kid. It made me think my parents were closet swinger perverts when I saw the cover of "Rumours", and even more so the insert photos, in their collection. Just when I had gotten over realizing they were closet drug addicts after finding that Doobie Brothers record with the giant roach photo on the inner sleeve.

-- fritz (fritzwollner5...), November 9th, 2001.

RUMOURS IS THE GREATEST LP EVER RELEASED. FLEETWOOD MAC IS THE GREATEST BAND IN THE WHOLE WORLD!!! STOP DISSING ON THEM!!!!
NIKAYLA~

-- Nikayla Crews (frozenlove197...), April 20th, 2004.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Headhunters wasn't nominated...would have been my #2.

Well, I did nominate Sextant, and it was my #1.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link

55

points: 320
1st place votes: 2
total votes: 7

ORNETTE COLEMAN - DANCING IN YOUR HEAD

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Ornette Coleman - Dancing In Your Head

i) It's like minimalism without the rigidity, improv without
incoherence.

ii) It's like music as an environment, conceived as a space wherein
everyone can
'do his own thing' while still feeding the group. Individuality and
cohesiveness are not only not opposed but are mutually defining and
sustaining.

iii) It's like a super-advanced polyphony - the lines are so
independent that
they're improvised and they still make sense as part of a whole.

iv) It's just the best bass record there is.

v) It's a multilayered groove and a catchy riff.

vi) You can dance to it.

---- Sundar

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha, prove me wrong!

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.gustavholmberg.com/tomrum/archives/withnail01.jpg

I must have some PROG! I demand to have some PROG!

Keith C (kcraw916), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago) link

55

points: 321
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 12

RICHARD AN LINDA THOMPSON - I WANT TO SEE THE BRIGHT LIGHTS TONIGHT

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Richard And Linda Thompson - I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight

That Richard Thompson remains a relatively obscure figure in the
annals of popular music is an injustice that has yet to be corrected.
Sure, among music fans his name is known and respected, but try
dropping his name outside of ILM or your local record store. "Richard
Who?" is the inevitable refrain. "I Want To See The Bright Lights
Tonight" is Thompson's tour-de-force, consisting of his best set of
songs, all wrapped in an almost ridiculous, painful sorrow. While
tracks like "Withered and Died" and "End of the Rainbow" couldn't be
more stark and depressing, the gravity of the lyrics is countervailed
by a buoyancy that pervades the music, giving it life and beauty.
It's possible the darkness and pessimism of Thompson's music is what
puts people off, but to me that'll always be a mystery. Tragically,
"I Want To See the Bright Lights Tonight" remains out of print in the
U.S.

------------Keith C

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link

ahem.. 54, that one, not 55...

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I dunno about London Calling; isn't there a faction here that hates the Clash in a way that there isn't for, I dunno, Bowie or someone? What was number one in the PFM list, Low?

whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link

53

points: 330
1st place votes: 2
total votes: 11

DAVID BOWIE - HUNKY DORY

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David Bowie – Hunky Dory
“Time may change me” sang David Bowie on the cabaret-styled opener to Hunky Dory. But as the album was coming on the heels of his heavy glam rock album The Man Who Sold The World, who could have expected that time would change him so quickly? Bowie exchanged electric guitars with pianos and acoustic guitars, focused even more on his story-telling, and in the end, put out one of his greatest collections of songs he would ever make. Just focusing on the lyrics, Bowie can be found spinning tales about self-proclaimed crazy people (“Kooks”), homosexual desires (“Oh! You Pretty Things”) and giving a Bowie's-eye view of celebrities in “Andy Warhol” and “Song For Bob Dylan.” Bowie even created the greatest Generation X chorus on “Quicksand,” though the song pre-dates that demographic by a couple of decades. Bowie lets loose on “Queen Bitch,” modeled after The Velvet Underground (though it outperforms many of their classics). And hidden among the greatness is the brilliant “Life On Mars,” with its nonsensical yet somehow universal lyrics that speak volumes, and gorgeous orchestrations that swell to orgasmic heights at the song’s close. Hunky Dory’s strengths also come from the little things Bowie added, such as the quaalude-enhanced opening of “Andy Warhol,” the ringing phone at the end of “Life On Mars” (wherein Bowie gives a thumbs-up to that take), and the chanting trolls that close out “The Bewlay Brothers” (okay, maybe the trolls are a figment of my imagination, but after the cavemen line in ‘Life on Mars,” I’m allowed to dream, right?). David Bowie went on to make some of the greatest albums of the 1970s, but for me, he never topped Hunky Dory.


-------------Jonathan Hale

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I forgot to vote in this poll.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link

52

points: 337
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 8

THE FALL - DRAGNET

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link

51

points: 337
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 10

NEIL YOUNG - TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link

In the unlikely event that anyone has wondered:

Fleetwood Mac go above The Congos because their highest placing was 2nd, compared to 5th. Neil Young and The Fall both had 2nd places, so the total number of votes decides the placing.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:08 (nineteen years ago) link

...and I'm struggling to find anything to quote about either of the last two albums, so on with the next one, and then the rest tomorrow.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link


(in answer to best Fall album for starters):


Dragnet. No contest.

-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), October 14th, 2002.

The true heart of the mighty Fall beats in the gnarled, beer n' woodbines sound of Dragnet and the early singles.

-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), February 12th, 2002.


The lowest of lo-fi and absolutely fantastic! Intense, spooky garage fun, AND has some rarely mentioned Fall classic tracks. The best Fall album IMHO.

-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), July 10th, 2001 1:00 AM.


It's the absolute essence of The Fall, never bettered.

-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), July 11th, 2001


Dragnet is real Fallmusik - accept no other (except Room To Live, Hex, Witch Trials)

-- Dr C (Daveatcrossdee...), September 10th, 2001

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I forgot:

(In answer to: Which FALL album do you get first?)

Not a single vote for Dragnet then?

-- Nag! Nag! Nag! (MarquisChaCha...), August 28th, 2003 5:47 AM.

Dragnet

-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), August 28th, 2003 10:56 AM.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link

50

points: 338
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 11

STEELY DAN - PRETZEL LOGIC

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Tonight's The Night:


On the Beach is alright, but Tonight's the Night's peerless.

-- otto (ottomanjense...), March 28th, 2004

The only Neil Young album I can love. There's something so dark and tragic yet playful in it. And you can shout along with it brilliantly.

-- Omar (o.muno...), May 2nd, 2001


"Tonight's the Night" is one of the most gloriously, strangely f***ed up records I've ever heard. He just sounds like his hanging on the edge of complete mental collapse. But oddly indifferent to it. Most of his early solo albums have a similar kind of catastrophic feel to them. I think he's great for bad hangovers.

-- Johnathan (blis...), May 2nd, 2001

in answer to 'Name a so-called classic album which you think is a real stinker':

every record by Neil Young except Tonight's the Night.
-- o.munoz (o.muno...), January 12th, 2001

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll be very surprised if London Calling is number one. Are there really that mean people around here who love it that much (given how many people hate the Clash)?

RS, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Miles Davis continues to be the only jazz musician in the universe.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

um #55

whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link


PL is probably SD's crowning glory. Struck the right balance between conventional pop structures, MOR and whatever it is that they do. I love the wintery feeling of the thing ("We could stay inside and play games, I don't know), perfectly reflected on the cover shot.

-- Baaderonixxx le Jeune (fabfon...), November 19th, 2004.

whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link

It's already begun to an extent, but can there be a seperate thread for people predicting what the top 30/25/20/10 will be PLEEEEASSSEEE????? It totally kills the surprise.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link


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