Is SPIN really circling the drain?

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the title of this thread reminds me of every Newsweek cover headline ever

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

oh, and Happy Birthday Ned.

Thanks!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

"No one will put out a new magazine that is fun to read because everyone under the age of 20 knows that reading is no fun."

Even though I'm biased, I really do think Decibel is the best music mag being made in the U.S. But genre mags don't have to play by the same rules as normal mags. they can assume that people know a little bit about the subject and don't have to spoon feed. I still think someone could do this with a music mag aimed at a general audience. write intelligently and with a sense of humor and not play dumb. i really think people would be appreciative. spin started out that way.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

my hero:

http://www.popmatters.com/music/interviews/mudrian-albert-060228.shtml

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

I would say the case is made by the fact that Andy Pemberton is the replacement meant to change the product, don.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

"When Andy Pemberton came to New York in 2001 to help launch Dennis Publishing’s new music mag, Blender, he says he felt that the music mags on the market were tired and arduous. He couldn’t understand how music writers could take something that he thought was “the most fun thing” and make it tedious."

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

cuz music writers are in charge of what gets printed, in case you didn't know.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

We like the post-Colonial electronica that goes boom.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

this is completely confusing:

"There's a new music magazine, Tracks, which is marketed to an older listening audience. Does this magazine affect you?
It is a totally different audience; however, we do cover album reissues. Before us, no other magazines did that. We like to maintain a wider presence, but I think that it would also be a good idea to do a Mojo-like magazine in America."

Is he really saying that Blender was the first magazine to review reissues? Why would he say that?

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

according to their own publisher's statement, spin's newsstand price was 94 cents in second half of last year. is that right?

(second half 05 newsstand sales: rs - 129k, blender 82k, spin 52k)

― dan (dan), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

Were there an ILM: The Magazine, I would want to do the Sassy-style puff pieces on famous celebrities: "Patricia Churchland...Tab or Fresca?"

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

That would be fantastic.

― My Psychic Friends Are Strangely Silent (Ex Leon), Thursday, 2 March 2006 19:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

like i said upthread, the black metal dudes would get their own corner

― latebloomer: where dignity goes to die (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

Like, corner of the office, or corner of the magazine?

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

It is laughably ridiculous that you continue to ridicule black metal untrendy tr00 believers such as myself, Vas and Sami, usw, like this. As if we would want a corner of the Spin, do me a break. Should we write little pop articles for girls? What I am hearing is absurd! Let me know anyone if you would like me to YSI their new demo.

― Janne Karlsson, Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

but with Spin, you'd all have an outlet to pervert the minds of impressionable young readers across the country!

― latebloomer: where dignity goes to die (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

you could review current metal albums and school the youngun's on being kult and necro and shit

― latebloomer: where dignity goes to die (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

And you could decorate your corner however you want! Ok, within certain limits.

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

yeah, just prolly not animal carcasses, the other staff members might not appreciate the smell.

― latebloomer: where dignity goes to die (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:47 (7 years ago) Permalink

i leve the carcass of my prey where i want, waekling

― Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

and you would not want to be decoratement on the walls of my office, i am guessing

― Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

Perhaps small pentagram on floor? OK, maybe I am sympathetic to this wish. However if people become afraid, so bad for them, for it is well across the internet known my reviews are uncompromising and pull off no punches.

― Janne Karlsson, Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

this is more what i am having in mind

― Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

That is the guy from Children of Boredom who make stupid faces?

― Janne Karlsson, Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

no, but it will be

― latebloomer: where dignity goes to die (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

you know nothing weakling, of my victims.

― Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

time for your pills

― blunt (blunt), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

more changes:

http://www.gawker.com/news/spin/what-goes-up-must-come-down-spinnin-wheel-got-to-go-round-158054.php

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

SPIN should just reprint old issues from late 80s/early 90s in their entirety and sell those.

― dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'd buy that.

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

would it be bad to open a bottle of champagne in celebration of the -- hopefully - permanent demise of Marc Sptiz?

― juana, Thursday, 2 March 2006 22:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

Juana makes wine from the tears of Ultragrrrl.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 2 March 2006 22:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

Back to ILM Magazine, could I have a deep house review section please ? No reviews, no ratings, no BS : just a list of unfailingly fine, recently re(re)leased recordings to be bought eyes closed & ears open.

― blunt (blunt), Thursday, 2 March 2006 22:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

I think the name for the ILM Magazine should be CIRCLING THE DRAIN.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 March 2006 22:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

Is ILM really circling the drain? (answer: yes)

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 2 March 2006 22:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

We've recycled and are currently in cloud formation mode.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 22:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

The whole "drain" imagery has me thinking of ILM, from

― Je4nne Æ’urÂ¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 2 March 2006 22:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

Revolver sold for $4 million. Considering Revolver has no outstanding debt and actually makes money, it's basically worth more that SPIN. Wow.

― ng-unit, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

but no one here cares, b/c a.) no name crits have ever had anything to do with it, b.) its the butt-rock journal of note. However, it was sold by Harris Publications, which used to own Guitar World. Now Future Music owns GW and Rev, and Harris is divested of music titles.

― veronica moser (veronica moser), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

i've always liked the issues of revolver i've read, although i don't know much abt. the bands in it.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

Harris is divested of music titles.

that's pretty big news, I'd say! they had a bunch of them.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 9 March 2006 02:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

i wish they sold metal hammer where i live. i wish they sold anything where i live. they do have revolver at the drug store, but i've never bought a copy. which is weird, cuz i'll buy anything. maybe i'll buy the one out now. (that interview with the editor over at revolver on rockcritics.com scared me from ever sending them my stuff. he said something about not liking...whatever it is i do. i can't remember the specifics.)

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 9 March 2006 02:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

"whatever it is i do"

not ME personally. just my ilk, i guess.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 9 March 2006 02:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

You have an ilk?

I want an ilk.

― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Thursday, 9 March 2006 07:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

i hate the rest of denis publications, but blender is good with all kinds of music, its smart about shit that sells (cf the kenny chesney feature), it cares about culture (the mars hill article), it has fun (the 848 feature) and it actually hires women and other minorities to write for it...its not a bad magazine.

― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 9 March 2006 08:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

the butt-rock journal of note

roffle

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Thursday, 9 March 2006 11:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

Bring back MELODY MAKER...

― Russell Dixon (Skinny), Thursday, 9 March 2006 11:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

Wait did Matos really come out pro-America's Sweetheart in this thread?

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 9 March 2006 12:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

That rockcritics.com interview was weird, because the interviewer mentioned me by name as a contributor that made the mag interesting, or something (I forget, it's been awhile), yet it was right after that that my work for them pretty much dried up.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 9 March 2006 13:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

Uh I currently owe Harris thousands of dollars so I feel like they had more than just Revolver, or did they sell other ones lately?

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

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