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What list?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 7 January 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

It's no worse than plenty of other lists I've seen (and maybe more interesting than the other ones on that link, though maybe just 'cause it's longer). Interesting that he suddenly seems to like metal (even if he limits himself to "metal albums critics say it's okay to like") and Justin (which might not be new developments.) And his eternal love of non-threatening rap is kind of cute these days.

What's wrong with listing Veruca Salt? (They were better than Ride.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 7 January 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I was mostly just surprised they were still around and making records.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Sunday, 7 January 2007 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

>he limits himself to "metal albums critics say it's okay to like"

I don't know, I don't remember reading too many rave reviews of the new Ministry album (though that choice could be put down to vestigial Chicago loyalty, even if Al does live in Texas now).

pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 7 January 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i tuned in to "sound opinions" the other day, for about 20 seconds--then i realized what i was listening to.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 8 January 2007 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked Veruca Salt's IV album too; it smacks a little of homerism but don't hate on "Salt Flat Epic"!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 8 January 2007 04:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't hate Wolfmother. That afro! It's mesmerizing.

jodi, samurai photographer (burun), Monday, 8 January 2007 04:59 (seventeen years ago) link

"Woman" is pretty fun in Guitar Hero II.

rock and roll for the rock and roll soul (nate_patrin), Monday, 8 January 2007 06:07 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...
three months pass...

May 30 2008 4:11 PM EDT

R. Kelly Trial: Reporter Jim DeRogatis Ordered To Testify About Sex Tape

Defense wants to prove Chicago Sun-Times writer tampered with or created evidence.
By Jennifer Vineyard

CHICAGO — Though he tried to fight it, Chicago Sun-Times reporter Jim DeRogatis will be forced to testify in R. Kelly's child-pornography trial, Judge Vincent Gaughan ruled when he issued a subpoena for the reporter on Friday (May 30). The defense, however, will not be allowed to ask DeRogatis about his sources.

In February 2002, DeRogatis (along with fellow Sun-Times reporter Abdon Pallasch) broke the story about the existence of the alleged Kelly sex tape, a copy of which he received from an anonymous source and later turned in to the police. Defense attorney Marc Martin argued that since the tape had been in DeRogatis' "sole and exclusive possession," they needed the reporter's testimony to establish chain of custody. But more than that, he argued, the defense needed to establish whether DeRogatis tampered with or even created the evidence as part of his "extreme bias" against Kelly.

"Mr. Kelly has a constitutional right to show that this person has a bias, a bias so strong that it helped a reporter violate the law," Martin said.

"Did a reporter morph [the sex tape]?" Sun-Times lawyer Damon Dunn countered. "First you'd have to show that the tape was in fact morphed. And then you'd have to show that the technology necessary to do that was available to the reporter. And then you'd have to show that the reporter superimposed the images and got the contemporaneous soundtrack from radio broadcasts made years prior for this purpose. And then you'd have to show that this reporter distributed this videotape to other witnesses."

Regardless, Dunn added, "Whether or not DeRogatis has a bias against pedophiles is of no importance to this case," since it is not a defamation case.

Martin also claimed that in allegedly making a copy of the tape and showing it to witness Stephanie "Sparkle" Edwards in February 2002, DeRogatis committed a felony: possession of child pornography (which would seem to contradict the defense's claim that the tape does not constitute child pornography). If a crime were committed, Dunn countered, prosecution of that crime should come from the state, not the defense.

"What does this have to do with chain of custody?" Dunn asked rhetorically. "Nothing."

Whether DeRogatis possessed a copy in February 2002 or not, he could not be charged, since the statute of limitations would have passed. That also means the reporter could not rely upon Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination.

"The law is clear," Martin said. "The Fifth Amendment does not apply."

Gaughan said the defense could seek DeRogatis' testimony, within limits. The defense would not be permitted to ask him about how the tape was placed in his mailbox, or by whom. The defense would also have to narrow its question about whether DeRogatis possessed a copy of the tape other than the one he gave the police to just whether he had a copy, period. Any notes or memos made prior to and including February 1, 2002, would not be allowed, since that could put the source in jeopardy, but any materials relating to Sparkle would be allowed, "since she's not the source," Gaughan said.

Martin agreed that the defense would not seek DeRogatis' source, "unless of course DeRogatis took the position that he lied in his articles and lied to the police and there is a known source."

While the state and the defense were in the judge's chambers discussing a separate matter, a fan approached Kelly sitting alone at the defense table and tried to give the singer a couple of CDs. Introducing himself as "a lawyer and a musician," Mike Roman attempted to give the singer two albums for what he described as a Santana-like band. With an apologetic look on his face, Kelly refused to accept the CDs, telling Roman that there was a court decorum order and he wasn't even allowed to talk to him. Bailiffs escorted Roman out of the courthouse when they realized he was talking to the defendant.

Find a review of the major players in the R. Kelly trial here. For full coverage of the R. Kelly case, see the R. Kelly Reports and check out this complete timeline of the events leading up to the trial.

thirdalternative, Sunday, 1 June 2008 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link

yah bizarre

deej, Sunday, 1 June 2008 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Regardless, Dunn added, "Whether or not DeRogatis has a bias against pedophiles is of no importance to this case," since it is not a defamation case.

THIS ^^^^^

stephen, Sunday, 1 June 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

*insert fat joke*

kenan, Sunday, 1 June 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

*insert rapist joke*

stephen, Sunday, 1 June 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

*don't forget the "kenan is a pedo" joke*

kenan, Sunday, 1 June 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Ick.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 January 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Jim DeRogatis has a problem with new media:

http://bit.ly/d6li28

thirdalternative, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't really need to read another article about DeRo, so that link probably explains this, but isn't "new media" how he makes most of his money these days?

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Sounds like he's just mad at Whiney and wants some of that action.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

A punk rocker to the core, DeRogatis strongly encourages a little heckling during the lecture.

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks!

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Will he get made if you hock a loogie on him?

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

yes, if you spit on him he goes gangsta

O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

A punk rocker to the core, DeRogatis strongly encourages Third Eye Blind lead singer Stephen Jenkins to kiss him wetly behind the ear

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link


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