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p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

gawker isnt a message board

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

ilx is my favorite blog

markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

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p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc

I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions

4 my muthafuckin mods (crüt), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.

Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

are the finns a race?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.

Guess they didn't have Google then either.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),

jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

zorn smash

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

is this chorus racist?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

?

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://dasracist.net/

am0n, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

idk singing about sippin syrup like three 6 and getting "slizzered"

it's a bit 3oh3 minstrel

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

i can def see that

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

Man, if it's wrong to make fun of people who drink cough syrup to get high, I don't wanna get high.

doobieborther, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

How does all the lol ghetto retard stuff on lamebook.com fit into this thread? Not sure if I'd rather it be real or fake.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think a bunch of well-off white people looking at it on their MacBook Pros and laughing at it through a mouthful of Whole Foods salad bar is pretty racist

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

glad I'm broke, on a dell, and had chili for lunch then.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

black people eat Whole Foods salad bar, too

sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

so like, on a pitchfork scale of 0.0 to 10.0, where 10.0 is a lynching, and 0.0 is Martin Luther King Jr. enjoying a cup of coffee while making breakfast, in his pajamas, humming a soft song to himself, where would the MacBook Pro thing fall? where does this comment fall?

I think this thread, while started with the noblest of intentions, has been a failure. And the reason I believe it has failed is that we (as a society) are so resigned to simply declaring something racist or not, as if it's binary, instead of attempting to quantify exactly how racist something really is, using numerical scales.

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

that scene from Louie where the school bus breaks down in Harlem and he reassigns the black kids the window seats: greater than 1.2?

*folds hands, rests elbows on desk, places chin on fingertips, looks up and slightly to the left, thinks*

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think you've anticipated an exciting new direction for Pitchfork Reviews Reviews

sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

God, this fucking thread. Is this racist? Is it? Well? I need something to be outraged about, fuckin' tell me!!! Ugh.

SourPatchCorpse, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

i dont think anyone is really all that outraged tbh

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Was Dr. King's morning coffee fair trade or unregulated?

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

Exactly, this thread isn't about being outraged at these things, it's about discussing them, and learning from them, and analyzing peoples motivations, gaining valuable insight into contemporary race relations, and proposing solutions for a more equitable society. Which is why it is essentially ineffectual, and why we should focus on merely assigning submitted material a score.

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

we can't be sure, can we, so let's kick it up to 0.8

('_') (omar little), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

xp that is not for me, as a MacBook Pro owner, to say

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

jk i don't really own one of those racist fuckin computers ;p

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

venti frap all over the keyboard

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

black people eat Whole Foods salad bar, too

― sarahel, Tuesday, September 21, 2010 3:19 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

white people live in "ghetto"s too, but hilarious that you missed my point so wildly

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

― my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:41 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark

3.9 imo, though it depends what you were eating when you posted it

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

meth is a white trash drug last time I checked, but ok?

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

stop being rooster racists

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

So it's only OK to laugh at Mexicans when they do white trash drugs?

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm more laughing at the rooster, honestly

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

you better be

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

also, mods plz delete jpg from thread, there's a reason thats on 77

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

in case l0rena googles "20ur8gm.png"

('_') (omar little), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

OMG GOOGLE FOR http://i55.tinypic.com/20ur8gm.png AND FIND LORENA

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 23:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

ahahaha

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 23:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

Your search - 20ur8gm.png - did not match any documents.

markers, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 01:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

when ppl talk abt "traditional african culture"

a fucking knitted scarf (another al3x), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 03:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm reading a column in a COLLEGE NEWSPAPER about Obama "getting his grove back"

This is kinda racist right?

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

GROOVE*********

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

That one is questionable. I doubt intentionally racist, but certainly guilty of trying and failing to be "witty".

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

bohemian groove

"SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

Does BME include Irish?

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 July 2014 14:48 (Yesterday) Permalink

Not usually.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 10 July 2014 14:50 (Yesterday) Permalink

Well I was joking but being Irish is usually a category on its own when filling out Equal Opportunity forms.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 July 2014 14:53 (Yesterday) Permalink

LOL UK amirite?

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 July 2014 14:54 (Yesterday) Permalink

xpost dunno but it did sign Chyna Whyte

relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 July 2014 14:54 (Yesterday) Permalink

Sometimes Irish are listed as BME. Depends on circumstances.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Thursday, 10 July 2014 14:55 (Yesterday) Permalink

Think there's probably residual admiration for Germany too pouring over from admiration for German brands too

Probably a racial component too, Germany happens to be the 'right kind if white' but IDK if it'd be articulated in that way

Idk, I can ask my cousin - she's a big fan of Germany

― 龜, Thursday, 10 July 2014 14:45 (10 minutes ago) Permalink

conrad, Thursday, 10 July 2014 14:56 (Yesterday) Permalink

pplains otm. I mean I don't waste time objecting to the term because I don't think derailing conversations about race is valuable unless that's your sole aim, just seemed worth mentioning cause ppl were talking about how terrible p.o.ethnicity is, and I don't see that this phrase frames whiteness as the default any less. but I don't use it & nor does anyone I know. Lots of ppl doing important work like the term, fine, I find it awkward & mealy-mouthed. As long as nobody's saying that activists necessarily get the final say on how everyone should feel about these terms, it's not really a thing.

Lots of xps

when there's no more room in heㄥㄥ the thread will walk the earth (wins), Thursday, 10 July 2014 15:10 (Yesterday) Permalink

interesting that "POC" came into wide american usage thru fanon, but i don't think he's the originator of the term -- iirc (dimly) it's a french coinage from its own colonial times -- meant as a catch-all term for the varieties of people descended from both french and africans

but tbh i'm getting this from this book: http://www.tomreiss.com/node/18 and it's only touched upon glancingly in the explicit connection. he uses "people of color" because it's the term extant in all the legal documents from the era

goole, Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:03 (Yesterday) Permalink

I'm glad we can all agree that the real problem is activists telling people how to feel a way.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:57 (Yesterday) Permalink

"People of ethnicity" is not a term used in the UK. The usual phrase is "BME people".

An HR person in the UK used it when talking specifically about 'diversity awareness training' and it jarred. I was wondering if this was the new POC, which to me as a Brit does sound odd on its own but as IO says, it seems to have been widely accepted so who am I to object.

kinder, Thursday, 10 July 2014 18:23 (Yesterday) Permalink

NME people?

how's life, Thursday, 10 July 2014 18:26 (Yesterday) Permalink

I'm glad we can all agree that the real problem is activists telling people how to feel a way.

― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:57 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah don't be a d*ck

when there's no more room in heㄥㄥ the thread will walk the earth (wins), Thursday, 10 July 2014 22:28 (Yesterday) Permalink

or ok I guess I phrased it badly, sorry

this is a verrrry unperfect phrase being used to describe a giant fucking mass of people, I was saying that when some of them feel a bit iffy about that phrase then it'd be uncool to argue "well these people like it so nobody gets to argue" and then acknowledged that prob nobody itt was making that argument

when there's no more room in heㄥㄥ the thread will walk the earth (wins), Thursday, 10 July 2014 22:31 (Yesterday) Permalink

When I was younger a lot of older australians called migrants "ethnics", fwiw. The other quaint old phrase boomers used was "new Australians".

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Friday, 11 July 2014 04:21 (17 hours ago) Permalink


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