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Great, great album - a little more produced than I expected, but typically great songwriting (probably even better than Get Lonely)

StanM, Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

haha way to help j0hn out by keeping the leak a secret.

Lingbert, Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

i am already selling chopped and screwed versions on the corner along with I Am Legend DVDs.

scott seward, Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

people are talking on the official site's forum too, but ok

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StanM, Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

stan why do you want to bankrupt j0hn

Lingbert, Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

Looking forward to (legally!) downloading Heretic Pride. I loved The Sunset Tree, especially Lion's Teeth. Such a powerful, sad song (e.g., "There's no good way to end this/Anyone can see/There's this great big you/And little old me."). eMusic just got a truckload of older MG discs, so I nabbed All Hail West Texas, which is v. good, too.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

(I totally missed Get Lonely, tho.)

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

I don't know! Maybe I'm just evil :-(

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StanM, Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

Agreed with Daniel about The Sunset Tree--one of my favorite albums of 2005! Get Lonely seemed a bit too stark (depressive?) for me at the time, though--so much so that I couldn't actually listen to it all that much. Can't wait to buy a copy of the new one! Go Johnny Go!!

Ioannis, Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

It sounds really awesome, nice to hear some prominent drumming in the mix.

I will totally pimp this on my radio show.

Simon H., Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

as I said upthread, four or five years ago:

I try to avoid talking about my own stuff on ilX0r

but regarding the leak 'n' all: I don't think talking about a leak really does me or anybody any harm. Leaks are part of the life of a release now; they're expected and anticipated. (A lot of people like to tell each other that "the labels" [always plural, very mysterious conglomerate known as The Labels] leak whole albums on purpose for buzz, but none of the indie labels I know do that; could be true in other genres/strata, I don't know.)

J0hn D., Sunday, 30 December 2007 00:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

however yes people who download & enjoy it but don't then follow through with a purchase = not "evil" (that's self-congratulatory), just kinda bein' dicks imo

J0hn D., Sunday, 30 December 2007 00:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

j0hn you have pretty far ranging tastes, e.g. metal + most everything else; have you, or have you considered, making music in a different idiom? (not that there's anything wrong with your current one--just wondering.)

if you say no due to instrumental dexterity i will not believe you.

mookieproof, Sunday, 30 December 2007 00:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's crossed my mind, world enough and time you know. just doing what I'm already doing takes up most of my time. I don't have any desire to make metal though - people ask me that a lot, but I prefer to be a fan. once you leave the fan role and become a participant it changes your relationship to the genre you're working in, and forever as far as I know. I would rather remain a metalhead in the pit or at least at the bar and leave the shredding to the people who are really good at it.

J0hn D., Sunday, 30 December 2007 00:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

I still have a load of stuff to catch up with from 2007 so I can wait (probably) til February to pick this up with real life £££ (or possibly $$$).

We Shall All Be Healed I have probably listened to more than anything else I have ever owned and Linda Blair Was Born Innocent is quite possibly my favouritest song ever; The Sunset Tree I also gave a good outing to but not perhaps as much as I should have; I left my copy of Get Lonely in the US and haven't gotten round to buying another (gave it an aewsoem review tho) but fully intend to along with all the other bits that are missing.

I'm incredibly annoyed at myself for missing the show in London earlier this month - any possibility of another one this year or maybe a festival appearance or two?

'Surrounded' is great btw.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 30 December 2007 01:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

A friend just asked which MG album to start with; I recommend ...Healed. It's my favorite, the first one I bought, thus very speical. Reminds me a bit of Joan Didion: an attempt to pin down a nameless dread that the narrator's seen but is still too spooked to delineate.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 30 December 2007 01:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

"an attempt to pin down a nameless dread that the narrator's seen but is still too spooked to delineate."

wow, john has seen my dad naked? i should get that one.

scott seward, Sunday, 30 December 2007 02:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

So a mountain goat goes up to another mountain goat and says "Who was that lady I saw you with last night?" And the other goat goes "That was no lady! That was my kid!"

kingkongvsgodzilla, Sunday, 30 December 2007 02:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

So J0hn once said that he wasn't "that J0hn D," and now I realize he must have meant he wasn't the rap journo.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 30 December 2007 04:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

May a disappointed fan inquire ofa certain someone as to whether the cancelled Northampton show will be rescheduled in the foreseeable future? Please?

Usual Channels, Sunday, 30 December 2007 04:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

From the forum:

Quick request from yrs truly, who again is actually kinda relieved about the leak - I'm very proud of this record and I think people who dig my stuff are gonna be pretty into it - if you're gonna d/l it as soon as you find it, would you kindly preorder it? like, at the same time as you're downloading it, instead of "maybe I'll buy it at a show or something"? it would be very rad if y'all who're gonna grab it and intend to buy it would do this. You would be doing me a real favor. Those of you who aren't gonna buy it anyway no matter what, nothing I can say is gonna make any difference anyhow, so this isn't about that. But the rest of you, may I remind you that them there pre-orders are right here?:

www.beggarsgroupusa.com

I just preordered the digital album for what seems like a very reasonable $8.

toby, Monday, 31 December 2007 00:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

The "Coming Soon" box says it will appear on eMusic on 02.19.08.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 31 December 2007 00:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

J0hn D., why is your book not about Chocolate Factory? I find this immensely disappointing.

The Reverend, Monday, 31 December 2007 00:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

Played this earlier for first time, sounded good.

Is the sleeve supposed to have a black metal vibe to it or what?

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 3 January 2008 17:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

Where do non-Americans register for that preorder?

StanM, Thursday, 3 January 2008 17:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

I'll be buying this the day it comes out, on CD; really looking forward to it, as I've enjoyed all the 4AD stuff and am dipping my toes into the earlier material as i come across it in the used shops.

& if John wanted to branch out into a different realm, he could always go Dashboard-style emo, and do pretty well imo. But I'd prefer that he didnt.

stephen, Friday, 4 January 2008 05:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think he should but perhaps under a different name. doodz are easily confused.

Upt0eleven, Friday, 4 January 2008 09:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Does anyone have an extra ticket to the Philly show?

St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 10 March 2008 01:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

Digging the new record more with every listen.

And I now know what an Autoclave is.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 15:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

Still need to pick up Heretic Price, damnit...

stephen, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 15:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

(Heretic Pride, even)

stephen, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 15:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

going to catch the mountain goats on 12 april

'the sunset tree' has been tiding me over very nicely just recently. i should give the new one a close listen too.

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 13 March 2008 03:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

Get well soon, Mr. D.

( http://www.mountain-goats.com/archives/2008/03/australian-tour.html )

StanM, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

get well soon J0hn, you are rad.

t_g, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

Get well soon.

toby, Thursday, 20 March 2008 13:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

What they said.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 20 March 2008 13:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

yikes j0hn hope u are ok

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 20 March 2008 15:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

bump for more good vibes & because J0hn is one of the awesomest dudes on ILX

StanM, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

Too bad about that. NY Times gave a very good review today of Tuesday night's show.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

i heard the show last night (wed) in williamsburg was really awesome. my good friend laura went who is a huge fan. said the electric guitar and drums worked well.

Surmounter, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

i really like heretic pride a lot.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

Wishing John well, he's a real inspiration.

myndbloom, Thursday, 20 March 2008 21:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah get lonely & heretic pride have been spinning in my car for like 2 months now. get well soon dude.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 20 March 2008 21:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

Thank you everybody. Kind of in a really dark tunnel right now which keeps getting darker. It is kind of not my style to air this sort of thing out publicly online both for antiquated reasons of decor & because it's weird when I say something somewhere and it ends up as part of the generally-received bio or something. Sort of have to be prudent about saying "here's what's going on with me" too much.

Really can't tell you how much I appreciate your kind words. More than I can say!

Because I have had to cancel one tour and stop booking another in order to be home, you will all have the chance to get way tired of me & my strident ways over the next couple of months tho LOL awesome hit me back yo

J0hn D., Friday, 21 March 2008 01:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

j0hn!! i started spinning heretic pride again like literally 5 minutes ago lol. it is great. get better.

deeznuts, Friday, 21 March 2008 01:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

Very sorry to hear about your hard times. I hope you come through more or less intact. Though I don't really know most folks here too well, I'm pretty sure I speak for more than just me when I say, let us know if there's anything we do.

dad a, Friday, 21 March 2008 01:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

get better u are loved

jergïns, Friday, 21 March 2008 01:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

:( get better J0hn. Haven't listened to the new album yet but I am going to!!!

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 21 March 2008 01:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

yer a good dude, hope all turns upwards and well

John Justen, Friday, 21 March 2008 01:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

Best wishes for you, J0hn, and whatever yr situation happens to be.

libcrypt, Friday, 21 March 2008 01:59 (6 years ago) Permalink


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