rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

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he's not even listed on the mtv site, which is usually v good about putting directors up in there

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

gonna lol if it was Hype Williams

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

the video and song are both unmentionably terrible w/ stupid and retrograde notions about race but i don't think they are simply ~racist~

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

Sophie Muller directed it.

Kerm, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

more offensive for not being funny

bnw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

that was a fake

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

but it was racist because someone realized that they could spell "nigger" by a video game and they set up a soccer video game and took a photo of it and sent it all over the internet

so yes, racist

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

this isn't a thread for lol racism, fyi. keep that shit to "encyclopedia of racist products" or, like, 4chan

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

strictly concern trolling in here.

Kerm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

I figured it was some soccer thing. Wouldn't have been surprised if it had been real.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

love the gawker update where they act like they understood the joke from the beginning

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

barf

maybe LJ is right about ilx being the smartest message board

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://hipsterhitler.com/

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

gawker isnt a message board

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

ilx is my favorite blog

markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

MIXMASTER
RACE

EASTSIDE
WESTSIDE
GENOCIDE

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc

I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions

4 my muthafuckin mods (crüt), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.

Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

are the finns a race?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.

Guess they didn't have Google then either.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),

jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

zorn smash

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

is this chorus racist?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

?

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://dasracist.net/

am0n, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

idk singing about sippin syrup like three 6 and getting "slizzered"

it's a bit 3oh3 minstrel

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

i can def see that

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

Man, if it's wrong to make fun of people who drink cough syrup to get high, I don't wanna get high.

doobieborther, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

How does all the lol ghetto retard stuff on lamebook.com fit into this thread? Not sure if I'd rather it be real or fake.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

i think a bunch of well-off white people looking at it on their MacBook Pros and laughing at it through a mouthful of Whole Foods salad bar is pretty racist

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

glad I'm broke, on a dell, and had chili for lunch then.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

black people eat Whole Foods salad bar, too

sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

so like, on a pitchfork scale of 0.0 to 10.0, where 10.0 is a lynching, and 0.0 is Martin Luther King Jr. enjoying a cup of coffee while making breakfast, in his pajamas, humming a soft song to himself, where would the MacBook Pro thing fall? where does this comment fall?

I think this thread, while started with the noblest of intentions, has been a failure. And the reason I believe it has failed is that we (as a society) are so resigned to simply declaring something racist or not, as if it's binary, instead of attempting to quantify exactly how racist something really is, using numerical scales.

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

that scene from Louie where the school bus breaks down in Harlem and he reassigns the black kids the window seats: greater than 1.2?

*folds hands, rests elbows on desk, places chin on fingertips, looks up and slightly to the left, thinks*

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

i think you've anticipated an exciting new direction for Pitchfork Reviews Reviews

sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

God, this fucking thread. Is this racist? Is it? Well? I need something to be outraged about, fuckin' tell me!!! Ugh.

SourPatchCorpse, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

i dont think anyone is really all that outraged tbh

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

Was Dr. King's morning coffee fair trade or unregulated?

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

Exactly, this thread isn't about being outraged at these things, it's about discussing them, and learning from them, and analyzing peoples motivations, gaining valuable insight into contemporary race relations, and proposing solutions for a more equitable society. Which is why it is essentially ineffectual, and why we should focus on merely assigning submitted material a score.

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

we can't be sure, can we, so let's kick it up to 0.8

('_') (omar little), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

xp that is not for me, as a MacBook Pro owner, to say

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

jk i don't really own one of those racist fuckin computers ;p

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

venti frap all over the keyboard

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 20:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

black people eat Whole Foods salad bar, too

― sarahel, Tuesday, September 21, 2010 3:19 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

white people live in "ghetto"s too, but hilarious that you missed my point so wildly

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

― my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:41 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark

3.9 imo, though it depends what you were eating when you posted it

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

someone from Glide posted in the comments:

I'm a Glide member and have participated at the grocery bag giveaway...

This is something we're aware happens and, essentially, we turn the other eye intentionally because...

1) We ensure that everyone that comes on time (and many that come late) get groceries
2) This happens but its small number of people, relative to the thousands that are helped
3) Many elderly Asian households in SF are well below the poverty line and depend on food and financial assistance
4) The line takes a significant amount of time to get through; if they are desperate enough to wind through it multiple times for the small amount of money they will make selling them piecemeal on the street. Well, we've provided help to them too

In the end, its a small thing that we don't really see as an issue at all. No we are not going to stamp peoples hands and shame those that come back. Its a pitty that for many here, the faint whiff of injustice (and really, beating on the poor for doing what they can to get by?) creates this animosity towards the poor in general.

For fucks sake, we helped 6,000 to have a chance to have a holiday meal. Focusing on that.

nomar, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:32 (6 months ago) Permalink

the headline is specifically about "Asian" sellers, the article mentions that "most" are Asian...gross imo

nomar, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:33 (6 months ago) Permalink

yeah that's p fucked up

if Glide's okay w it then I don't care, really. I've volunteered there before, they are a great institution.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:35 (6 months ago) Permalink

massive respect for the Glide member in the comments.

Are you fondeling the computer. (stevie), Friday, 18 December 2015 09:36 (6 months ago) Permalink

That entire story is disgusting.

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 18 December 2015 14:02 (6 months ago) Permalink

(To be clear, I am not talking about the people selling food.)

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 18 December 2015 14:05 (6 months ago) Permalink

Ugggh the racist posts in that thread are basically how my school's entire community talks about Asian immigrants. Somehow the Russians, Ukranians, etc etc white Christian immigrants aren't "lowering property values" but Chinese-Americans are. It's a really toxic stew around here.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Friday, 18 December 2015 15:38 (6 months ago) Permalink

A large department store-type property remains vacant for many years, until finally the Salvation Army rents it out. Now no businesses will occupy any of the other storefronts on that block or across from it because no one wants to be associated with people who shop at the Salvation Army (apparently not just suburban highschoolers and theater majors) or have them as customers. Churches with food pantries help only to their own congregation or those known to their congregations--they don't put signs up in public or seek to serve the general public. I walk into the school office and three people who work with children every day are complaining about Chinese immigrants, right in front of me, like it's perfectly normal. Eventually I'm going to need a way to wash my brain besides soaking it in wine.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Friday, 18 December 2015 15:48 (6 months ago) Permalink

Have you considered making up business cards that say "shut the fuck up" and handing them out to these people?

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 18 December 2015 15:56 (6 months ago) Permalink

I have to work with these people.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:16 (6 months ago) Permalink

Working here is like being a spy behind enemy lines basically. One wrong word and I'm kaput (or at least will have several months' worth of relationship repair work to do, as has already happened).

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:19 (6 months ago) Permalink

Have you considered drafting an anonymous friend to shadow these people and hand them "shut the fuck up" business cards?

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:33 (6 months ago) Permalink

I am interested and would like to subscribe to this newsletter.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:40 (6 months ago) Permalink

Gotta be some way to leverage that in the gig economy.

how's life, Friday, 18 December 2015 17:08 (6 months ago) Permalink

Shut The Fuck App

how's life, Friday, 18 December 2015 17:17 (6 months ago) Permalink

omg let's workshop this

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 18 December 2015 17:25 (6 months ago) Permalink

"shaming these ladies, who are mostly of Asian descent," -- ah the classic "racial ascription subclause," now a unique grammatical feature of the english language.

(can't find the ", who is black" thread for some reason)

big WHOIS aka the nameserver (s.clover), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 06:22 (6 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Is this anti-semitism?

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 April 2016 17:09 (3 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Rolling 2016 Thread on Race

ps: yes, it is IMO racist

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:58 (2 months ago) Permalink

you could write a pretty crazy book about all of the legal and commercial things that have gone on with the marley estate

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:20 (2 months ago) Permalink

Boris Johnson, a cunt

Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:18 (2 months ago) Permalink

ah yes, the inheritable distaste for the UK

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:19 (2 months ago) Permalink

Johnson, Goldsmith and Cameron all going racist in the run up to the mayoral elections and EU referendum

just her neck. thankig u in advance (stevie), Saturday, 23 April 2016 10:08 (2 months ago) Permalink

going

punnerist spoon here (onimo), Saturday, 23 April 2016 10:29 (2 months ago) Permalink

Sir Lynton Keith Crosby, AO (born 23 August 1956)[1][2] is an Australian political strategist who has managed election campaigns for right-of-centre parties in several countries.[3] Crosby has been described as a "master of the dark political arts", "the Wizard of Oz", and "the Australian Karl Rove". In 2002, he was called "one of the most powerful and influential figures in the nation" by The Age.

Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 April 2016 10:29 (2 months ago) Permalink

well, yes, of course (xp)

just her neck. thankig u in advance (stevie), Saturday, 23 April 2016 10:45 (2 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 16:39 (1 month ago) Permalink

priceless reaction

lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 17:00 (1 month ago) Permalink


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