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he's not even listed on the mtv site, which is usually v good about putting directors up in there

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

gonna lol if it was Hype Williams

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

the video and song are both unmentionably terrible w/ stupid and retrograde notions about race but i don't think they are simply ~racist~

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Sophie Muller directed it.

Kerm, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

more offensive for not being funny

bnw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

that was a fake

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

but it was racist because someone realized that they could spell "nigger" by a video game and they set up a soccer video game and took a photo of it and sent it all over the internet

so yes, racist

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

this isn't a thread for lol racism, fyi. keep that shit to "encyclopedia of racist products" or, like, 4chan

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

strictly concern trolling in here.

Kerm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

I figured it was some soccer thing. Wouldn't have been surprised if it had been real.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

love the gawker update where they act like they understood the joke from the beginning

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

barf

maybe LJ is right about ilx being the smartest message board

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://hipsterhitler.com/

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

gawker isnt a message board

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

ilx is my favorite blog

markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

MIXMASTER
RACE

EASTSIDE
WESTSIDE
GENOCIDE

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc

I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions

4 my muthafuckin mods (crüt), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.

Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

are the finns a race?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.

Guess they didn't have Google then either.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),

jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

zorn smash

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

is this chorus racist?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

?

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://dasracist.net/

am0n, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

idk singing about sippin syrup like three 6 and getting "slizzered"

it's a bit 3oh3 minstrel

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

i can def see that

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Man, if it's wrong to make fun of people who drink cough syrup to get high, I don't wanna get high.

doobieborther, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

How does all the lol ghetto retard stuff on lamebook.com fit into this thread? Not sure if I'd rather it be real or fake.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think a bunch of well-off white people looking at it on their MacBook Pros and laughing at it through a mouthful of Whole Foods salad bar is pretty racist

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

glad I'm broke, on a dell, and had chili for lunch then.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

black people eat Whole Foods salad bar, too

sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

so like, on a pitchfork scale of 0.0 to 10.0, where 10.0 is a lynching, and 0.0 is Martin Luther King Jr. enjoying a cup of coffee while making breakfast, in his pajamas, humming a soft song to himself, where would the MacBook Pro thing fall? where does this comment fall?

I think this thread, while started with the noblest of intentions, has been a failure. And the reason I believe it has failed is that we (as a society) are so resigned to simply declaring something racist or not, as if it's binary, instead of attempting to quantify exactly how racist something really is, using numerical scales.

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

that scene from Louie where the school bus breaks down in Harlem and he reassigns the black kids the window seats: greater than 1.2?

*folds hands, rests elbows on desk, places chin on fingertips, looks up and slightly to the left, thinks*

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think you've anticipated an exciting new direction for Pitchfork Reviews Reviews

sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

God, this fucking thread. Is this racist? Is it? Well? I need something to be outraged about, fuckin' tell me!!! Ugh.

SourPatchCorpse, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

i dont think anyone is really all that outraged tbh

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Was Dr. King's morning coffee fair trade or unregulated?

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

Exactly, this thread isn't about being outraged at these things, it's about discussing them, and learning from them, and analyzing peoples motivations, gaining valuable insight into contemporary race relations, and proposing solutions for a more equitable society. Which is why it is essentially ineffectual, and why we should focus on merely assigning submitted material a score.

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

we can't be sure, can we, so let's kick it up to 0.8

('_') (omar little), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

xp that is not for me, as a MacBook Pro owner, to say

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

jk i don't really own one of those racist fuckin computers ;p

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

venti frap all over the keyboard

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 20:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

black people eat Whole Foods salad bar, too

― sarahel, Tuesday, September 21, 2010 3:19 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

white people live in "ghetto"s too, but hilarious that you missed my point so wildly

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

― my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:41 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark

3.9 imo, though it depends what you were eating when you posted it

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

Mayor Ramsey said the city's attorney, the clerk and the waste water treatment plant supervisor also turned in resignation letters citing "safety concerns."

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:25 (2 months ago) Permalink

working for a black woman apparently is unsafe in 2015 missouri. who knew?

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:36 (2 months ago) Permalink

Parma Police, a racist bunch of men

pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 03:11 (2 months ago) Permalink

I like the "they're not racist, they're a criminal conspiracy!" counter-narrative crawling out from under the usual white supremacist rocks. Here's a wacky idea: maybe both?

Three Word Username, Monday, 20 April 2015 08:07 (2 months ago) Permalink

For the past couple of weeks, one of my facebook friends (a high school buddy's spouse) has been posting up updates or comments like "they're not racist, they're just BAD POLICE. there are white police shooting black kids, black police shooting black kids, black police shooting white kids. why does everybody have to keep bringing race into this?" I've been biting my tongue pretty hard because she's my friends wife and like, I'm going to be charitable and imagine they are in disagreement about this already and hopefully having fights at home about it, but holy fuck.

fish or click bait (how's life), Monday, 20 April 2015 09:24 (2 months ago) Permalink

black black white white, what are you talking about RACE for?

kinder, Monday, 20 April 2015 10:05 (2 months ago) Permalink

a rainbow coalition of cops shooting people

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 20 April 2015 14:16 (2 months ago) Permalink

There's a small part of me that enjoys the twist on the ol' "there are good black people and then there are n–…." except with cops now.

pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 15:30 (2 months ago) Permalink

This cop is so good, I don't even really think of him as a cop

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 20 April 2015 15:33 (2 months ago) Permalink

Know something funny? One of my favorite tee-vee shows? NYPD Blue.

pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 15:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

That neighborhood isn't bad, but it's a little blue if you know what I mean.

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 20 April 2015 16:38 (2 months ago) Permalink

Meant to post this earlier, but there's a housing development in the "rural" fringes of the LA area called Plantation on the Lake. I can just image the meeting when they were deciding on the name.

"What can we do to make this attract a, errrm, paler clientele?

http://plantationonthelake.com/

nickn, Monday, 20 April 2015 17:22 (2 months ago) Permalink

Guess which "tradition" the headline means:

http://www.knoxnews.com/knoxville/life/cinderella-moment-debutante-balls-strive-to-preserve-tradition-civility_76395622

While there is no application process — the Dogwood Ball is by invitation only — there are at least three criteria young women must meet to be considered: they must be sophomores in college and unmarried. They also must be white. Trent said she does not see a problem with the event being segregated.

“I think it’s beautiful that (the local AKA chapter) has started their own for their girls,” she says.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 20 April 2015 17:33 (2 months ago) Permalink

There are lots and lots of Plantation subdivisions, most of them POAs, unsurprisingly.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Riverstone-Plantation-SubdivisionForsyth-County/107095289319155

http://www.plantationtampahoa.com/outside_home.asp

http://www.siennaplantation.com/

pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 18:27 (2 months ago) Permalink

I mean, yeah, talk about a word with a historically racist connotation, but on the other hand it's generic enough where I'll take it over anything named after Jefferson Davis or Nathaniel Bedford Forrest.

pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 18:29 (2 months ago) Permalink

It seems like it would be less likely to be used in California, kind of startled me when I drove past the billboard.

nickn, Monday, 20 April 2015 19:10 (2 months ago) Permalink

the "rural" fringes of the LA area called Plantation on the Lake.

Good Lord, thought you meant Louisiana.

pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 21:48 (2 months ago) Permalink

Makes more sense your way, I give you that.

pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 21:49 (2 months ago) Permalink

me too, and I sadly kind of figured it was possible xp

mh, Monday, 20 April 2015 21:49 (2 months ago) Permalink

ignorance about the historic baggage of "plantation"
vs.
knowing about it and thinking plantations are a beautiful part of the antebellum south, shut your mouth about that slavery thing

mh, Monday, 20 April 2015 21:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

^^^ the exact conundrum that grosses me out so much about Lady Antebellum

bernard snowy, Monday, 20 April 2015 22:13 (2 months ago) Permalink

I always wonder if people are going to assume Louisiana when I type LA (and Canada when I type CA). I should get into the habit of being more explicit on national/international forums.

nickn, Monday, 20 April 2015 23:54 (2 months ago) Permalink

tbf I assumed Louisiana because I've been to a place that had "plantation" in the name there, but it seems uncommon for California

then again, the place in Louisiana was a former plantation that had slaves

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 00:44 (2 months ago) Permalink

It's cool. I don't think anyone ever thought Randy Newman was singing about Bastrop.

Just seeing LA in context with plantation... No, la ciudad de los angeles was not my first thought.

pplains, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 00:46 (2 months ago) Permalink

I know, right?!?

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 00:52 (2 months ago) Permalink

L.A. also means "Lower Arkansas" or this place:

Locations I'd expect to find in the "Plantation Places" Jeopardy category much faster than I would expect Los Alamitios.

pplains, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 01:03 (2 months ago) Permalink

Although if you had followed my link you would have seen it was California (hee hee). I didn't want to call out Riverside county because it gets tarred with the "white trash" moniker too much. For locals, this is off the 10 between Redlands and Beaumont.

nickn, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 04:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

Also, I don't think I've ever seen anything called "plantation" out here, ever. It was a minor WTF moment for me.

nickn, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 04:51 (2 months ago) Permalink

I did follow the link but only looked at the images

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 13:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

pplains, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 13:55 (2 months ago) Permalink


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