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Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

obv the answer is "the dude who directed the new Kings of Leon video, whose name somehow has not yet made it to the bits of the Internet you can hit within 5 minutes of using Google"

(that more than anything else is making me lol, like whoever this was basically went "I'll do this for you and it will be awesome! I don't want any credit tho" *waits for shitstorm*)

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

carles is slippin -- passion pit already did the "hire a choir of underprivileged minority youths" thing

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

he's not even listed on the mtv site, which is usually v good about putting directors up in there

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

gonna lol if it was Hype Williams

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

the video and song are both unmentionably terrible w/ stupid and retrograde notions about race but i don't think they are simply ~racist~

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Sophie Muller directed it.

Kerm, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

more offensive for not being funny

bnw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

that was a fake

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

but it was racist because someone realized that they could spell "nigger" by a video game and they set up a soccer video game and took a photo of it and sent it all over the internet

so yes, racist

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

this isn't a thread for lol racism, fyi. keep that shit to "encyclopedia of racist products" or, like, 4chan

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

strictly concern trolling in here.

Kerm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

I figured it was some soccer thing. Wouldn't have been surprised if it had been real.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

love the gawker update where they act like they understood the joke from the beginning

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

barf

maybe LJ is right about ilx being the smartest message board

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://hipsterhitler.com/

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

gawker isnt a message board

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

ilx is my favorite blog

markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

MIXMASTER
RACE

EASTSIDE
WESTSIDE
GENOCIDE

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc

I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions

4 my muthafuckin mods (crüt), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.

Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

are the finns a race?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.

Guess they didn't have Google then either.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),

jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

zorn smash

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

is this chorus racist?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

?

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://dasracist.net/

am0n, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

idk singing about sippin syrup like three 6 and getting "slizzered"

it's a bit 3oh3 minstrel

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

i can def see that

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Man, if it's wrong to make fun of people who drink cough syrup to get high, I don't wanna get high.

doobieborther, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

How does all the lol ghetto retard stuff on lamebook.com fit into this thread? Not sure if I'd rather it be real or fake.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think a bunch of well-off white people looking at it on their MacBook Pros and laughing at it through a mouthful of Whole Foods salad bar is pretty racist

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

glad I'm broke, on a dell, and had chili for lunch then.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

black people eat Whole Foods salad bar, too

sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

so like, on a pitchfork scale of 0.0 to 10.0, where 10.0 is a lynching, and 0.0 is Martin Luther King Jr. enjoying a cup of coffee while making breakfast, in his pajamas, humming a soft song to himself, where would the MacBook Pro thing fall? where does this comment fall?

I think this thread, while started with the noblest of intentions, has been a failure. And the reason I believe it has failed is that we (as a society) are so resigned to simply declaring something racist or not, as if it's binary, instead of attempting to quantify exactly how racist something really is, using numerical scales.

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

that scene from Louie where the school bus breaks down in Harlem and he reassigns the black kids the window seats: greater than 1.2?

*folds hands, rests elbows on desk, places chin on fingertips, looks up and slightly to the left, thinks*

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think you've anticipated an exciting new direction for Pitchfork Reviews Reviews

sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

God, this fucking thread. Is this racist? Is it? Well? I need something to be outraged about, fuckin' tell me!!! Ugh.

SourPatchCorpse, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

i dont think anyone is really all that outraged tbh

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Was Dr. King's morning coffee fair trade or unregulated?

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

Exactly, this thread isn't about being outraged at these things, it's about discussing them, and learning from them, and analyzing peoples motivations, gaining valuable insight into contemporary race relations, and proposing solutions for a more equitable society. Which is why it is essentially ineffectual, and why we should focus on merely assigning submitted material a score.

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

we can't be sure, can we, so let's kick it up to 0.8

('_') (omar little), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

xp that is not for me, as a MacBook Pro owner, to say

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

jk i don't really own one of those racist fuckin computers ;p

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

venti frap all over the keyboard

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 20:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

That's a noble first post though.

There has to be something between that and "Is this white couple and their cooking tome entitled Thug Kitchen racist?"

pplains, Monday, 29 September 2014 21:58 (2 days ago) Permalink

"Coming up, a Parkay commercial in which little children run around a dining room table so fast, they turn into butter. But first – shots fired in Ferguson, Mo. for a second time this evening..."

pplains, Monday, 29 September 2014 22:01 (2 days ago) Permalink

What is Parkay? How does it compare to Crisco

, Monday, 29 September 2014 22:03 (2 days ago) Permalink

crisco doesn't talk

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 September 2014 22:13 (2 days ago) Permalink

lol person on [interent blogger I like]'s comment feed says, "Guys if we keep hammering on them we'll never get to see the sequel: "Ghetto Cookin'" so basically djp ahead by an hour.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Monday, 29 September 2014 22:31 (2 days ago) Permalink

tbf I think DJP's version is jaw-droopingly better

⌘-B (mh), Monday, 29 September 2014 23:18 (2 days ago) Permalink

droppingly

⌘-B (mh), Monday, 29 September 2014 23:18 (2 days ago) Permalink

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 29 September 2014 23:40 (2 days ago) Permalink

Make the slaw:
Cut the cabbage into the thinnest strips you can and make sure those pieces are no longer than 2 inches. This is a great time to get good with your knife if you are looking for a silver f**king lining in all that chopping. Chop the carrot into thin matchsticks of the same length. Got that s**t down now, right? In a small bowl, mix together the lime juice, vinegar, oil, and salt. Add the dressing right before you are going to eat and toss that s**t well. Fold in the cilantro just before serving.

Make the tacos:
Crank your oven to 400°F. Chop the cauliflower into small florets no bigger than a quarter. In a saucepan over medium heat, warm the beer, broth, lime juice, tamari, hot sauce, and garlic. Add the cauliflower and simmer for about 90 seconds. Drain.

In a large bowl. toss the spices, salt, and olive oil together. Add the cauliflower and onion and stir 'til those f**kers are coated. Dump it on a rimmed baking sheet and bake until browned, stirring halfway, about 20 minutes.

To assemble the tacos, warm the tortillas in the oven or microwave for a hot minute and then pile them high with the cauliflower filling, slices of avocado, some of the slaw, and top with plenty of salsa.


1. this is just horrible dear lord how did they get a book deal
2. racism is one of the most successful marketing techniques around and that's all this is -- "thug kitchen" will get so many much more interest at williams sonoma than "recipes with awkward cursing"

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 29 September 2014 23:44 (2 days ago) Permalink

so many much yes yes yes

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 29 September 2014 23:45 (2 days ago) Permalink

this just seems like a lot of gratuitous swearing, and that's the whole schtick...? I dunno. why would anyone read this.

your fucking dinner

nickn, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 01:09 (Yesterday) Permalink

Coming up, a Parkay commercial in which little children run around a dining room table so fast, they turn into butter.

Wait, this isn't real, right? There's no way they made my grandma an ad exec – she just died a few months ago.

King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 01:11 (Yesterday) Permalink

Sarah Jessica Parker stars as Sarah Daniels, a Lancaster schoolteacher who developed a deep prejudice against minorities, especially blacks. She decided to relocate to Belmont, Vermont, with the hopes that it will be 'all white', and gets hired in Belmont College. She does not disclose her past to anyone, but when an African-American student, Simon Brick, becomes the victim of hate crime, she soon realizes that not only will her past return to haunt her, she will be expected to be the liaison person for the minorities, as well as be asked to prepare a 10-point bullet-ed list to resolve racism.

pplains, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 02:08 (Yesterday) Permalink

Coming in Spring 2009

pplains, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 02:10 (Yesterday) Permalink

pplains, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 02:13 (Yesterday) Permalink

little children run around a dining room table so fast, they turn into butter.

i'm not sure I get this.

Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 03:30 (Yesterday) Permalink

yeah, i grew up with that book sad to say

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 03:37 (Yesterday) Permalink

To answer the thread question, yes, it's racist.

SJP starring as a racist teacher who's forced to write a ten-bullet essay for Bubba Gump on how to resolve racism in Vermont? I dunno, could go either way on that one.

pplains, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 03:44 (Yesterday) Permalink

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $8,064
Domestic Summary
Opening Weekend: $5,534
(#79 rank, 4 theaters, $1,384 average)
% of Total Gross: 68.6%

Widest Release: 4 theaters
Close Date: April 2, 2009
In Release: 7 days / 1 weeks

salthigh, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 04:02 (Yesterday) Permalink

I have my own personal rant about how that kind of cliched film reifies the stance that a passionate teacher fixes every SES problem and reverses all historical baggage
thank u nice wite ladies for JOURNALING even with TEEN PREGNINCE

King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 04:25 (Yesterday) Permalink

that's why we don't deserve due process and everything is tied to test scores

blah blha blah inappropriate place to rant

King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 04:26 (Yesterday) Permalink

Also srsly no

King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 04:26 (Yesterday) Permalink

1. this is just horrible dear lord how did they get a book deal

Man, there are so many terrible blog cookbooks coming out. I think the problem is DSLRs and print on demand - a publisher has little reason but their good name not to publish the book for a hot blog. No advance needed, they'll do the photography themselves, only bother with an e-book and Amazon, they'll do all the marketing themselves by partnering with other blogs and running contests and whatever other shit they learned from the Four Hour Workweek, then you as the publisher just make whatever little bit of money there is in the deal.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 04:59 (Yesterday) Permalink

Didn't realize you hated Hipster Puppies that much

, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:32 (Yesterday) Permalink

I guess I liked to think there was a real Black dude from I dunno East Flatbush or something who was THAT into healthy eating as a from of subversive self-care.

― Orson Wellies (in orbit), 29. syyskuuta 2014 23:47 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:16 (Yesterday) Permalink

I want the names and addresses of those four theaters.

pplains, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:42 (Yesterday) Permalink

i saw thug kitchen once on facebook and assumed it was some white ppl, seemed really racist on the face of, without this "unmasking"

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 14:22 (Yesterday) Permalink

I guess my issue is that it's not like black people HIDE when they do stuff like this, so the complete lack of actual physical presence should be taken as a 95% indicator that here be non-black people

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 14:26 (Yesterday) Permalink

dont see whats racist about it
ordered a thug kitchen 'stop snitchen' tshirt for my nephew from their etsy page last year
here in upscale MA suburbia vegan fusion is breaking in a big way right now

Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 14:26 (Yesterday) Permalink

you almost had me until that last bit, nakh

⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 14:30 (Yesterday) Permalink

"No snitchin' in the kitchen" aprons, STICHED in Olde English font.... Etsy.com, www.youre-really-clicking-on-this?.com19

pplains, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 14:35 (Yesterday) Permalink


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