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It reminded me of a generic John Cougar Mellencamp video. Had they been white kids, it would've looked like 70% of the videos on CMT.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Still waiting for an apology.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

obv the answer is "the dude who directed the new Kings of Leon video, whose name somehow has not yet made it to the bits of the Internet you can hit within 5 minutes of using Google"

(that more than anything else is making me lol, like whoever this was basically went "I'll do this for you and it will be awesome! I don't want any credit tho" *waits for shitstorm*)

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

carles is slippin -- passion pit already did the "hire a choir of underprivileged minority youths" thing

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

he's not even listed on the mtv site, which is usually v good about putting directors up in there

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

gonna lol if it was Hype Williams

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

the video and song are both unmentionably terrible w/ stupid and retrograde notions about race but i don't think they are simply ~racist~

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sophie Muller directed it.

Kerm, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

more offensive for not being funny

bnw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

that was a fake

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

but it was racist because someone realized that they could spell "nigger" by a video game and they set up a soccer video game and took a photo of it and sent it all over the internet

so yes, racist

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

this isn't a thread for lol racism, fyi. keep that shit to "encyclopedia of racist products" or, like, 4chan

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

strictly concern trolling in here.

Kerm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

I figured it was some soccer thing. Wouldn't have been surprised if it had been real.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

love the gawker update where they act like they understood the joke from the beginning

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

barf

maybe LJ is right about ilx being the smartest message board

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://hipsterhitler.com/

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

gawker isnt a message board

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

ilx is my favorite blog

markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

MIXMASTER
RACE

EASTSIDE
WESTSIDE
GENOCIDE

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc

I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions

4 my muthafuckin mods (crüt), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.

Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

are the finns a race?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.

Guess they didn't have Google then either.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),

jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

zorn smash

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

is this chorus racist?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

?

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://dasracist.net/

am0n, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

idk singing about sippin syrup like three 6 and getting "slizzered"

it's a bit 3oh3 minstrel

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

i can def see that

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

Man, if it's wrong to make fun of people who drink cough syrup to get high, I don't wanna get high.

doobieborther, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

How does all the lol ghetto retard stuff on lamebook.com fit into this thread? Not sure if I'd rather it be real or fake.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think a bunch of well-off white people looking at it on their MacBook Pros and laughing at it through a mouthful of Whole Foods salad bar is pretty racist

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

glad I'm broke, on a dell, and had chili for lunch then.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

black people eat Whole Foods salad bar, too

sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

so like, on a pitchfork scale of 0.0 to 10.0, where 10.0 is a lynching, and 0.0 is Martin Luther King Jr. enjoying a cup of coffee while making breakfast, in his pajamas, humming a soft song to himself, where would the MacBook Pro thing fall? where does this comment fall?

I think this thread, while started with the noblest of intentions, has been a failure. And the reason I believe it has failed is that we (as a society) are so resigned to simply declaring something racist or not, as if it's binary, instead of attempting to quantify exactly how racist something really is, using numerical scales.

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

that scene from Louie where the school bus breaks down in Harlem and he reassigns the black kids the window seats: greater than 1.2?

*folds hands, rests elbows on desk, places chin on fingertips, looks up and slightly to the left, thinks*

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think you've anticipated an exciting new direction for Pitchfork Reviews Reviews

sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

God, this fucking thread. Is this racist? Is it? Well? I need something to be outraged about, fuckin' tell me!!! Ugh.

SourPatchCorpse, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

i dont think anyone is really all that outraged tbh

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Was Dr. King's morning coffee fair trade or unregulated?

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

Exactly, this thread isn't about being outraged at these things, it's about discussing them, and learning from them, and analyzing peoples motivations, gaining valuable insight into contemporary race relations, and proposing solutions for a more equitable society. Which is why it is essentially ineffectual, and why we should focus on merely assigning submitted material a score.

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

we can't be sure, can we, so let's kick it up to 0.8

('_') (omar little), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

xp that is not for me, as a MacBook Pro owner, to say

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

wtf

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 13 March 2014 16:27 (1 month ago) Permalink

paul ryan may eat portion of my genitals

rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Thursday, 13 March 2014 19:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

that reads like a highly undesirable headline

rob, Thursday, 13 March 2014 21:17 (1 month ago) Permalink

Is this racist?

"Jiggle It" - 2 in a Zoo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 19 March 2014 17:47 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

I am not qualified to really judge, but I am going to say: no

have a nice blood (mh), Wednesday, 19 March 2014 20:08 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

I hold some certification, my instincts say no.

tsrobodo, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 20:36 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

you've got to be shitting me

― HI DERE, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:52 (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I doubt anyone can find a better piece of football memorablia.

― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:52 (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a Luke Chadwick one would've been better.

― blueski, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:57 (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 20:51 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

Girl from HS I'm friends with is married to a Chinese guy and keeps referring to her fetus as the egg roll and they announced it's a boy by writing that on a Chinese takeaway box. He's obv in on it but every single time she does this, and she does it a lot, I'm like oh, girl.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 00:57 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

yuuuuuk that is not right

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 01:13 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

is he actually ok with it in a "ok yeah this is funny" kind of way or a "ehhh I'm not really down with this but it's my wife and I love her so I'll let it slide" kinda way? gotta imagine that would start to wear on him quickly.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 01:17 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

that is disgusting!

sent from my butt (harbl), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 01:20 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Haha that makes me think of

1:23

, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 01:22 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

lol

have a nice blood (mh), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 01:40 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Mordy , Tuesday, 25 March 2014 06:09 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

What is that

Walter Galt, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 14:51 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Nick Cannon. m0rdy in troll attempt shockah

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 14:54 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Nick Cannon, who has never heard of Eddie Murphy or Dave Chappelle or the Wayans Bros., in "whiteface," which he thinks he invented.

bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 14:55 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Dave Chappelle in whiteface is still one of the creepiest and funniest things I've seen on basic cable.

pplains, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 14:59 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Is it racist for a European white man to call another European white man a "fucking refugee"?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26909889

Obviously it has all the "fuck off back to your own country" hallmarks of a xenophobic cunt but I'm not sure it qualifies as racist if you say it to someone the same colour as you?

(Griffiths also has previous form in actually telling a non-white fellow Scot to fuck off back to his own country so fuck him tbh)

two bunny rabbits on mushrooms singing Proclaimers songs (onimo), Monday, 7 April 2014 16:15 (1 week ago) Permalink

hutus & tutsis look pretty similar. it's obviously based on some assumed difference/otherness, race isn't an idea that withstands much interrogation, but what else are you going to call it? will it make a difference other than to shield ppl of painful accusations of racism?

ogmor, Monday, 7 April 2014 16:32 (1 week ago) Permalink

I certainly wouldn't claim what he said was functionally less than racism just because I supported his team.

The Whittrick and Puddock (dowd), Monday, 7 April 2014 19:46 (1 week ago) Permalink

I have no particular interest in parsing his assholitude. If it's not as bad as racism (?), it's certainly a step in the direction of denying someone their basic humanity.

"...telling a non-white fellow Scot to fuck off back to his own country so fuck him tbh..." Given that Scot is Latin for Irish, maybe he should do just that, himself, and leave Caledonia to the Picts.

già, ya, déjà, ja, yeah, whatever... (Michael White), Monday, 7 April 2014 21:17 (1 week ago) Permalink

^ never far from a paddybash, this lad

recommend me a new bagman (darraghmac), Monday, 7 April 2014 21:57 (1 week ago) Permalink

I grew up in terrible parts of Scotland - like Leigh Griffiths, I suppose, though my face survived - where everyone was kind of racist, including me, because they knew nothing of the world. It's likely Griffiths didn't even think about the words he was singing, he seems so stupid. I remember, though, that at school "refugee" was an insult based more on poverty than race: you are a refugee and you wear shit clothes; you are scruffy and your parents don't work. Poor people hunting the even poorer. I think Griffiths should be fired for sure, but if he is he will never really understand why, and he will get a different job.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 7 April 2014 23:08 (1 week ago) Permalink

I certainly wouldn't claim what he said was functionally less than racism just because I supported his team.

I don't recall claiming that at all. I think it's odd that every report is saying that a white Scotsman calling a white Czech a refugee is racist and thought it worth discussing.

I also pointed out his previous obvious racism and didn't support him in any way whatsoever.

There are people who support his team who refer to anti-Irish singing as racist and I think that's questionable too, despite a Scottish judge defining it as such.

two bunny rabbits on mushrooms singing Proclaimers songs (onimo), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 00:02 (1 week ago) Permalink

When you get a 10-20k a week wage, that is the point you leave all this sectarian bigotry behind forever - if you have a brain. I bet even some of LG's friends from the vid secretly think he is a fucking idiot.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 00:51 (1 week ago) Permalink

It's more of a 'if it looks like a duck' thing. Defining racism only in terms of constructed 'races' is to be caught in a chicken/egg problem. I think it makes more sense to look at racism as an ideological process which seeks to 'other' groups of people. Really, I don't care - it was clearly a terrible thing to say. I mean, I'm a working class Scot as well, and to claim that such divides are sectarian, when two atheists can hate each other based on surnames or hair colour or accents seems perverse to me. I don't know if it's 'racism' per se, but that seems to be to focus on narrow definitions rather than how beliefs actually function in the way that they divide and devalue sections of humanity. 'Refugee', like 'Immigrant', is a pre-racialised term - when someone says 'immigrant' they rarely mean American or Australian students or workers etc. - it's reserved for certain groups, and currently eastern European workers fall into that category.

The Whittrick and Puddock (dowd), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 05:12 (1 week ago) Permalink

(A similar issue is the islamophobic insistence than Muslims are not a race - when they know fine well that if they asked children to draw a picture of a Muslim they would draw a 'brown' person, and assume people's religious affiliation from their ethnic appearance)

The Whittrick and Puddock (dowd), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 05:19 (1 week ago) Permalink

(Also, to claim that 'Slavic' people are uncomplicatedly 'white' is to ignor some Very Important parts of 20th century history)

The Whittrick and Puddock (dowd), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 05:30 (1 week ago) Permalink

(Anyway, Onimo, I should apologise - I wasn't meaning to imply that your sports affiliation was clouding your judgement. I'm just drunkenly carrying on a drunken argument from the pub earlier, by proxy. I fear I didn't make myself understood then, as now. Anyway, four posts in a row, NAGL...)

The Whittrick and Puddock (dowd), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 05:52 (1 week ago) Permalink

The thread title popped into my head when I checked the "about" page on the ad agency's site and noticed every person shown is young and white which makes this feel a bit off to me.

joygoat, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 20:55 (3 days ago) Permalink

4th rate sub-Putney Swope bullshit

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 21:07 (3 days ago) Permalink

makes me miss Putney Swope somehow

Nhex, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 21:31 (3 days ago) Permalink


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