rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

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for reference:

She's blonde,
She's blonde,
Comes along the sidewalk.

She's Blonde,
Leave a trail of blue and black,
Up to you fighting back.

She's Blonde,
Steel chains,
A noose of charms on our necks.

I find out nothing when we talk and sit,
Blue heart passion and watch the set.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away,
Cheaters walk, down the block behind this evil street.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl-

Nineteen,
Nineteen.. losing her man to an old girl.

Nineteen,
Drain every beer left over at home,
and listen to ghosts in the other room.

I Can't!
Why not? You're alone inside his keeping.

Oh I'll replace your drunk old man,
Sit in the parking lot and hold your hand.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
Drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl-

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl

having just finished re-reading We Got the Neutron Bomb my guess is this song is about the young lady that Exene moved out to California with, who was by all accounts something of a bitch who would pull white-supremacist provacateur type stuff to get a rise out of people.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

blanking on her name at the moment.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

Not racist. Someone else could make the argument for exploitative, but it's a stretch to say that the Kings of Leon have any hatred or intolerance toward black people.

Now apologize for making me watch a Kings of Leon video for two minutes.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think it's hard to call a music video 'exploitative' -- what are they exploiting these kids for? no one watches music videos. they have no impact, unless you're lady gaga

colonialist maybe, but remember that KOL are the most popular band in europe

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

racist, clearly not

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

would've preferred video featuring band being murdered by black kids

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

It reminded me of a generic John Cougar Mellencamp video. Had they been white kids, it would've looked like 70% of the videos on CMT.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Still waiting for an apology.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

obv the answer is "the dude who directed the new Kings of Leon video, whose name somehow has not yet made it to the bits of the Internet you can hit within 5 minutes of using Google"

(that more than anything else is making me lol, like whoever this was basically went "I'll do this for you and it will be awesome! I don't want any credit tho" *waits for shitstorm*)

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

carles is slippin -- passion pit already did the "hire a choir of underprivileged minority youths" thing

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

he's not even listed on the mtv site, which is usually v good about putting directors up in there

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

gonna lol if it was Hype Williams

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

the video and song are both unmentionably terrible w/ stupid and retrograde notions about race but i don't think they are simply ~racist~

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Sophie Muller directed it.

Kerm, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

more offensive for not being funny

bnw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

that was a fake

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

but it was racist because someone realized that they could spell "nigger" by a video game and they set up a soccer video game and took a photo of it and sent it all over the internet

so yes, racist

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

this isn't a thread for lol racism, fyi. keep that shit to "encyclopedia of racist products" or, like, 4chan

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

strictly concern trolling in here.

Kerm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

I figured it was some soccer thing. Wouldn't have been surprised if it had been real.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

love the gawker update where they act like they understood the joke from the beginning

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

barf

maybe LJ is right about ilx being the smartest message board

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://hipsterhitler.com/

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

gawker isnt a message board

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

ilx is my favorite blog

markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

MIXMASTER
RACE

EASTSIDE
WESTSIDE
GENOCIDE

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc

I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions

4 my muthafuckin mods (crüt), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.

Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

are the finns a race?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.

Guess they didn't have Google then either.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),

jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

zorn smash

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

is this chorus racist?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

?

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://dasracist.net/

am0n, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

idk singing about sippin syrup like three 6 and getting "slizzered"

it's a bit 3oh3 minstrel

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

i can def see that

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Man, if it's wrong to make fun of people who drink cough syrup to get high, I don't wanna get high.

doobieborther, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

How does all the lol ghetto retard stuff on lamebook.com fit into this thread? Not sure if I'd rather it be real or fake.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think a bunch of well-off white people looking at it on their MacBook Pros and laughing at it through a mouthful of Whole Foods salad bar is pretty racist

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

glad I'm broke, on a dell, and had chili for lunch then.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

black people eat Whole Foods salad bar, too

sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

so like, on a pitchfork scale of 0.0 to 10.0, where 10.0 is a lynching, and 0.0 is Martin Luther King Jr. enjoying a cup of coffee while making breakfast, in his pajamas, humming a soft song to himself, where would the MacBook Pro thing fall? where does this comment fall?

I think this thread, while started with the noblest of intentions, has been a failure. And the reason I believe it has failed is that we (as a society) are so resigned to simply declaring something racist or not, as if it's binary, instead of attempting to quantify exactly how racist something really is, using numerical scales.

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

pplains, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 02:13 (2 days ago) Permalink

little children run around a dining room table so fast, they turn into butter.

i'm not sure I get this.

Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 03:30 (2 days ago) Permalink

yeah, i grew up with that book sad to say

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 03:37 (2 days ago) Permalink

To answer the thread question, yes, it's racist.

SJP starring as a racist teacher who's forced to write a ten-bullet essay for Bubba Gump on how to resolve racism in Vermont? I dunno, could go either way on that one.

pplains, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 03:44 (2 days ago) Permalink

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $8,064
Domestic Summary
Opening Weekend: $5,534
(#79 rank, 4 theaters, $1,384 average)
% of Total Gross: 68.6%

Widest Release: 4 theaters
Close Date: April 2, 2009
In Release: 7 days / 1 weeks

salthigh, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 04:02 (2 days ago) Permalink

I have my own personal rant about how that kind of cliched film reifies the stance that a passionate teacher fixes every SES problem and reverses all historical baggage
thank u nice wite ladies for JOURNALING even with TEEN PREGNINCE

King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 04:25 (2 days ago) Permalink

that's why we don't deserve due process and everything is tied to test scores

blah blha blah inappropriate place to rant

King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 04:26 (2 days ago) Permalink

Also srsly no

King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 04:26 (2 days ago) Permalink

1. this is just horrible dear lord how did they get a book deal

Man, there are so many terrible blog cookbooks coming out. I think the problem is DSLRs and print on demand - a publisher has little reason but their good name not to publish the book for a hot blog. No advance needed, they'll do the photography themselves, only bother with an e-book and Amazon, they'll do all the marketing themselves by partnering with other blogs and running contests and whatever other shit they learned from the Four Hour Workweek, then you as the publisher just make whatever little bit of money there is in the deal.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 04:59 (2 days ago) Permalink

Didn't realize you hated Hipster Puppies that much

龜, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:32 (2 days ago) Permalink

I guess I liked to think there was a real Black dude from I dunno East Flatbush or something who was THAT into healthy eating as a from of subversive self-care.

― Orson Wellies (in orbit), 29. syyskuuta 2014 23:47 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:16 (2 days ago) Permalink

I want the names and addresses of those four theaters.

pplains, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:42 (2 days ago) Permalink

i saw thug kitchen once on facebook and assumed it was some white ppl, seemed really racist on the face of, without this "unmasking"

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 14:22 (2 days ago) Permalink

I guess my issue is that it's not like black people HIDE when they do stuff like this, so the complete lack of actual physical presence should be taken as a 95% indicator that here be non-black people

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 14:26 (2 days ago) Permalink

dont see whats racist about it
ordered a thug kitchen 'stop snitchen' tshirt for my nephew from their etsy page last year
here in upscale MA suburbia vegan fusion is breaking in a big way right now

Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 14:26 (2 days ago) Permalink

you almost had me until that last bit, nakh

⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 14:30 (2 days ago) Permalink

"No snitchin' in the kitchen" aprons, STICHED in Olde English font.... Etsy.com, www.youre-really-clicking-on-this?.com19

pplains, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 14:35 (2 days ago) Permalink

The Herald is so bad that this verges on being a non-story

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 21:37 (Yesterday) Permalink

xp to Tuomas

Oh. The person I wrote that comment to also made a Dead Prez reference but I assumed she meant Dead Presidents and I didn't follow that up with any more thoughts.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 21:37 (Yesterday) Permalink

hey nakh how do you feel about pampered chef

mattresslessness, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 21:39 (Yesterday) Permalink

Pretty sure Jerry Holbert's going to be rated around No. 50 or so in the ILX Comics poll.

pplains, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 21:40 (Yesterday) Permalink

idk pampered chef is not really a thing around here in liberal ma, it is also a wholly owned subsidiary of berkshire hathaway which is not a good look for me right now
super into rad scandinavian food right now and watching anything related to noma on youtube
rene redzepi is just multiple iterations of next level

Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 21:50 (Yesterday) Permalink

my sister threw a pampered chef party and we bought a couple of things

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 21:57 (Yesterday) Permalink

xp the newer bourdain show (parts unknown?) did a pretty good ep on noma if you haven't already checked it out

i want proof that dude's kids were actually using watermelon toothpaste

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 22:03 (Yesterday) Permalink

tbh I've almost bought the kids watermelon toothpaste a few times when looking for travel sized toothpaste

Other flavors I passed on: bubblegum

This was in China tho

龜, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 22:06 (Yesterday) Permalink

bozack horseman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 22:41 (Yesterday) Permalink

why didn't this cartoonist thought of fried chicken toothpaste

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 22:42 (Yesterday) Permalink

the thing I love is that the cartoonist straight up came forward and realized he maybe picked the wrong fruit, but the Boston Herald went with that old college newspaper standard of HE WAS JUST SATIRIZING RACISM SOMEHOW every time some kid doodles a sambo

bozack horseman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 22:44 (Yesterday) Permalink

very constructive post (xpost)

example (crüt), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 22:45 (Yesterday) Permalink

Cartoon was at that level of stupidity and ignorance.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 22:48 (Yesterday) Permalink

I know you all aren't saying "Well, here's an example of watermelon toothpaste. I don't know what the big deal is." I know this, right?

pplains, Thursday, 2 October 2014 01:07 (11 hours ago) Permalink

Yeah but why sink to that level xp

龜, Thursday, 2 October 2014 01:10 (11 hours ago) Permalink

fair enough

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 October 2014 01:38 (10 hours ago) Permalink

I would've all wrote "Hey, Obama! Figure a Socialist like you would be using Arm & Hammer!"

pplains, Thursday, 2 October 2014 02:37 (9 hours ago) Permalink

pplains, Thursday, 2 October 2014 02:37 (9 hours ago) Permalink

I feel that was half-hearted but I will always root for Osama thumbs-up

⌘-B (mh), Thursday, 2 October 2014 04:04 (8 hours ago) Permalink

my wife found some notes on a comedy sketch in progress (or is it an actual starbucks order???) on the ground by an apartment building up the street.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 2 October 2014 05:01 (7 hours ago) Permalink

hey guys i've got a comedy idea, the Warsaw 'ghetto'. its poland in 1942 and the jews of warsaw have been herded into appalling conditions in a tiny quarter of the city but instead of being starved and terrified they're all like 'thuglife, bee-yatch' lol

intelligent, expressive males within the greater metropolitan (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 2 October 2014 09:40 (2 hours ago) Permalink

carmel machiado for me please

kinder, Thursday, 2 October 2014 09:43 (2 hours ago) Permalink

don't gimme Any a dat

intelligent, expressive males within the greater metropolitan (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 2 October 2014 09:43 (2 hours ago) Permalink


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