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I dunno if its racist but its certainly unlistenable crap

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh dude, I always wonder about this one: "White Girl" by X. what the fuck is up with that? Has John Doe ever addressed it?

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

also, this thread is not just for songs, but commercials, movies, tv shows, jpegs, assorted anything.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh word, noticed this is on I Love Everything.

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah I mean where the fuck is I Love Racism already

cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh dude, I always wonder about this one: "White Girl" by X. what the fuck is up with that? Has John Doe ever addressed it?

what do you think is racist about this song...?

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

Why's he talking about white girls?

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

for reference:

She's blonde,
She's blonde,
Comes along the sidewalk.

She's Blonde,
Leave a trail of blue and black,
Up to you fighting back.

She's Blonde,
Steel chains,
A noose of charms on our necks.

I find out nothing when we talk and sit,
Blue heart passion and watch the set.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away,
Cheaters walk, down the block behind this evil street.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl-

Nineteen,
Nineteen.. losing her man to an old girl.

Nineteen,
Drain every beer left over at home,
and listen to ghosts in the other room.

I Can't!
Why not? You're alone inside his keeping.

Oh I'll replace your drunk old man,
Sit in the parking lot and hold your hand.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
Drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl-

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl

having just finished re-reading We Got the Neutron Bomb my guess is this song is about the young lady that Exene moved out to California with, who was by all accounts something of a bitch who would pull white-supremacist provacateur type stuff to get a rise out of people.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

blanking on her name at the moment.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

Not racist. Someone else could make the argument for exploitative, but it's a stretch to say that the Kings of Leon have any hatred or intolerance toward black people.

Now apologize for making me watch a Kings of Leon video for two minutes.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think it's hard to call a music video 'exploitative' -- what are they exploiting these kids for? no one watches music videos. they have no impact, unless you're lady gaga

colonialist maybe, but remember that KOL are the most popular band in europe

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

racist, clearly not

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

would've preferred video featuring band being murdered by black kids

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

It reminded me of a generic John Cougar Mellencamp video. Had they been white kids, it would've looked like 70% of the videos on CMT.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Still waiting for an apology.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

obv the answer is "the dude who directed the new Kings of Leon video, whose name somehow has not yet made it to the bits of the Internet you can hit within 5 minutes of using Google"

(that more than anything else is making me lol, like whoever this was basically went "I'll do this for you and it will be awesome! I don't want any credit tho" *waits for shitstorm*)

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

carles is slippin -- passion pit already did the "hire a choir of underprivileged minority youths" thing

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

he's not even listed on the mtv site, which is usually v good about putting directors up in there

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

gonna lol if it was Hype Williams

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

the video and song are both unmentionably terrible w/ stupid and retrograde notions about race but i don't think they are simply ~racist~

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Sophie Muller directed it.

Kerm, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

more offensive for not being funny

bnw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

that was a fake

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

but it was racist because someone realized that they could spell "nigger" by a video game and they set up a soccer video game and took a photo of it and sent it all over the internet

so yes, racist

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

this isn't a thread for lol racism, fyi. keep that shit to "encyclopedia of racist products" or, like, 4chan

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

strictly concern trolling in here.

Kerm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

I figured it was some soccer thing. Wouldn't have been surprised if it had been real.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

love the gawker update where they act like they understood the joke from the beginning

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

barf

maybe LJ is right about ilx being the smartest message board

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://hipsterhitler.com/

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

gawker isnt a message board

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

ilx is my favorite blog

markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

MIXMASTER
RACE

EASTSIDE
WESTSIDE
GENOCIDE

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc

I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions

4 my muthafuckin mods (crüt), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.

Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

are the finns a race?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.

Guess they didn't have Google then either.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),

jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

zorn smash

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

is this chorus racist?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

?

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://dasracist.net/

am0n, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

idk singing about sippin syrup like three 6 and getting "slizzered"

it's a bit 3oh3 minstrel

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

a MP knowing who you are seems like a pretty good humblebrag

― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Monday, November 17, 2014 2:00 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not really. It was merely to illustrate that even someone who practically shakes hands for a living - a politician - couldn't bring himself to shake mine, even though we go back a bit. That is how Black Pete is dividing this shameful nation right now.

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Monday, 17 November 2014 18:10 (6 months ago) Permalink

On the mastermind box, from tvtropes:

The game was originally produced with box-art that seemed to suggest that "masterminds" would pose like James Bond villains and have Dragon Lady girlfriends

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Monday, 17 November 2014 18:14 (6 months ago) Permalink

good ol' tv tropes

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 17 November 2014 18:41 (6 months ago) Permalink

maybe this is just me but when I was a kid I thought they were both masterminds

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Monday, 17 November 2014 19:15 (6 months ago) Permalink

yeah I had that too and their identity/role was confounding - were these the people I was playing against (then shouldn't there only be one of them?) or were they opponents playing against each other? is that guy supposed to be some evil British colonialist etc

Οὖτις, Monday, 17 November 2014 19:22 (6 months ago) Permalink

My thought was "there's the male mastermind and the female mastermind and they are both challenging me; CHALLENGE ACCEPTED as soon as I can beat my older brother"

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Monday, 17 November 2014 19:29 (6 months ago) Permalink

Distinguished-looking Bill Woodward was then the owner of a chain of hairdressing salons

You know, I wasn't that far off.

pplains, Monday, 17 November 2014 19:33 (6 months ago) Permalink

lol @ the throwing in of a mystical asian. some bewildering semiotic terrain this game.

― difficult listening hour, Monday, November 17, 2014 5:20 PM (Yesterday)

isn't othello just a total ripoff of GO tho? not to justify; I am probably staring too much into the fucked up marketer's abyss?

never say goodbye before leaving chat room (Crabbits), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 01:24 (6 months ago) Permalink

mark s has some classic analysis of the various Mastermind boxes in this old thread - mastermind, the game

who cares? the moon sucks. (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 01:52 (6 months ago) Permalink

"gypsy cab"?

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 24 November 2014 16:47 (6 months ago) Permalink

Good catch - apologies for using that phrase

, Monday, 24 November 2014 16:50 (6 months ago) Permalink

Racism aside, I always thought it was pretty funny how they made a desperate attempt to sex up a game that is obviously quite dry.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 24 November 2014 16:54 (6 months ago) Permalink

It worked cause you guys all remember it! I'd even seen that cover before.

Nhex, Monday, 24 November 2014 17:10 (6 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

This is from a Danish childrens christmas show that is shown this year, a rerun from 17 years ago:

Sorta fits into the Black Pete discussion. It's also worth mentioning, that the confecture the children are dressed up as used to have a racist nickname. But apparantly, whether or not it is racist is actually up for debate in Denmark. Because, you know, all the - white - people in the clip are just having fun together.

Frederik B, Saturday, 13 December 2014 17:16 (5 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

im over a month late but re: the mastermind box, i too thought they were both examples of different kinds of masterminds that one might encounter

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Monday, 5 January 2015 17:56 (4 months ago) Permalink

*hi-five*

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Monday, 5 January 2015 19:26 (4 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Mayor Ramsey said the city's attorney, the clerk and the waste water treatment plant supervisor also turned in resignation letters citing "safety concerns."

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:25 (1 month ago) Permalink

working for a black woman apparently is unsafe in 2015 missouri. who knew?

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:36 (1 month ago) Permalink

Parma Police, a racist bunch of men

pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 03:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

I like the "they're not racist, they're a criminal conspiracy!" counter-narrative crawling out from under the usual white supremacist rocks. Here's a wacky idea: maybe both?

Three Word Username, Monday, 20 April 2015 08:07 (1 month ago) Permalink

For the past couple of weeks, one of my facebook friends (a high school buddy's spouse) has been posting up updates or comments like "they're not racist, they're just BAD POLICE. there are white police shooting black kids, black police shooting black kids, black police shooting white kids. why does everybody have to keep bringing race into this?" I've been biting my tongue pretty hard because she's my friends wife and like, I'm going to be charitable and imagine they are in disagreement about this already and hopefully having fights at home about it, but holy fuck.

fish or click bait (how's life), Monday, 20 April 2015 09:24 (1 month ago) Permalink

black black white white, what are you talking about RACE for?

kinder, Monday, 20 April 2015 10:05 (1 month ago) Permalink

a rainbow coalition of cops shooting people

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 20 April 2015 14:16 (1 month ago) Permalink

There's a small part of me that enjoys the twist on the ol' "there are good black people and then there are n–…." except with cops now.

pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 15:30 (1 month ago) Permalink

This cop is so good, I don't even really think of him as a cop

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 20 April 2015 15:33 (1 month ago) Permalink

Know something funny? One of my favorite tee-vee shows? NYPD Blue.

pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 15:50 (1 month ago) Permalink

That neighborhood isn't bad, but it's a little blue if you know what I mean.

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 20 April 2015 16:38 (1 month ago) Permalink

Meant to post this earlier, but there's a housing development in the "rural" fringes of the LA area called Plantation on the Lake. I can just image the meeting when they were deciding on the name.

"What can we do to make this attract a, errrm, paler clientele?

http://plantationonthelake.com/

nickn, Monday, 20 April 2015 17:22 (1 month ago) Permalink

Guess which "tradition" the headline means:

http://www.knoxnews.com/knoxville/life/cinderella-moment-debutante-balls-strive-to-preserve-tradition-civility_76395622

While there is no application process — the Dogwood Ball is by invitation only — there are at least three criteria young women must meet to be considered: they must be sophomores in college and unmarried. They also must be white. Trent said she does not see a problem with the event being segregated.

“I think it’s beautiful that (the local AKA chapter) has started their own for their girls,” she says.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 20 April 2015 17:33 (1 month ago) Permalink

There are lots and lots of Plantation subdivisions, most of them POAs, unsurprisingly.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Riverstone-Plantation-SubdivisionForsyth-County/107095289319155

http://www.plantationtampahoa.com/outside_home.asp

http://www.siennaplantation.com/

pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 18:27 (1 month ago) Permalink

I mean, yeah, talk about a word with a historically racist connotation, but on the other hand it's generic enough where I'll take it over anything named after Jefferson Davis or Nathaniel Bedford Forrest.

pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 18:29 (1 month ago) Permalink

It seems like it would be less likely to be used in California, kind of startled me when I drove past the billboard.

nickn, Monday, 20 April 2015 19:10 (1 month ago) Permalink

the "rural" fringes of the LA area called Plantation on the Lake.

Good Lord, thought you meant Louisiana.

pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 21:48 (1 month ago) Permalink

Makes more sense your way, I give you that.

pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 21:49 (1 month ago) Permalink

me too, and I sadly kind of figured it was possible xp

mh, Monday, 20 April 2015 21:49 (1 month ago) Permalink

ignorance about the historic baggage of "plantation"
vs.
knowing about it and thinking plantations are a beautiful part of the antebellum south, shut your mouth about that slavery thing

mh, Monday, 20 April 2015 21:50 (1 month ago) Permalink

^^^ the exact conundrum that grosses me out so much about Lady Antebellum

bernard snowy, Monday, 20 April 2015 22:13 (1 month ago) Permalink

I always wonder if people are going to assume Louisiana when I type LA (and Canada when I type CA). I should get into the habit of being more explicit on national/international forums.

nickn, Monday, 20 April 2015 23:54 (1 month ago) Permalink

tbf I assumed Louisiana because I've been to a place that had "plantation" in the name there, but it seems uncommon for California

then again, the place in Louisiana was a former plantation that had slaves

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 00:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

It's cool. I don't think anyone ever thought Randy Newman was singing about Bastrop.

Just seeing LA in context with plantation... No, la ciudad de los angeles was not my first thought.

pplains, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 00:46 (1 month ago) Permalink

I know, right?!?

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 00:52 (1 month ago) Permalink

L.A. also means "Lower Arkansas" or this place:

Locations I'd expect to find in the "Plantation Places" Jeopardy category much faster than I would expect Los Alamitios.

pplains, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 01:03 (1 month ago) Permalink

Although if you had followed my link you would have seen it was California (hee hee). I didn't want to call out Riverside county because it gets tarred with the "white trash" moniker too much. For locals, this is off the 10 between Redlands and Beaumont.

nickn, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 04:50 (1 month ago) Permalink

Also, I don't think I've ever seen anything called "plantation" out here, ever. It was a minor WTF moment for me.

nickn, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 04:51 (1 month ago) Permalink

I did follow the link but only looked at the images

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 13:50 (1 month ago) Permalink

pplains, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 13:55 (1 month ago) Permalink


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