2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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Biden will be in the headlines if he delivers any good zingers, which is possible.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

On the anniversary of the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history, Gov. Sarah Palin took a hard-line approach on national security and said that war with Russia may be necessary if that nation invades another country.

fun

dmr, Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

i liked some things about the 80's.

akm, Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

source that quote please

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5778018&page=1

carne asada, Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

hahahahaha oh man the fun begins

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

cuz what this country needs/wants is ANOTHER war, this time one with a nuclear power! YEAH!

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Dear Jesus, please let people start to realize how crazy Sarah Palin is. thank you, o. nate

o. nate, Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

good on gibson for leaning on her about the "god's plan" quote, he is a partisan hack 99.9% of the time and I wouldn't have expected him to bother.

akm, Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry, Nate, she and her peeps have all the prayer time booked from now til the 2nd coming.

Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

jesus christ she is so nutty

lex pretend, Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

we can invade by crossing the bering strait on a herd of moose!! Let's do it!

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Guys, this is Charlie Gibson. He's going to buckle under.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh man, I love that Citgo is the sponsor of that clip.

Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link

if he got obnoxious like O'RLY did with Obama, she would probably crack.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link

"You know I don't know if that was my exact quote -"
"Exact words."

Patrick Leahy, (D)-VT (deej), Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I like how that headline considers recommending that we got to war with Russia "hard line" and not "completely insane"

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 11 September 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/09/clinton_obama_w.html

Speaking briefly with reporters before their private lunch today in New York, Barack Obama and Bill Clinton voiced optimism about Obama's chances in the fall.

The two leading Democrats, whose relationship was less-than-warm during Obama's tough fight with Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary, dined together at Clinton's Harlem office. Asked for his assessment of the race, Clinton said, "I predict that Senator Obama will win and win pretty handily."

krots tphns (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 11 September 2008 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

please let people start to realize how crazy Sarah Palin is

jesus christ she is so nutty

I mean yeah she is nutz but it's not like she came up with War On Russia by herself, that's McCain's position as spoon-fed to her by his foreign policy advisers (i.e. guys who think Cheney is too liberal)

dmr, Thursday, 11 September 2008 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

yep - makes for an easy counter from Obama methinks

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 11 September 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Sarah Palin is a red herring & the Palin bump will not be a lasting one

krots tphns (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 11 September 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link

not saying Obama is invincible here but Shakey OTM - if Obama has at least a shred of competence (which he does and then some) this won't shake his campaign

krots tphns (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 11 September 2008 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Biden should leap on Palin's bullshit in this interview

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 11 September 2008 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link

ironically palin is also one half of a ticket which is headed by a guy who's about to die

DZL (deeznuts), Thursday, 11 September 2008 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link

so ironic

dmr, Thursday, 11 September 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Who asked about Joseph Biden?

Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., the Democrats’ vice presidential candidate, is an experienced, serious and smart man. But, boy, does he say some curious things. A day on the campaign trail without some cringe-inducing gaffe is a rare blessing. He has not been too blessed lately.

Just this week, he mused that Senator Barack Obama might have been better off with Hillary Rodham Clinton as his running mate.

“Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America,” Mr. Biden said Wednesday in Nashua, N.H. “Quite frankly it might have been a better pick than me.”

Earlier in the week, in Columbia, Mo., Mr. Biden urged a paraplegic state official to stand up to be recognized.

“Chuck, stand up, let the people see you,” Mr. Biden shouted to State Senator Chuck Graham, before realizing, to his horror, that Mr. Graham uses a wheelchair.

“Oh, God love ya,” Mr. Biden said. “What am I talking about?”

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 11 September 2008 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

lolz (altho I don't think the Hillary thing is bad, he's just showing some "humility" there)

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 11 September 2008 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link

HAHA - Charlie Gibson sounds as bored as Fred Thompson at the GOP debates.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 11 September 2008 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link

byroncrawford Clinton now helping Obama means Clinton knows Obama is gonna lose. about 1 hour ago from web

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 11 September 2008 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link

lolz Clinton "knows"

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 11 September 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Sarah Palin is ABRAHAM LINCOLN WITH LIPSTICK.

rogermexico., Thursday, 11 September 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

lol byroncrawford tweets

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 11 September 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

guys, O'Biden are waiting until after 911.com(TM) to start tearing shit up

gabbneb, Thursday, 11 September 2008 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I am really hoping the press and the Dems pick up this "let's go to war with Russia!" thing

x-post Gabbneb

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 11 September 2008 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Vlad the imPalin was probably backed into the "let's go to war with Russia!" thing by Matt Damon, etc. being all 'this is who we're gonna send up against Putin?!'

gabbneb, Thursday, 11 September 2008 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link

even so its a colossally stupid thing to say and I'm pretty sure the vast majority of the country is not itching to kick off a nuclear firefight over some country they've never heard of that didn't even exist 10 years ago.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 11 September 2008 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Gibson: Do you agree with the Bush Doctrine?
Palin: In what respect, Charlie?
Gibson: What do you interpret it to be?
Palin: His worldview?
Gibson: No, the Bush Doctrine. Enunciated September 2002, before the Iraq War.

Patrick Leahy, (D)-VT (deej), Friday, 12 September 2008 00:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Patrick Leahy, (D)-VT (deej), Friday, 12 September 2008 00:41 (fifteen years ago) link

ban deeznuts (cozwn), Friday, 12 September 2008 00:47 (fifteen years ago) link

obamunism (cozwn), Friday, 12 September 2008 00:58 (fifteen years ago) link

guys i know black frames with "YouTube" logo in bottom right corner are mysterious & intriguing but i am not going to click on all of them, context plz?

Doctor Casino, Friday, 12 September 2008 01:00 (fifteen years ago) link

apols

my top one is some weird AI-bot riff on the theme of obama as antichrist which is quite creepy

second one is a humorous sample of a news presenter talking mccain's 'religious nut eruption'

obamunism (cozwn), Friday, 12 September 2008 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link

deej's video is sarah palin being interviewed about her take on the bush doctrine

obamunism (cozwn), Friday, 12 September 2008 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link

re: "Not at Her Best" [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

And another e-mail: "Not at her best, huh? Let's see Obama, Biden or McCain do as well in a no subjects barred interview after Gibson had a week to prep. Did you see Obama get his head handed to him on a plate by O'Reilly? No comparison."

Patrick Leahy, (D)-VT (deej), Friday, 12 September 2008 01:19 (fifteen years ago) link

no comparison in the sense that one event is real, and the other, utterly fictitious?

(NB I only watched the first night of the Obama/O'Reilly thing)

it be me, me, me and timothy (bernard snowy), Friday, 12 September 2008 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, he came off condescending and asked questions of her no one ever thinks to ask The One, like how many countries he’d visited before becoming a senator. The exchanges were chopped to a fine mince too on the editing machine, which is why I didn’t include the bit where he asked her what insight Alaska’s proximity to Russia gives her into their actions and she said, “They’re our next-door neighbors. And you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.” Did she really give a non-answer that goofy or did they just smear her by editing it that way? I would have given them the benefit of the doubt earlier but not after botching the prayer quote.

That said, it’s pretty clear she doesn’t know what he means by the Bush Doctrine and can’t answer the Pakistan question in anything but platitudes about stopping Islamic extremism. Even the gimme about the 9/11 hijackers’ motivations comes out garbled: She’s trying to make the basic neocon point that terrorism is a problem caused by political repression and solved by democracy, but it sounds as if she’s trying to patch it together from mental index cards, which … may in fact be what she was doing. Or maybe she was just nervous. Or thrown by Gibson’s demeanor. Not good, whichever it is, but 99% of the people who love her won’t care and the 1% who do can probably be brought around with a good interview tomorrow and, especially, a good debate with Biden. Now, tell me how brilliant she was and how wrong I am.

it be me, me, me and timothy (bernard snowy), Friday, 12 September 2008 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link

i love the idea that gibson is the leftwing equivalent of o'reilly

Patrick Leahy, (D)-VT (deej), Friday, 12 September 2008 01:33 (fifteen years ago) link

hard-hitting, buffalo-style charlie gibson journalism

Doctor Casino, Friday, 12 September 2008 02:16 (fifteen years ago) link


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